The Major asserts:
"To have a real civil war, you need to have clear leadership, ideas, and goals on the group that starts it. That doesn't exist."
How did such leaders, ideas, and goals arise and coalesce "the first time around"?
Did not much (most) of that come from the "Continental Congress" (both first and second) that the Colonists convened?
Yes,
exactly. So what you'd need to have happen is for the state legislators in those states to vote for some form of Continental Congress to discuss secession/civil war.
So... one more time (even twice in the same thread) I'm going to ask:
Is it time yet to convene a NEW "Heartland Continental Congress"?
Well, the first time you asked it you directed towards two specific posters, so I respected that and didn't answer that. My answer would be "No, of course it isn't time. What are ya, nuts?"
I assume you disagree, in which case I'd ask why don't you tweet out your decision to call one, and see how many states vote for what you're advocating. My guess is that it would be a big fat zero. Which is exactly why I would say now is not the time - because
there isn't anything close to the level of support necessary to succeed.
We have to be realistic about where the sentiment in the country currently lies, what actions would have support, and which ones wouldn't. Personally, I still think we're in a place where most citizens believe elections are still winnable. Until that changes, calls for more radical actions have zero chance of success.