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‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« on: September 04, 2023, 12:09:22 pm »
KTLA5 by Russell Falcon 9/2/2023

National Hispanic Heritage Month officially kicks off Sept. 15, marking the 35th year of the celebration of Hispanic cultures and their contributions to the U.S. As Hispanic people continue being one of the U.S.’ most visible communities, many questions about terminology arise.

The current most common ways Hispanic populations refer to themselves are “Hispanic,” “Latino/Latina” and “Chicano,” but the newer gender-neutral term “Latinx” attempts to be more inclusive to non-binary members of the population.

“Non-binary” means those who don’t identify as male or female: These are people who have a gender that blends elements of either, or people have a gender that is neither male or female. Additionally, as the National Center for Transgender Equality says, some people don’t identify with any gender and some people’s gender identity changes over time.

But although it may have good intentions, the term has yet to be integrated by most Hispanic people, data shows. And while some people’s reasonings for disliking the term may well be rooted in transphobia, for others, the issue is the word itself.

Naysayers call the term a form of “neocolonialism,” or a way for non-Hispanic progressives to control what Latin people call themselves — in other words, a “white people thing.”

“This is a blatant form of linguistic imperialism — the forcing of U.S. ideals upon a language in a way that does not grammatically or orally correspond with it,” say authors of a notable Swarthmore College essay titled “The argument against the use of the term ‘Latinx.'”

Authors Gilbert Guerra and Gilbert Orbea — who are not opposed to non-binary language, they say — continue: “It seems that U.S. English speakers came upon Spanish, deemed it too backwards compared to their own progressive leanings, and rather than working within the language to address any of their concerns, ‘fixed’ it from a foreign perspective that has already had too much influence on Latino and Latin American culture.”

More: https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/latinx-why-do-many-hispanics-hate-the-term/

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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2023, 12:58:55 pm »
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But although it may have good intentions, the term has yet to be integrated by most Hispanic people, data shows. And while some people’s reasonings for disliking the term may well be rooted in transphobia, for others, the issue is the word itself.
Who said good intentions were behind it? I don't think so. And it has nothing to do with "transphobia" - is that even a real thing? - but the fact that it's stupid and invented and meaningless. We already have words to describe our particular ethnic backgrounds. We don't need new idiotic ones.
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2023, 04:18:14 pm »
Who said good intentions were behind it? I don't think so. And it has nothing to do with "transphobia" - is that even a real thing? - but the fact that it's stupid and invented and meaningless. We already have words to describe our particular ethnic backgrounds. We don't need new idiotic ones.

These are people who think "Xe" and "Xem" are reasonable pronouns....
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2023, 09:30:39 pm »
I can see a segment of the population pronouncing that as "La Tinks"
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2023, 09:35:38 pm »
I can see a segment of the population pronouncing that as "La Tinks"

Did somebody call me over here?  :cool:

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2023, 10:23:05 pm »
Did somebody call me over here?  :cool:
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2023, 11:58:17 pm »
Ok,someone needs to explain to me WHY they need a new name.

I honestly don't understand what was wrong with the "Hispanic" identifier? It covers them all,regardless of skin tone or gender,right?
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2023, 01:38:46 am »
Have you guys got a lot of smoke today? It's thick here.

Nope. Clear as a bell coming at you if the flow comes normal.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2023, 03:08:21 am »
Nope. Clear as a bell coming at you if the flow comes normal.
Wind is from the north, not the west...
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Re: ‘Latinx’: Why do many Hispanics hate the term?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2023, 05:02:16 am »
Wind is from the north, not the west...

Nuts.  :shrug:

 Must be the hump keeping it off of us... Like I said more than once, we're tied harder to the PacNW than the rest of the continent because of the divide.

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2023, 07:12:37 am »
Nuts.  :shrug:

 Must be the hump keeping it off of us... Like I said more than once, we're tied harder to the PacNW than the rest of the continent because of the divide.
Different wind pattern.
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