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Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« on: August 21, 2023, 01:00:56 pm »
Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field: poll

By Yaron Steinbuch
August 21, 2023

Former President Donald Trump holds an overwhelming lead of more than 2-to-1 over his nearest rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, in the 2024 presidential race among likely Iowa Republican caucusgoers, according to a new poll.

Trump is the first choice of 42% of the likely caucusgoers out of 14 GOP candidates, while 19% picked DeSantis with about five months to Caucus Day, the first 2024 NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll found.

They’re followed by Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, at 9%; former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley and former Vice President Mike Pence, both at 6%; former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 5%; and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%.

But the poll results also show DeSantis has a lane in Iowa, where his total “footprint” is 2 percentage points behind Trump: 61% to 63%, the Des Moines Register pointed out.

The footprint is measured by adding together those who say a candidate is their first choice, those who say the candidate is their second choice and those who are actively considering supporting the candidate.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/trump-has-23-point-lead-over-desantis-in-first-test-of-gop-caucus-field-poll/
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2023, 02:04:59 pm »
Still not a majority, a majority wants someone other than Trump.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2023, 02:10:32 pm »
But the noise machine tells me Ramaswamy has soared to second...
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2023, 07:26:41 pm »
"Why aren't I 50 points ahead?"

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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2023, 07:29:27 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 21, 2023, 07:26:41 pm
"Why aren't I 50 points ahead?"



I saw a video with that. Made me chuckle.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2023, 07:32:42 pm »
DeSantis is not a Hillary Clinton

And he didn’t donate to her foundation or claim at one time she would make a fine president at least that I’m not aware of
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2023, 10:03:44 pm »
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2023, 10:07:11 pm »
Polls. :rolling:   
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2023, 10:20:33 pm »
Yeah, that may be speculated lead at this point, but ouside the hard core MAGATS, that lead is so soft that Viagra wouldn't help it. 
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2023, 03:14:03 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 21, 2023, 10:03:44 pm

This you?

This    is a globally-recognizable picture photoshopped into a meme.

The DeSantis team created an AI generated "photo", inserted it into a campaign attack ad against Trump and presented the "photo" as real.

Learn the difference @jmyrlefuller  ---- it matters.

Other examples of a photoshopped meme for reference:



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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2023, 03:23:32 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 22, 2023, 03:14:03 am
This    is a globally-recognizable picture photoshopped into a meme.

The DeSantis team created an AI generated "photo", inserted it into a campaign attack ad against Trump and presented the "photo" as real.

Learn the difference @jmyrlefuller  ---- it matters.

Other examples of a photoshopped meme for reference:





Seriously?

You don’t get sarcastic drollness?

He knows what it was.  You didn’t have to explain it all for anyone.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2023, 03:35:25 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 22, 2023, 03:14:03 am
This    is a globally-recognizable picture photoshopped into a meme.

The DeSantis team created an AI generated "photo", inserted it into a campaign attack ad against Trump and presented the "photo" as real.

Learn the difference @jmyrlefuller  ---- it matters.

Other examples of a photoshopped meme for reference:




Yeah. I get the difference. It's only OK when YOU or your side does it.

Buzz off, hypocrite.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2023, 03:54:52 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 22, 2023, 03:35:25 am
Yeah. I get the difference. It's only OK when YOU or your side does it.

Buzz off, hypocrite.

Apparently, you still don't get the difference between presenting an AI generated creation as a genuine photo ----- and a meme photoshopped from an actual globally-recognizable photo.

I repeat:  It's important to understand the difference because it truly matters @jmyrlefuller   Here's a hint to help you discern the difference:  When you view a meme, you simultaneously know the original photo  ---- with AI the photo *is* the original, and a fake.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2023, 03:58:01 am »
Quote from: the OlLine Rebel on August 22, 2023, 03:23:32 am
Seriously?

You don’t get sarcastic drollness?

He knows what it was.  You didn’t have to explain it all for anyone.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this.  His reply should explain why @the OlLine Rebel
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2023, 04:03:27 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 22, 2023, 03:14:03 am
This is a globally-recognizable picture photoshopped into a meme.

The DeSantis team created an AI generated "photo", inserted it into a campaign attack ad against Trump and presented the "photo" as real.

So you're criticizing DeSantis for doing what Trump has been doing for months?  Your hypocrisy never ceases.



Trump Inexplicably Posts AI-Generated Photo of Himself Praying

Alec Karam  |  Mar. 23, 2023 4:38PM EDT



Don’t be fooled by increasingly realistic AI renderings—especially if they’re posted by Donald Trump. The former president took to his social media site Truth Social to post a fake image of himself praying, reportedly generated by artificial intelligence.  .  .  .


https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1638969629409431552

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-inexplicably-posts-ai-pic-of-himself-praying
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2023, 04:10:22 am »
Donald Trump Pokes Fun At Ron DeSantis And Elon Musk With Photoshopped Image

Matt Novak  |  Jun 1, 2023,02:20am EDT

Donald Trump ridiculed his rival for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination on Truth Social during the early morning hours of Thursday, publishing an image with the words “Failure to Launch,” next to Ron DeSantis. And while it’s entirely expected that Trump would go after DeSantis, considering the Florida governor recently announced his desire to become the Republican nominee for president, the image also has a second high-profile figure that everyone will recognize. Yes, that’s Elon Musk, who helped DeSantis launch his campaign last week with an announcement on Twitter Spaces.

Trump shared the image shortly after 1 a.m. ET. It includes both DeSantis and Musk looking rather somber. A rocket emblazoned with the year 2024 sits in a crumpled mess behind the two men, who both look like they’re on the verge of tears.  .  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/06/01/donald-trump-pokes-fun-at-ron-desantis-and-elon-musk-with-photoshopped-image/



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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2023, 04:13:52 am »
@Right_in_Virginia will be chiming in to condemn Trump for using photoshopped images in five . . . four . . .  three . . . .  two . . .

Oh, wait, that's not gonna happen.  Because it takes integrity to hold Trump to the same standard as the opponents he criticizes.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2023, 04:14:45 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 22, 2023, 04:03:27 am
So you're criticizing DeSantis for doing what Trump has been doing for months? 

Good to see you agree with me ----- there is a difference between a meme and an AI generated image.  Stay aware now ---- especially in opposition campaign ads.

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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2023, 04:16:01 am »
Like I said.  It takes integrity.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2023, 04:49:55 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 22, 2023, 04:10:22 am
Donald Trump Pokes Fun At Ron DeSantis And Elon Musk With Photoshopped Image

Matt Novak  |  Jun 1, 2023,02:20am EDT

Donald Trump ridiculed his rival for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination on Truth Social during the early morning hours of Thursday, publishing an image with the words “Failure to Launch,”

A photoshop of a globally-recognized movie/poster is a meme and perfectly okay ---- only an idiot would mistake it for an original.

Remember the hint:  Everyone simultaneously knew the original when viewing the meme ---- making the meme effective, memorable and damn funny. :laugh:  (Methinks this is what really upsets you with this one)

There were LOTS of these memes at the time, even a contest------that went on for days ----- (sorry, but it did and was LOL funny)







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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2023, 05:39:06 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 22, 2023, 04:13:52 am
@Right_in_Virginia will be chiming in to condemn Trump for using photoshopped images in five . . . four . . .  three . . . .  two . . .

Oh, wait, that's not gonna happen.  Because it takes integrity to hold Trump to the same standard as the opponents he criticizes.

:thumbsup:

Remember when Trump about 8 years ago posted the fake picture of Jeb picking his nose... not one Trump fan seemed to care. Trump gripped about a Jeb Bush photo that Trump said was photoshopped, well it was somewhat, but not like Trump suggested (said Jeb had a "black hand")... It was just a photo carved out of of Jeb smiling and standing next to an older lady that shaded Jeb's left hand and made it look darker.

BTW... a lot of photos in ads show a fit trim Trump instead of someone pushing 280lbs or such. Some here on TBR have made light of DeSantis's height... a few of us have made fun of Trump having a hissy fit over his hand size...

Honestly I could for the most part care less what height/hand-size/weight or what a trophy wife's looks like. Just give me a good Bible God Fearing Real Conservative that looks like road kill and I will vote for them.

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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2023, 10:57:30 am »
Hypocrisy just seems to go with politics


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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2023, 01:52:57 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 22, 2023, 04:03:27 am
So you're criticizing DeSantis for doing what Trump has been doing for months?  Your hypocrisy never ceases.



Trump Inexplicably Posts AI-Generated Photo of Himself Praying

Alec Karam  |  Mar. 23, 2023 4:38PM EDT



Don’t be fooled by increasingly realistic AI renderings—especially if they’re posted by Donald Trump. The former president took to his social media site Truth Social to post a fake image of himself praying, reportedly generated by artificial intelligence.  .  .  .


https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1638969629409431552

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-inexplicably-posts-ai-pic-of-himself-praying

Yeah, that’s full of garbage.

Trump is about as religious as his pal Snoop Doggie Dog.

Never have I ever had the impression Trump gave a darn about church or religiosity.  Glad to have prayers, sure, but not doing it himself.

The worst for me was when he tried that 2- second photo op at the (apostate) historic Episcopalian church that had been burned slightly outside the WH.  He didn’t even make much an attempt to look like a serious photo op.
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Re: Poll: Trump has 23-point lead over DeSantis in first test of GOP caucus field
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2023, 02:10:52 pm »
   After a rough night of explaining the morality of Trump's latest antics.



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