DeSantis Makes 'Listless Vessels' Comment That Sends Team Trump Into Orbit

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@libertybele

Thanks!

Today is a little better than yesterday. Actually made it down to the shopping center to feed the stray cats today. My ex has been doing this for me for the last week or so.

Been sleeping like a clubbed baby seal.

Go to see my regular heart doc on Tuesday,IIRC. Was seeing him a long time before the heart attack last week.

 

[sneakypete]

How is that different from DeSantis?  Granted, Cruz has been a politician for longer than has DeSantis, but you seem to consider that a negative rather than a positive.

@Maj. Bill Martin

Cruz isn't whiny little bitch looking for attention.

It's Trump.  Cruz obviously wouldn't want to put himself and his wife/family through the public insults and degradation they had to endure from Trump in the 2016 campaign.

Yeah,causen Cruz is such a delicate little flower,and afraid of conflict,right?

Now,Cruz MIGHT not be running because he thinks Trump has it sewn up and it would be a waste of his time and money,but it damn sure doesn't have anything to do with not being able to handle the heat,and to deal it out if neccessary.

I understand that you like Cruz - I do as well and voted for him in the 2016 primaries.  But what I don't quite understand is that he is everything that you hate and compln about here as being the worst people to have in government: he is an Ivy League lawyer and a (mostly) career politician/political appointee.


AND???????? Does everyone fit into the same box with you? Ted Cruz is a VERY competent and VERY smart career politician,and we need a few like him to help keep the slackers in line.

I also have no doubt his prime goal as a career politician is to serve America,NOT himself. Anybody that thinks he is too stupid to earn big-bucks outside of the Senate just hasn't been paying attention.


 If DeSantis is "the same old thing", then Cruz is even more so.

HorseHillary! You are not THAT freaking stoopid as to actually believe that. You  are just trying to "score points for the home team".

 

In terms of policies they've supported, neither is more or less conservative than the other.

Opinions are like Democrats,and that one is yours. I will ask you "How many political U-Turns has Cruz made?"

So I don't quite get the hatred towards the one, but an acknowledgement that he'd be a good President to the other

That's because you don't mind supporting a backstabbing little bitch.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Justin Hart
@justin_hart

MAGA: “That’s insulting. We don’t sit around waiting to follow Truth Social posts!”

Also Maga:

So, you're now agreeing Ronny was intentionally insulting Trump's supporters ---- ending all hopes of ever going to the Oval Office as other than a busboy?

(Just trying to keep up with the spin  )

@mountaineer

[mountaineer]

So, you're now agreeing Ronny was intentionally insulting Trump's supporters ---- ending all hopes of ever going to the Oval Office as other than a busboy?

(Just trying to keep up with the spin  )

No, I'm not. Perhaps you should try to keep up.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Thanks!

Today is a little better than yesterday. Actually made it down to the shopping center to feed the stray cats today. My ex has been doing this for me for the last week or so.

Been sleeping like a clubbed baby seal.

Go to see my regular heart doc on Tuesday,IIRC. Was seeing him a long time before the heart attack last week.

Good @sneakypete -- one day at a time and a little better each day here and there.  Eventually you'll build your strength back up.  Sleep is needed to heal.  I hope your doc appt. goes well. 

[mountaineer]

Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Trump supporters are never going to vote for DeSantis even if he wins the primary. DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump if he wins the primary. What now?
8:53 AM · Aug 20, 2023

Posted as food for thought. Not an endorsement.

[LMAO]

Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Trump supporters are never going to vote for DeSantis even if he wins the primary. DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump if he wins the primary. What now?
8:53 AM · Aug 20, 2023

House and Senate races

[Hoodat]

Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Trump supporters are never going to vote for DeSantis even if he wins the primary. DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump if he wins the primary. What now?
8:53 AM · Aug 20, 2023

It's not that DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump.  It's that Conservatives are never going to vote for a Democrat.

[roamer_1]

Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Trump supporters are never going to vote for DeSantis even if he wins the primary. DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump if he wins the primary. What now?
8:53 AM · Aug 20, 2023

TRUE. And the basis for my thought that Tumpy will win the primary, but lose the general.
And I am already ready for four more years of liberals in fire hose mode.

Until all y'all are ready to come together under Conservative principles and fight together, there will be nothing.

Right now, that's Desantis. And nothing else will do.

[Kamaji]

It's not that DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump.  It's that Conservatives are never going to vote for a Democrat.

If that's the case, then we can thank Trump and his worshippers for the divide.  I have seen plenty more Trump true believers say they will never vote for anyone else than I have seen DeSantis supporters refusing to vote for anyone else.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@Maj. Bill Martin

Now,Cruz MIGHT not be running because he thinks Trump has it sewn up and it would be a waste of his time and money,but it damn sure doesn't have anything to do with not being able to handle the heat,and to deal it out if neccessary.

I'm quite sure Cruz is more than capable of handling anything directed at him personally. It's the insults calling his wife fat and his father involved in JFK's murder that I don't think he cares to relive.

AND???????? Does everyone fit into the same box with you? Ted Cruz is a VERY competent and VERY smart career politician,and we need a few like him to help keep the slackers in line.

No, but then I'm not the one who has previously made blanket condemnations of Ivy League lawyers.   Some are horrible, some art.  Which is why I don't think it's a relevant reason to slam someone.  And just for the record, I didn't go to an Ivy League school.

I also have no doubt his prime goal as a career politician is to serve America,NOT himself. Anybody that thinks he is too stupid to earn big-bucks outside of the Senate just hasn't been paying attention.

True..and equally true of DeSantis.  DeSantis is a self-made guy who earned his way into Yale, just as Cruz earned his way into Harvard.  No legacy, no affirmative action, just brains.  DeSantis could, just like Cruz, have earned mega-big bucks outside of politics.  Heck, as a first year associate at a major firm, with his pedigree, he'd have earned more than he makes now, 20 years later, as Governor of Florida.

Neither one of them chose the career path of an Ivy League lawyer motivated primarily by money.  They are both conservative to the core and believe in what they are doing.

Literally your only gripe with DeSantis is that he has the temerity to be one of 8 or so challenging Trump for the nomination.

[Hoodat]

If that's the case, then we can thank Trump and his worshippers for the divide.  I have seen plenty more Trump true believers say they will never vote for anyone else than I have seen DeSantis supporters refusing to vote for anyone else.

You got that right.  I don't know how many times I've heard Trump zealots exclaim how they didn't need me or my vote.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

House and Senate races

 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

If that's the case, then we can thank Trump and his worshippers for the divide.  I have seen plenty more Trump true believers say they will never vote for anyone else than I have seen DeSantis supporters refusing to vote for anyone else.

Maybe there are some out there, but I literally haven't heard a single DeSantis supporter say they won't vote for anyone but him.   Even the ones like me who won't vote for Trump would still vote for just about any of the other GOP candidates.

Except perhaps Ramaswamy.

[berdie]

For those on such a ship, does the destination really matter? Just ride the next current that takes the ship wherever it happens to lead. Perhaps being on the ship is the point, not the destination?

Well said. I really believe that's it in a well worded post.

[sneakypete]

Good @sneakypete -- one day at a time and a little better each day here and there.  Eventually you'll build your strength back up.  Sleep is needed to heal.  I hope your doc appt. goes well.

@libertybele

Thanks!

[sneakypete]

Posted as food for thought. Not an endorsement.

@mountaineer

What will be,will be.

[sneakypete]

It's not that DeSantis supporters are never going to vote for Trump.  It's that Conservatives are never going to vote for a Democrat.

@Hoodat


Really?

Ever heard the name "Bush" before this?

[sneakypete]

I'm quite sure Cruz is more than capable of handling anything directed at him personally. It's the insults calling his wife fat and his father involved in JFK's murder that I don't think he cares to relive.


No, but then I'm not the one who has previously made blanket condemnations of Ivy League lawyers.

@Maj. Bill Martin


And WHO would that be?

 

True..and equally true of DeSantis.  DeSantis is a self-made guy who earned his way into Yale, just as Cruz earned his way into Harvard.  No legacy, no affirmative action, just brains.  DeSantis could, just like Cruz, have earned mega-big bucks outside of politics.  Heck, as a first year associate at a major firm, with his pedigree, he'd have earned more than he makes now, 20 years later, as Governor of Florida.

Neither one of them chose the career path of an Ivy League lawyer motivated primarily by money.  They are both conservative to the core and believe in what they are doing.

Literally your only gripe with DeSantis is that he has the temerity to be one of 8 or so challenging Trump for the nomination.

Close,but  no cigar. He stabbed Trump in the back after Trump campaigned for him and got him the nomination. If he will do that to the guy that saved his political career,he will do it to every single one of us,given the chance.

A backstabbing weasel is a backstabbing weasel,and since he has stabbed Trump in the back,he has proven himself to be a universal weasel capable of telling any lie and stabbing any back.

Or are you drawn in by his "smile and laughter"?

[Hoodat]

Close,but  no cigar. He stabbed Trump in the back after Trump campaigned for him and got him the nomination. If he will do that to the guy that saved his political career,he will do it to every single one of us,given the chance.

A backstabbing weasel is a backstabbing weasel,and since he has stabbed Trump in the back .  .  .

You have been making this claim for months now.  Yet each and every time you have been challenged to point out how Trump's back was stabbed, you come up empty.  Doesn't it bother you that you have no idea whether or not this is true, yet you keep saying it?  Why do you think that is?  Are you simply repeating what you heard someone else say with no clue what it actually means?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Posted as food for thought. Not an endorsement.

Quoting me twice in one post.  You flatter me @mountaineer   

[Hoodat]

Kamala gets quoted a lot, too.  You are in good company.

[Kamaji]

"Stabbed in the back" - the same scurrilous excuse made by Democrats and Nazis.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Maybe there are some out there, but I literally haven't heard a single DeSantis supporter say they won't vote for anyone but him.

If "out there" includes only TBR, you're missing a significant percent of RDS supporters who feel this way.  You're right they don't say "I won't vote for anyone but DeSantis" ---- they come from the other corner with the assurance they will never vote for Trump.

[bigheadfred]

"Stabbed in the back" - the same scurrilous excuse made by Democrats and Nazis.

It is too early in this thread to go Godwin.