GOP sees turnout disaster without Trump

[mystery-ak]

 GOP sees turnout disaster without Trump
by Alexander Bolton - 08/14/23 6:00 AM ET

Republican strategists are worried that if former President Trump doesn’t secure the GOP’s presidential nomination next year, or if he is kept off the ballot because of his mounting legal problems, it could spell a voter turnout disaster for their party in 2024. 

GOP strategists say there’s growing concern that if Trump is not the nominee, many of his core supporters, who are estimated to make up 25 percent to 35 percent of the party base, “will take their ball and go home.”

“The conventional wisdom is there’s concern that if Trump’s not the nominee, his coalition will take their ball and go home,” said Matt Dole, a Republican strategist based in Ohio, where Republicans are targeting vulnerable Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown.

“Folks are interested in how that plays out, and so I think right now, they would be happy if Trump’s the nominee — in Ohio, it’s not true across the country — because then his coalition will turn out in November,” he said. 

A Pew Research Center analysis of the 2022 midterm election published last month found that higher turnout among Trump voters last year was a key factor behind Republicans winning control of the House.

The analysis found that 71 percent of voters who backed Trump participated in the midterm election, compared to 67 percent of voters who supported Biden. 

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4149548-gop-sees-turnout-disaster-without-trump/

[LMAO]

I do agree with this article

The GOP is between a rock and a hard place. MAGA candidates representing Trump will have a hard time winning a general election. But anybody outside of Donald Trump has a tough time winning the primary.

The GOP may be in the wilderness for quite a while

Despite his cognitive issues, and despite his political troubles, Biden successfully defined “MAGA Republican” for voters in the 2022 election and staving off what was set  to become a red wave. But MAGA candidates did very well in Republican primaries.

[Idiot]

GOP sees turnout disaster without Trump
by Alexander Bolton - 08/14/23 6:00 AM ET

Republican strategists are worried that if former President Trump doesn’t secure the GOP’s presidential nomination next year, or if he is kept off the ballot because of his mounting legal problems, it could spell a voter turnout disaster for their party in 2024. 

GOP strategists say there’s growing concern that if Trump is not the nominee, many of his core supporters, who are estimated to make up 25 percent to 35 percent of the party base, “will take their ball and go home.”

“The conventional wisdom is there’s concern that if Trump’s not the nominee, his coalition will take their ball and go home,” said Matt Dole, a Republican strategist based in Ohio, where Republicans are targeting vulnerable Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown.

“Folks are interested in how that plays out, and so I think right now, they would be happy if Trump’s the nominee — in Ohio, it’s not true across the country — because then his coalition will turn out in November,” he said. 

A Pew Research Center analysis of the 2022 midterm election published last month found that higher turnout among Trump voters last year was a key factor behind Republicans winning control of the House.

The analysis found that 71 percent of voters who backed Trump participated in the midterm election, compared to 67 percent of voters who supported Biden. 

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4149548-gop-sees-turnout-disaster-without-trump/

Not to worry, Trump will win the nomination (in prison or not).  If he can shut his mouth the GOP might retain the house and possibly win the senate.  If he opens his mouth they'll lose both.  As far as the presidency, not a snowball's chance in hell.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Not to worry, Trump will win the nomination (in prison or not).  If he can shut his mouth the GOP might retain the house and possibly win the senate.  If he opens his mouth they'll lose both.  As far as the presidency, not a snowball's chance in hell.

How to say "we're screwed" without saying "we're screwed".

[Maj. Bill Martin]

GOP strategists say there’s growing concern that if Trump is not the nominee, many of his core supporters, who are estimated to make up 25 percent to 35 percent of the party base, “will take their ball and go home.”

That's possible, although as long as their CongressCritter supported Trump, I think they'll show anyway.

I also think the number that ultimately will stay home and not vote will be less than is currently believed.  If Trump is not the nominee, there will be a significant period of time between the time the actual nominee is identified, and the election. During those months, the left will be going after that nominee hard, and pushing their own agenda. I think those months will do a lot to sway voters who may have initially considered staying home.

A Pew Research Center analysis of the 2022 midterm election published last month found that higher turnout among Trump voters last year was a key factor behind Republicans winning control of the House.

The analysis found that 71 percent of voters who backed Trump participated in the midterm election, compared to 67 percent of voters who supported Biden.

Not sure that really means much. The party out of power traditionally gain seats during the midterms because of higher turnout.

[cato potatoe]

It works both ways.  Joe Biden had never won anything outside of Delaware and would have turnout problems unless Donald Trump were on the same ballot.  It was good for 81 million votes last time.  Maybe the same people will see Donald’s descent into Nero and respond by sitting on their fannies, but I doubt it.

[Kamaji]

Not to worry, Trump will win the nomination (in prison or not).  If he can shut his mouth the GOP might retain the house and possibly win the senate.  If he opens his mouth they'll lose both.  As far as the presidency, not a snowball's chance in hell.

[DefiantMassRINO]

 

GOP needs to seek counseling for its unhealthy co-dependency on Trump.  Trump ain't gonna change.  He's only going to break Ronna McDaniel's heart again.

Everytime I think the GOP has hit rock bottom with Trump, they manage to find an even lower rock bottom.

The GOP doesn't learn from losing; they just double down a failure.

The GOP and Trump need to break up, so the GOP can move on.

We can steal all of Trump's good policies to lay a foundation on top of which we can build.

[ScottinVA]

The key in 2024 is to concentrate on attaining success in Senate and House races, since so many on the GOP side are dead set on going down in flames with Trump in the general election.  If Trump is nominated, he will be crushed in the general; if he loses the nomination, the MAGAs will walk.  Either way, Biden will be re-elected.

[libertybele]

The key in 2024 is to concentrate on attaining success in Senate and House races, since so many on the GOP side are dead set on going down in flames with Trump in the general election.  If Trump is nominated, he will be crushed in the general; if he loses the nomination, the MAGAs will walk.  Either way, Biden will be re-elected.

It remains to be seen of course, but I still don't think Trump will win the nomination; too much going against him.

As far as increasing the GOP majority in the House and Senate, that is imperative.

[DefiantMassRINO]

 

... unless Trump meddles with House and Senate GOP Primaries again.

[Fishrrman]

LMAO grimaces:
"The GOP is between a rock and a hard place. MAGA candidates representing Trump will have a hard time winning a general election"

The solution is simple.
Vote for them.
(that is all, nothing follows)

[Right_in_Virginia]

GOP strategists say there’s growing concern that if Trump is not the nominee, many of his core supporters, who are estimated to make up 25 percent to 35 percent of the party base, “will take their ball and go home.”

No GOP candidate climbing on the political grave of Donald Trump will reach the White House.

A reckoning for the eight years of relentless government sponsored torture and lawfare persecution of all of MAGA will be had.  The preference is the return of Donald Trump to the White House to finish his mission while returning the US to peace, prosperity and strength.

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

That is all.

[libertybele]

No GOP candidate climbing on the political grave of Donald Trump will reach the White House.

A reckoning for the eight years of relentless government sponsored torture and lawfare persecution of all of MAGA will be had.  The preference is the return of Donald Trump to the White House to finish his mission while returning the US to peace, prosperity and strength.

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

That is all.

The election is over a year away.  Lot's can happen.  The concern for me is what the leftists will do to ensure that Trump can't run. I don't like that decision made for me. 

As far as other GOP candidates winning the WH or the nomination -- again, it's way too early to tell.

[Idiot]

No GOP candidate climbing on the political grave of Donald Trump will reach the White House.

A reckoning for the eight years of relentless government sponsored torture and lawfare persecution of all of MAGA will be had.  The preference is the return of Donald Trump to the White House to finish his mission while returning the US to peace, prosperity and strength.

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

That is all.

Your guy is being indicted again probably within the hour.

[Kamaji]

No GOP candidate climbing on the political grave of Donald Trump will reach the White House.

A reckoning for the eight years of relentless government sponsored torture and lawfare persecution of all of MAGA will be had.  The preference is the return of Donald Trump to the White House to finish his mission while returning the US to peace, prosperity and strength.

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

That is all.

And that, dear members, is what a cult of personality looks like.  That is the raving of a card-carrying member of the Cult of Donald Trump.  That way lies danger; just one more reason to turn Trump out.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

And that, dear members, is what a cult of personality looks like.  That is the raving of a card-carrying member of the Cult of Donald Trump.  That way lies danger; just one more reason to turn Trump out.

 

The hilarious irony of someone who claims to support Trump acting in a way that has the opposite effect. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

And that, dear members, is what a cult of personality looks like.  That is the raving of a card-carrying member of the Cult of Donald Trump.

No, dear @Kamaji  That is what courage and standing with the heroes of the American Revolution against totalitarian control look like ---- both foreign concepts in your hate-driven world of surrender.

[Hoodat]

The analysis found that 71 percent of voters who backed Trump participated in the midterm election, compared to 67 percent of voters who supported Biden. 

So with Trump on the ballot in 2024, we should expect a Democrat turnout 50% higher than in 2022.

[Timber Rattler]

No GOP candidate climbing on the political grave of Donald Trump will reach the White House.

A reckoning for the eight years of relentless government sponsored torture and lawfare persecution of all of MAGA will be had.  The preference is the return of Donald Trump to the White House to finish his mission while returning the US to peace, prosperity and strength.

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

That is all.

Well then, enjoy Democrat rule since Trump's going to jail, one way or the other, and will not be elected again in 2024.

[cato potatoe]

Denied this, MAGA "taking their ball and going home" is not a guarantee.  Without Trump on the ticket, showing up to vote the Republican/Conservative Party into the dustbin of history becomes the acceptable Plan B reckoning.  MAGA is past allegiance to and faith in a political party filled with Totalitarian co-conspirators.

Really ... ultra MAGA has moved on to next level drama?  You already bought a pallet load of kool-aid, so why not stick with that plan.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Well then, enjoy Democrat rule since Trump's going to jail, one way or the other, and will not be elected again in 2024.

You appear to be trapped in a time warp. The "who else are you going to vote for" days are over. That thinking is what brought us to this point in our history. We surrendered the power of our vote to the "lesser of two evils" fallacy. No more.

This is about a return to peace, prosperity, freedom and strength. AND, it’s about uprooting a deep administrative state that has grown into a monster totalitarian Uniparty.

If the Totalitarians among us are successful in stopping Trump from running, the Republic is done.

The only chance of rebuilding will be to crush the Republican Party -— from top to bottom -— and clear the way for a true opposition party.

[jmyrlefuller]

You appear to be trapped in a time warp. The "who else are you going to vote for" days are over. That thinking is what brought us to this point in our history. We surrendered the power of our vote to the "lesser of two evils" fallacy. No more.

This is about a return to peace, prosperity, freedom and strength. AND, it’s about uprooting a deep administrative state that has grown into a monster totalitarian Uniparty.

If the Totalitarians among us are successful in stopping Trump from running, the Republic is done.

The only chance of rebuilding will be to crush the Republican Party -— from top to bottom -— and clear the way for a true opposition party.

Funny how the Democrats somehow have existed since Jefferson yet the Federalists, Whigs and Republicans all have been crushed. As if we're really a one-party state all along.

[corbe]

You appear to be trapped in a time warp. The "who else are you going to vote for" days are over. That thinking is what brought us to this point in our history. We surrendered the power of our vote to the "lesser of two evils" fallacy. No more.

This is about a return to peace, prosperity, freedom and strength. AND, it’s about uprooting a deep administrative state that has grown into a monster totalitarian Uniparty.

If the Totalitarians among us are successful in stopping Trump from running, the Republic is done.

The only chance of rebuilding will be to crush the Republican Party -— from top to bottom -— and clear the way for a true opposition party.

   You forgot the Disclaimer, RiV

[roamer_1]

The only chance of rebuilding will be to crush the Republican Party -— from top to bottom -— and clear the way for a true opposition party.

... Based in populism of course. A fart in a teapot.