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The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy
« on: August 24, 2023, 02:30:07 pm »
The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy

By Joe Cunningham
August 24, 2023

So, last night's debate had a lot of fairly memorable moments. It was the type of debate that we really needed. We needed to see a lot of the candidates on policy. We really needed to see a lot of the candidates being able to take each other on and we saw that and I think it was good for the overall debate on the nomination process. But it’s hard to talk about last night without talking about Vivek Ramaswamy.

Ramaswamy is a curious candidate. With no political experience whatsoever, Ramaswamy showed up with a lot of buzzwords, a lot of references to revolution and war (metaphorical ones, at least), and this desire to attack everybody else with little regard for the debate structure or how well it came across.

Overall, I don’t think he came out looking strong from it. He’s certainly overshadowed a lot of people, but he didn’t really prove himself to be a presidential candidate. Instead, he proved himself to be an annoying millennial on the stage who thinks he knows better than everybody else.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/08/24/so-why-is-everyone-piling-on-vivek-ramaswamy-n2162985

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Re: The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2023, 03:09:10 pm »


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Ramaswamy company pitched governments on effort to install universal covid patient records surveillance database
Datavant sought to create a universal database for governments that displays "every patient who has been tested for Covid-19."
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Before rebranding as a warrior for free speech and a passionate crusader for privacy rights, newly announced presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy was pitching the U.S. and world governments on his efforts to install a broad, centralized database of private medical records.

In a pursuit forged through one of his subsidiary companies, a “health information” data mining outfit called Datavant, Ramaswamy’s outfit pursued the establishment of a single national and global database for all covid-related patient health records. ...

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2023, 03:19:26 pm »
The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy

By Joe Cunningham
August 24, 2023

So, last night's debate had a lot of fairly memorable moments. It was the type of debate that we really needed. We needed to see a lot of the candidates on policy. We really needed to see a lot of the candidates being able to take each other on and we saw that and I think it was good for the overall debate on the nomination process. But it’s hard to talk about last night without talking about Vivek Ramaswamy.

Ramaswamy is a curious candidate. With no political experience whatsoever, Ramaswamy showed up with a lot of buzzwords, a lot of references to revolution and war (metaphorical ones, at least), and this desire to attack everybody else with little regard for the debate structure or how well it came across.

Overall, I don’t think he came out looking strong from it. He’s certainly overshadowed a lot of people, but he didn’t really prove himself to be a presidential candidate. Instead, he proved himself to be an annoying millennial on the stage who thinks he knows better than everybody else.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/08/24/so-why-is-everyone-piling-on-vivek-ramaswamy-n2162985

That's what really makes nervous about this guy.  When I listen to him talk military/foreign policy, I feel like I'm listening to a high school AP government student who believes he has all the answers, and doesn't have a clue that his theories bear no relation to the real world.

I don't have a problem with people who lack knowledge/experience but who recognize they lack it and therefore are open-minded/willing to learn.  Ramaswamy is the kind of know it all who ends up doing really stupid things.

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2023, 03:20:23 pm »
Someone compared Vivek to the kid who reminds the teacher on Friday afternoon that she hasn't yet assigned homework.

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2023, 03:21:53 pm »
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Yo, dog - I’m Vivek, you might know me by my stage name, the Conservative ChatGPT. I took a Soros scholarship to put me through law school even though I didn’t need the money, I got rich off scammy pharmaceuticals that didn’t work, I was parroting leftist talking points 5 mins ago but now think I’m the Hindu Ben Shapiro, I don’t even know if I’m a registered Republican or not, records show I was an independent in Ohio in 2021, I said I never cared about civics until 2020 but records show I’ve donated to both Republicans and Democrats (you’ll have to research yourself to see when I last gave money to the Left, it might surprise you), but good luck finding any info on me because I paid to have my background wiped.

Got ‘em! Lol! (insert cheesy pyramid scheme smile) I never cared enough about the country to even vote until 2020 but my competitors are all fake patriots. I’m a billionaire and people who aren’t rich are beneath me, they’re bought and paid for because they need to accept donor money to pay for their campaigns, loser poor people just suck! lol!

 Have you seen how good I hit tennis balls with shirt off? Im here to get the youth vote by rapping at odd moments and going on the cool podcasts, but I also want to ban the youth from voting until they’re 25, unless they take a test, because depriving citizens of their Constitutional Rights is based AF and super American.

As a Hindu, I’m a better Christian than most Christians, my Judeo-Christian values are fire, yours are trash. Did I mention Trump is the best President of the 21st century? He’s so good in fact, that I decided to run and try to beat him. Obama was such a chump, but his speeches were crunk so I might have stolen a few of his greatest lines, I doubt anyone will notice. What time is my Candace interview?
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2023, 03:22:17 pm »
Someone compared Vivek to the kid who reminds the teacher on Friday afternoon that she hasn't yet assigned homework.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2023, 03:24:12 pm »
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Yo, dog - I’m Vivek, you might know me by my stage name, the Conservative ChatGPT. I took a Soros scholarship to put me through law school even though I didn’t need the money, I got rich off scammy pharmaceuticals that didn’t work, I was parroting leftist talking points 5 mins ago but now think I’m the Hindu Ben Shapiro, I don’t even know if I’m a registered Republican or not, records show I was an independent in Ohio in 2021, I said I never cared about civics until 2020 but records show I’ve donated to both Republicans and Democrats (you’ll have to research yourself to see when I last gave money to the Left, it might surprise you), but good luck finding any info on me because I paid to have my background wiped.

Got ‘em! Lol! (insert cheesy pyramid scheme smile) I never cared enough about the country to even vote until 2020 but my competitors are all fake patriots. I’m a billionaire and people who aren’t rich are beneath me, they’re bought and paid for because they need to accept donor money to pay for their campaigns, loser poor people just suck! lol!

 Have you seen how good I hit tennis balls with shirt off? Im here to get the youth vote by rapping at odd moments and going on the cool podcasts, but I also want to ban the youth from voting until they’re 25, unless they take a test, because depriving citizens of their Constitutional Rights is based AF and super American.

As a Hindu, I’m a better Christian than most Christians, my Judeo-Christian values are fire, yours are trash. Did I mention Trump is the best President of the 21st century? He’s so good in fact, that I decided to run and try to beat him. Obama was such a chump, but his speeches were crunk so I might have stolen a few of his greatest lines, I doubt anyone will notice. What time is my Candace interview?
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And beside all that, he is not a NBC and thus disqualified!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2023, 03:39:09 pm »
That's what really makes nervous about this guy.  When I listen to him talk military/foreign policy, I feel like I'm listening to a high school AP government student who believes he has all the answers, and doesn't have a clue that his theories bear no relation to the real world.

I don't have a problem with people who lack knowledge/experience but who recognize they lack it and therefore are open-minded/willing to learn.  Ramaswamy is the kind of know it all who ends up doing really stupid things.
So you're saying Vivek is just like another billionaire who is seeking(again) the GOP nomination? :whistle:

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2023, 03:40:08 pm »
So you're saying Vivek is just like another billionaire who is seeking(again) the GOP nomination? :whistle:

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2023, 03:41:23 pm »
Josh Power 🇺🇸
@JoshPower80
Yo, dog - I’m Vivek, you might know me by my stage name, the Conservative ChatGPT. I took a Soros scholarship to put me through law school even though I didn’t need the money, I got rich off scammy pharmaceuticals that didn’t work, I was parroting leftist talking points 5 mins ago but now think I’m the Hindu Ben Shapiro, I don’t even know if I’m a registered Republican or not, records show I was an independent in Ohio in 2021, I said I never cared about civics until 2020 but records show I’ve donated to both Republicans and Democrats (you’ll have to research yourself to see when I last gave money to the Left, it might surprise you), but good luck finding any info on me because I paid to have my background wiped.

Got ‘em! Lol! (insert cheesy pyramid scheme smile) I never cared enough about the country to even vote until 2020 but my competitors are all fake patriots. I’m a billionaire and people who aren’t rich are beneath me, they’re bought and paid for because they need to accept donor money to pay for their campaigns, loser poor people just suck! lol!

 Have you seen how good I hit tennis balls with shirt off? Im here to get the youth vote by rapping at odd moments and going on the cool podcasts, but I also want to ban the youth from voting until they’re 25, unless they take a test, because depriving citizens of their Constitutional Rights is based AF and super American.

As a Hindu, I’m a better Christian than most Christians, my Judeo-Christian values are fire, yours are trash. Did I mention Trump is the best President of the 21st century? He’s so good in fact, that I decided to run and try to beat him. Obama was such a chump, but his speeches were crunk so I might have stolen a few of his greatest lines, I doubt anyone will notice. What time is my Candace interview?
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This is really well done, and I think the reason his numbers won't last as the debates wear on.   Because the longer they go on, the more time the completely un-vetted guy will be openly vetted in front of audiences, and it won't be pretty.

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Re: The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2023, 03:42:24 pm »
So you're saying Vivek is just like another billionaire who is seeking(again) the GOP nomination? :whistle:

Gee, I wonder who that might be .....  :whistle:

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2023, 03:44:29 pm »
Vivek is Obama 2.0  Mark my words should he unfortunately become the nominee and make it to the WH, God forbid.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2023, 03:47:00 pm »
Vivek is Obama 2.0  Mark my words should he unfortunately become the nominee and make it to the WH, God forbid.

You could easily be right.  He's a guy glib enough to say one thing, then do the complete opposite. 

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2023, 03:53:32 pm »
Vivek is a vulture. 'Nuff said.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2023, 03:54:05 pm »
He's a Trojan Horse just like Tumpy, trying to inliltrate the Conservative Fort.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2023, 05:39:21 pm »
There has been something about him that made me so suspicious of him, but I just couldn't put my finger on it until last night. It hit me that he reminds me of someone that I used to work with. This guy knew all of the right buzz words and how to butter up people and tell them what they wanted to hear. It helped him to rise in the ranks even though he had no major accomplishments. He just wasn't genuine. Twice I took him to visit customers and both times he made promises that weren't possible, leaving me to pick up the pieces. So Vivek reminds me of this a$$ kisser.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2023, 05:49:18 pm »
Vivek is a vulture. 'Nuff said.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2023, 05:54:03 pm »
He hit the mark on de-carbonization Communist plot.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2023, 05:59:54 pm »
He hit the mark on de-carbonization Communist plot.

:yowsa: Like many others he TALKS a good game.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2023, 06:22:18 pm »
There has been something about him that made me so suspicious of him, but I just couldn't put my finger on it until last night. It hit me that he reminds me of someone that I used to work with. This guy knew all of the right buzz words and how to butter up people and tell them what they wanted to hear. It helped him to rise in the ranks even though he had no major accomplishments. He just wasn't genuine. Twice I took him to visit customers and both times he made promises that weren't possible, leaving me to pick up the pieces. So Vivek reminds me of this a$$ kisser.

The fact that the guy has only voted twice speaks volumes about his lack of a reliable set of political principles.  He's also said and written things over the years that are very inconsistent with conservative or even GOP values.  He's a chameleon.

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2023, 07:20:52 pm »
There has been something about him that made me so suspicious of him, but I just couldn't put my finger on it until last night. It hit me that he reminds me of someone that I used to work with. This guy knew all of the right buzz words and how to butter up people and tell them what they wanted to hear. It helped him to rise in the ranks even though he had no major accomplishments. He just wasn't genuine. Twice I took him to visit customers and both times he made promises that weren't possible, leaving me to pick up the pieces. So Vivek reminds me of this a$$ kisser.

In other words, just like Trump.

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2023, 08:14:25 pm »
Someone compared Vivek to the kid who reminds the teacher on Friday afternoon that she hasn't yet assigned homework.

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2023, 08:17:41 pm »
He's a Trojan Horse just like Tumpy, trying to inliltrate the Conservative Fort.

Maybe someday you guys will let voters infiltrate your fort.   :laugh:

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2023, 10:11:53 pm »
The fact that the guy has only voted twice speaks volumes about his lack of a reliable set of political principles.  He's also said and written things over the years that are very inconsistent with conservative or even GOP values.  He's a chameleon.


 :beer:  I will add, obnoxious.