LIVE THREAD: Fulton County Indictment 4.0 This Week?

[mystery-ak]

Georgia Indictment: Trump Tweet Saying Election Hearings Were on TV ‘an Overt Act in Furtherance of the Conspiracy’

Jordan Dixon-Hamilton 14 Aug 2023

The Georgia indictment against former President Donald Trump and 18 co-defendants cites Trump’s tweets as acts purportedly made “in furtherance of the conspiracy.”

On Monday, a Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury handed down a 98-page, 41-count indictment. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s nearly three-year-long investigation into Trump culminated on Monday when jurors met for approximately ten hours and then handed down the indictment.

Trump is being charged under Georgia’s RICO statute, among others, which is the same statute Willis used to bring charges against Atlanta rap star Young Thug. The RICO statute was designed to dismantle organized crime groups.

The indictment cites 12 of Trump’s tweets, and one from former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, as “overt” acts made “in furtherance of the conspiracy.”

Some tweets were sent by Trump on January 6, 2021, while other posts encouraged people to watch public hearings about the allegations of voting irregularities.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/14/georgia-indictment-cites-trumps-tweets-overt-acts-furtherance-conspiracy/

[libertybele]

It isn't on its last legs, It is on its ass, likely sitting on its thumbs. It's a disgrace.

It is a disgrace, but I think that the GOP died on J6 (all by design).

[mystery-ak]

This DA just lied to the world: Kash Patel

Kash Patel discusses the unsealed indictment for former President Trump and 18 others in Georgia.

   

[mystery-ak]

 Trump, Giuliani, Meadows among 19 indicted in Georgia 2020 election racketeering case; Trump rages as 'Witch Hunt continues'

Former President Donald Trump and 18 of his allies and supporters were indicted Monday by a Georgia grand jury in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the Peach State.

more
https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/georgia-grand-jury-hands-up-indictment-in-trump-2020-election-investigation/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Pace myself? You are on a posting frenzy since you want to get ahead of the curb on spinning the latest crazy mostly self-inflicted Trump news and tell me to "pace myself".... Every day, week by week, month by month, year after year 76 thousand + posts and I need to "pace myself"

Yes @Sighlass   Pace spewing your snark.   People found this a pretty interesting thread --- over 1,700 times in a matter of hours.  So, I and others must be doing something right.  And, while important, try and remember the news really isn't *all* about your feelings.

[Kamaji]

You would be easier to take seriously if you weren't  such a condescending  old bitch. 

[Polly Ticks]

 

[catfish1957]

You would be easier to take seriously if you weren't  such a condescending  old bitch.

lol...well played.

[mystery-ak]

Trump Faces 76.5 Years in Prison in Georgia; 91 Counts, 727.5 Years Overall, Plus Death Penalty

Joel B. Pollak 15 Aug 2023

Former President Donald Trump could face up to 76.5 years in state prison if he is convicted and receives the maximum sentence on all 13 counts he faces in the indictment filed by Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis late Monday night.

Here are the counts:

1 – Violation of the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act, O.C.G.A. § 16-4-4(c) – up to 20 years

5 – Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-7 & 16-10-1 – up to three years

9 – Conspiracy to Commit Impersonating a Public Officer – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-10-23 – two and-a-half years (in Georgia, the crime of conspiracy carries up to half the maximum penalty for the substantive offense, which in this case is five years)

11 – Conspiracy to Commit Forgery in the First Degree – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-9-1(b) – seven and-a-half years (half of 15)

13 – Conspiracy to Commit False Statements and Writings – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-10-20 – two and-a-half years (see 29, below)

15 – Conspiracy to Commit Filing False Documents – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 and 16-10-20.1(b)(1) – five years

17 – Conspiracy to Commit Forgery in the First Degree – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-9-1(b) – seven and-a-half years (half of 15)

19 – Conspiracy to Commit False Statements and Writings – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-10-20 – two and-a-half years (see 29, below)

27 – Filing False Documents – O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20.1(b)(1) – ten years

28 – Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-7 & 16-10-1 – up to three years
29 – False Statements and Writings – O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20 – five years

38 – Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-7 & 16-10-1 – up to three years

39 – False Statements and Writings – O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20 – five years

In addition, Trump faces:

    136 years in 34 counts in the New York case, involving alleged false business records in the Stormy Daniels affair
    460 years in the 40 counts in the federal case in Miami, involving alleged mishandling of presidential documents
    55 years in 4 counts in the federal case in Washington, D.C., involving 2020 election challenges and the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot

Thus Trump could face up to 727.5 years in prison. The latter charge in D.C. also includes the possibility of the death penalty.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/15/trump-faces-76-5-years-in-prison-in-georgia-indictment-727-5-overall-plus-death-penalty/

[Idiot]

You would be easier to take seriously if you weren't  such a condescending  old bitch.

And there I said you had mellowed out. 

[Hoodat]

You would be easier to take seriously if you weren't  such a condescending  old bitch.

I take exception to that statement.  There's really no way of knowing how old she is.

[corbe]

 

[Hoodat]

11 – Conspiracy to Commit Forgery in the First Degree – O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-9-1(b) – seven and-a-half years (half of 15)

There is no such offense.  The section cited:  O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-9-1(b)

There is no 'conspiracy' mentioned.  Section b:

A person commits the offense of forgery in the first degree when with the intent to defraud he or she knowingly makes, alters, or possesses any writing, other than a check, in a fictitious name or in such manner that the writing as made or altered purports to have been made by another person, at another time, with different provisions, or by authority of one who did not give such authority and utters or delivers such writing.

There is no connection between this statute and anything Trump did.  However, this is EXACTLY what Fulton County election workers did in the dead of night with no GOP election observers present.

[LMAO]

From the article….

Thus Trump could face up to 727.5 years in prison. The latter charge in D.C. also includes the possibility of the death penalty.

Murderers and gang leaders don’t even get that in DC

[Wingnut]

And there I said you had mellowed out. 

To err is human!

[Hoodat]

1 – Violation of the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act, O.C.G.A. § 16-4-4(c) – up to 20 years

Wrong statute.  Georgia RICO law is O.C.G.A. § 16-14-4

(a)  It shall be unlawful for any person, through a pattern of racketeering activity or proceeds derived therefrom, to acquire or maintain, directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any enterprise, real property, or personal property of any nature, including money.

(b)  It shall be unlawful for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise to conduct or participate in, directly or indirectly, such enterprise through a pattern of racketeering activity.

(c)  It shall be unlawful for any person to conspire or endeavor to violate any of the provisions of subsection (a) or (b) of this Code section. A person violates this subsection when:

(1)  He or she together with one or more persons conspires to violate any of the provisions of subsection (a) or (b) of this Code section and any one or more of such persons commits any overt act to effect the object of the conspiracy; or

(2)  He or she endeavors to violate any of the provisions of subsection (a) or (b) of this Code section and commits any overt act to effect the object of the endeavor.

There is NOTHING in Sections (a) or (b) that even remotely describe the very worst of what Trump is being accused of.

[Wingnut]

Wrong! you impotent, hate filled loser. I am neither old nor a bitch.

I will, however, confess to condescension-- on occasion. It's just SO damn easy. 



@Wingnut

Someone said you were hanging on to 60....by your finger nails and for dear life. 

So it must be true.

[jmyrlefuller]

I take exception to that statement.  There's really no way of knowing how old she is.

@DCPatriot knows but won't tell.

[mystery-ak]

Knock off the personal attacks..

[Right_in_Virginia]

Someone said you were hanging on to 60....by your finger nails and for dear life. 

I hope to, someday @Wingnut .. but not for many, many years.

[Kamaji]

There is no such offense.  The section cited:  O.C.G.A. §§ 16-4-8 & 16-9-1(b)

There is no 'conspiracy' mentioned.  Section b:

A person commits the offense of forgery in the first degree when with the intent to defraud he or she knowingly makes, alters, or possesses any writing, other than a check, in a fictitious name or in such manner that the writing as made or altered purports to have been made by another person, at another time, with different provisions, or by authority of one who did not give such authority and utters or delivers such writing.

There is no connection between this statute and anything Trump did.  However, this is EXACTLY what Fulton County election workers did in the dead of night with no GOP election observers present.

There is a general conspiracy statute, Ga. Code Ann. §16-4-8, that makes it illegal to conspire to commit a crime.  "Crime" for these purposes is defined in Ga. Code Ann. §16-2-1.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@DCPatriot knows but won't tell.

Relax.  @DCPatriot does not know my age, either. 

No one's thought to ask me.   

[libertybele]

 Trump, Giuliani, Meadows among 19 indicted in Georgia 2020 election racketeering case; Trump rages as 'Witch Hunt continues'

Former President Donald Trump and 18 of his allies and supporters were indicted Monday by a Georgia grand jury in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the Peach State.

more
https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/georgia-grand-jury-hands-up-indictment-in-trump-2020-election-investigation/

Trump is beginning to show his age and more so, he is beginning to look defeated. Not good. He's been through a lot and they aren't finished with him yet.

[LMAO]

Well, since the subject now is how old members are, I’m not shy of declaring my age

I am 57.

Anybody wanna go next?

[Right_in_Virginia]

It's rather amazing, in a disturbing sort of way, how much of me fills the day for some folks.  I guess I'm happy to help.