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Trump plunges to 35% favorable rating in dire new poll that says 53% back indictments

Former President Donald Trump’s popularity is plunging as his legal troubles mount.

Just 35% of Americans have a favorable view of Trump compared to 62% who view him unfavorably, according to an Associated Press-NORC poll released Wednesday.

The survey, which was conducted from last Friday to Monday, also found that 53% of all voters say they definitely wouldn’t vote for Trump for president in 2024.

Another 11% said they probably wouldn’t support his White House comeback bid.

The lackluster numbers for Trump extend to opinions about the efforts to prosecute him for trying to overturn his loss in the 2020 election.

Some 53% of those surveyed approve of the U.S. Department of Justice indicting Trump for his alleged scheme to stay in power illegally, compared to just 30% who disapprove.

The poll was taken after Trump’s indictment on the federal Jan. 6 probe but before he was charged late Monday with racketeering in Georgia.

The survey reveals a stark divide between Democrats and independent voters on the one hand and Republicans on the other. Some 86% of Democrats back the indictments compared to just 16% of Republicans.............

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-plunges-35-favorable-rating-192900652.html
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I know of only one poster here who cares about polls. 



     (But not this one)
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I know of only one poster here who cares about polls. 



     (But not this one)

Polls are polls and not reliable -- however, polls are still being posted in here.  I ran across this one and posted it for what it's worth.
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Polls do have worth.  Not as propaganda tools, but they do provide useful information.  In this case, a 62% unfavorable rating spells a certainty for defeat in November.  If RNC delegates choose Trump as their candidate, it will mean another four years of Biden.  And either way, it will be four more years of a Democrat in the White House.  Not since FDR-Truman has a Democrat controlled the White house for 20 consecutive years.

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He should step down and fight this court crap out (like Delay did, same thing), rather than running and endangering the election. If he's convicted next late summer (which is when it will happen), and he goes down, that leaves Republicans in a trick bag, with mere months to try to fire up a replacement candidate.

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He should step down and fight this court crap out (like Delay did, same thing), rather than running and endangering the election. If he's convicted next late summer (which is when it will happen), and he goes down, that leaves Republicans in a trick bag, with mere months to try to fire up a replacement candidate.

I agree with you but Trump only cares about keeping himself in the spotlight.  He enjoys the attention be it positive or negative.
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He should step down and fight this court crap out (like Delay did, same thing), rather than running and endangering the election. If he's convicted next late summer (which is when it will happen), and he goes down, that leaves Republicans in a trick bag, with mere months to try to fire up a replacement candidate.

Yeah, he could not care less.  The only way to get the marks to pay his attorneys is to ride that gravy train through November.

I get emails from his people.  They're not coming after me.  They're coming after you, and I'm just standing in their way.  I can see the next one.  The democrats really want to charge YOU with forgery, filing false documents, trying to get a public officer to violate his oath, and RICO violations.  I'm just standing in the way.

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   What surprised me is the result of only 30% of Republicans disapproved of the treatment he's getting from bidet's DOJ.  That is pretty low and indicates people are just getting tired of this $hit.
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   What surprised me is the result of only 30% of Republicans disapproved of the treatment he's getting from bidet's DOJ.  That is pretty low and indicates people are just getting tired of this $hit.

I'm just as tired of our current GOP Senators and Representatives who don't seem to be doing a whole lot of anything to rectify what Brandon is doing.
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I'm just as tired of our current GOP Senators and Representatives who don't seem to be doing a whole lot of anything to rectify what Brandon is doing.


Well if you want Brandon impeached and removed you need 2/3 of the Senate to remove him. Do you think that the Dems are going to vote to remove him from office?
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Do you think that the Dems are going to vote to remove him from office?

Do you think the Dems are stupid enough to put Kamala Harris in the White House?
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   Tit for tat: they impeached Trump twice over BS charges.  I do believe McCarthy has strong evidence, enough for Impeachment but he lacks the balls and McTurtle is already on record of opposing the bidet Impeachment.
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Well if you want Brandon impeached and removed you need 2/3 of the Senate to remove him. Do you think that the Dems are going to vote to remove him from office?

I understand that. 
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   Tit for tat: they impeached Trump twice over BS charges.  I do believe McCarthy has strong evidence, enough for Impeachment but he lacks the balls and McTurtle is already on record of opposing the bidet Impeachment.

McCarthy caved on the budget.  Just one example.  Rand seems to be the only one going after Fauci.

As for the House we have a slight majority and if they're not going to do anything, then what's the point of seating them?
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   The House Freedom Caucus, which Ron DeSantis helped create, has done more with less on a few occasions, they may surprise US again.
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   Tit for tat: they impeached Trump twice over BS charges.  I do believe McCarthy has strong evidence, enough for Impeachment but he lacks the balls and McTurtle is already on record of opposing the bidet Impeachment.
I'd just about bet McTurtle is riding the same Chinese gravy train Biden is.

They don't want to mess up the cash pipeline.
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RCP AVERAGE: Trump has the largest advantage over DeSantis ever.

The GOP primary frontrunner on this day was...
-- Trump in 2015 with +12%
-- Romney in 2011 with +1.8%
-- Giuliani in 2007 with +10%

Today in 2023, Trump leads by +40.3%

Trump 54.4% (+40.3)
DeSantis 14.1%

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The House Freedom Caucus, which Ron DeSantis helped create, has done more with less on a few occasions, they may surprise US again.

Would love to see them impeach Mayorkas and Garland.  Wait until Biden is out of office, and then charge him with treason.
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If this poll accurately reflects public opinion, and I suspect it does, the numbers will worsen for Trump should he secure the nomination and start campaigning in the general

Biden and the Democrats have successfully defined Trump and the MAGAs to the voters at large. The one hope Trump would have is if large numbers of Democrat voters stay home. Banking on things getting bad in this country to propel them to victory won’t work.

Biden’s “MAGA Republican” speech he gave a few weeks before the midterms worked. It’s all he had.
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If this poll accurately reflects public opinion, and I suspect it does, the numbers will worsen for Trump should he secure the nomination and start campaigning in the general

Biden and the Democrats have successfully defined Trump and the MAGAs to the voters at large. The one hope Trump would have is if large numbers of Democrat voters stay home. Banking on things getting bad in this country to propel them to victory won’t work.

Biden’s “MAGA Republican” speech he gave a few weeks before the midterms worked. It’s all he had.

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Big deal. When it comes to the general election Trump is going to lose big.
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Big deal. When it comes to the general election Trump is going to lose big.

Yup.

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Big deal. When it comes to the general election Trump is going to lose big.

He will probably carry the same states as he did in 2020. But with a smaller popular vote margin
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What is the advantage in impeaching Biden, and/or removing him from office.

Do we really want to make it easy for the De.icrats to replace him on the 2024 ballot?