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[Hoodat]

It's pretty incredible. The one thing Trump fans love the most about the guy is that he supposedly is strong and will stand up to the swamp.   And yet, when push came to shove in the most critical national crisis facing us in decades, he wilted.  Exactly like the RINO's and GOPe would have done.

And rather than being rightly outraged that their leader betrayed them, his supporters just offer the incredibly lame excuse that it would have been politically unpopular.

It's quite sad, actually.

[libertybele]

The even larger question is if Trump refuses to take necessary actions because he believes they'll be politically unpopular - as he did in going along with Fauci and the stimulus checks - then what good is he?  How many more issues beyond just straight fiscal policy would come up in a second term where Trump would back down for that same reason?

It's pretty incredible. The one thing Trump fans love the most about the guy is that he supposedly is strong and will stand up to the swamp.   And yet, when push came to shove in the most critical national crisis facing us in decades, he wilted.  Exactly like the RINO's and GOPe would have done.

And rather than being rightly outraged that their leader betrayed them, his supporters just offer the incredibly lame excuse that it would have been politically unpopular.

I definitely have a problem with the "Politically unpopular" argument.  As I have mentioned numerous times, Trump on more than one occasion promised to calm the rioters and put an end to the riots. He FAILED to do so and he didn't implement the "Insurrection Act" which several president used, all because it would be politically unpopular and his re-election was nearing.  Here we sit!

[roamer_1]

I served up a valid reason which the graph clearly shows.  Take away the phony pandemic and President Trump becomes typical.

Wait, wait, wait... Spending at an arc INCREASING... continued CLIMBING at the same scale as Obama, BEFORE COVID. That is not typical. That is abhorrent.

Your graphic just proves y'all spend MORE than Democrats. 

[Hoodat]

Your graphic just proves y'all spend MORE than Democrats. 

I don't know which of the two is worse.  Trump spending like Obama?  Or his supporters on this forum defending him spending like Obama.

[roamer_1]

I don't know which of the two is worse.  Trump spending like Obama?  Or his supporters on this forum defending him spending like Obama.

It truly boggles the mind.

[bigheadfred]

When Republicans control the House spending doesn't decrease. It doesn't matter if it is Trump or DeSantis, or someone else. Nothing is going to change.

[Hoodat]

When Republicans control the House spending doesn't decrease. It doesn't matter if it is Trump or DeSantis, or someone else. Nothing is going to change.

The President signs the spending bills.  The President spends the money.  The President can stop it.  It won't be popular.  But it will be the right thing to do.

If the government can't act responsibly, then they shouldn't have access to the taxpayers' money.  Shut it down.  Every last bit of it.  End every perk of every legislator, department head, etc.  Sell off the Dirksen and Russell office buildings.  And force States to provide office space for their Congressional members inside the districts they represent.

[corbe]

   President Cruz or DeSantis wouldn't have signed those Bloated Budgets that Ryan and pelousi sent to him but Trump did.  Maybe Congress would have overridden his Veto~BUT his name ain't on that $hit.

[Hoodat]

It was pretty clear back in 2015 when Trump defended giving taxpayer money to Planned Parenthood.  But his sycophants kept pushing that lying-ass "Drain the Swamp" bullshit on us all.  And eight years later, they still are.

[roamer_1]

When Republicans control the House spending doesn't decrease. It doesn't matter if it is Trump or DeSantis, or someone else. Nothing is going to change.

You have to stop thinking in terms of Republican vs. Democrat. And stop concatenating Republican and Conservative.

The fight is Conservative vs. Liberal, and YES, Conservatives in power would change the whole deal. Just gotta quit voting for anything less. Including populist promises.

[LMAO]

And Trump signed off on every dollar of it.  Both printing and spending.  And instead of helping the economy, it destroyed it.  Which every Conservative told you would happen.  Once again, Conservatives were right.

Conservatives also gave the same warning over his tariffs. Once again, conservatives were right.

[LMAO]

There were things that Trump did right on the economy and he was much better on the economy than the current occupier. Reeling back some of taxes, cutting regulations and red tape.

I was  better off financially under Trump than Biden. The current occupier is a complete wrecking Ball 
when it comes to economic matters

For example, can anyone give a remotely decent argument of why someone like Jennifer Granholm is our energy secretary?

[roamer_1]

There were things that Trump did right on the economy and he was much better on the economy than the current occupier. Reeling back some of taxes, cutting regulations and red tape.

Yeah, but that's not magic... It's the same ol thing every Republican president has done... Corporate tax cut, shake a few benjamins down in the trailer courts, and suddenly, rainmaker.

The problem is, and Tumpy included, they never pay it back, printing money to make it go.

Sure, and it LOOKS better, and FEELS better, but it's mostly manufactured out of debt and inflation (printing).

Some of what you said is true - a friendly disposition toward business, drill baby drill, and deregulation, especially in energy, driving energy costs (way) down makes manufacturing cheaper, and shipping cheaper ... All that sort of thing is right, and he deserves credit for that.

[corbe]

       I spearheaded that movement.

[Smokin Joe]

When Republicans control the House spending doesn't decrease. It doesn't matter if it is Trump or DeSantis, or someone else. Nothing is going to change.

Newt Gingrich was the last Speaker to hold the POTUS back spending, and Clinton took the credit. Newt also had an actual budget, IIRC, not CR xyz^n.