Man killed during FBI raid in connection with threats against Biden, other officials

[kevindavis007]

FWIW:

https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1689976391297622017

[Right_in_Virginia]

THIS is the Spirit of 1776!   

Jack Poso 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec ·
5h

A lone man in a red hat appeared on the street in Provo, Utah today outside where the FBI raided and killed Craig Robertson

He held up a flag: "F*CK BIDEN"

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

FWIW:

https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1689976391297622017

Yeah. Please don't attempt to make this nutso a martyr.

[goatprairie]

THIS is the Spirit of 1776!   

Jack Poso 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec ·
5h

A lone man in a red hat appeared on the street in Provo, Utah today outside where the FBI raided and killed Craig Robertson

He held up a flag: "F*CK BIDEN"

More like the Spirit Of Stupidity. Nice message to send to young people.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Glenn Beck
@glennbeck
·23h

I’m seeing the government do things I’ve never seen in my 40+ years of broadcasting. People have mailed credible threats to presidents for years. They’ve (rightly) been investigated for it, but I’ve never seen the FBI gun anybody down for it. Ever. This is not normal.


Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

Craig Robertson’s family statement in full

‘We, the family of Craig Deeluew Robertson, are shocked and devastated by the senseless and tragic killing of our beloved father and brother, and we fervently mourn the loss of a good and decent man.

The Craig Robertson we knew was a kind and generous person who was always willing to assist another in need, even when advanced age, limited mobility, and other physical challenges made it more difficult and painful for him to do so.

He often used his expert woodworking skills to craft beautiful and creative items for others, including toys such as sleighs, rocking horses, and bubble gum dispensers for the children of friends and neighbors at Christmas time. He was active in his local church congregation and loved the Lord Jesus Christ with all his heart.

He was a devoted dog lover all his life, and he lavished his animals with love and affection. He was a lover of history and an avid reader of every kind of book. In his younger years, he was a sportsman and hunter.

He was a firearm enthusiast, collector and gunsmith, who staunchly supported the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms for the purposes of providing food and protection for his family and home.

As a safety inspector in the steel industry, he worked diligently and conscientiously to safeguard the lives and well-being of untold thousands who would use, and benefit from, the numerous industrial and public works projects he was responsible for during the course of a decades-long career.

Craig loved this country with all his heart. He saw it as a God-inspired and God-blessed land of liberty. He was understandably frustrated and distraught by the present and on-going erosions to our constitutionally protected freedoms and the rights of free citizens wrought by what he, and many others in this nation, observed to be a corrupt and overreaching government.

As an elderly–and largely homebound–man, there was very little he could do but exercise his First Amendment right to free speech and voice his protest in what has become the public square of our age–the internet and social media. Though his statements were intemperate at times, he has never, and would never, commit any act of violence against another human being over a political or philosophical disagreement.

As our family processes the grief and pain of our loss, we would have it be known that we hold no personal animosity towards those individuals who took part in the ill-fated events of the morning of August 9, 2023, which resulted in Craig’s death.

We ask that the media and public respect our family members’ privacy and give us the time and space needed to come to terms with the sad tragedy of these events.’

[Fishrrman]

Weird chides us with:
"Please don't attempt to make this nutso a martyr."

Yeah.
Just like Randy Weaver, eh....?

[Sighlass]

The FBI (or whatever three letter devil) couldn't break down his front door.... so they just rammed the house with a machine. Wonder they didn't "waco" the house on fire in the process for good measure.

[mountaineer]

The FBI (or whatever three letter devil) couldn't break down his front door.... so they just rammed the house with a machine. Wonder they didn't "waco" the house on fire in the process for good measure.

Like I said, they had no intention of taking him alive.

[Bigun]

Like I said, they had no intention of taking him alive.

  

[mountaineer]

I know Third Reich references usually are what lazy people do, but I can't help but be reminded of Geheime Staatspolizei in this case.

[Right_in_Virginia]

[mountaineer]

Andrew Pollack
@AndrewPollackFL
The FBI hunted and killed a 75-year-old Trump supporter over a Facebook post, but didn’t arrest Ray Epps for telling people to go into the Capitol.  Really makes you think.
5:41 PM · Aug 9, 2023

Dr. Carol M. Swain
@carolmswain
The #FBI also did not properly address death threats against conservative Supreme Court Justices. Is anyone surprised that there were no investigations of Scalia’s death and fast burial amidst suspicious circumstances? It occurred at a top Democrat donor’s ranch in the middle of nowhere.
6:32 AM · Aug 10, 2023

[Maj. Bill Martin]

They knew fully well he was a nut and not an actual threat. They didn't care. They executed this guy and left his body lying in the street - perhaps as a warning.

What warning were they trying to send?  "Don't post things on social media about how you might assassinate the President?"

I'd imagine they get lots of threats like this one.  The Secret Service then goes to the house, knocks on the door, and asks to talk to the person so they can assess how much of an actual threat they are.  I'd bet most people in that situation just open the door and talk to them because they realize "oh crap, I screwed up, I shouldn't have said all that crap."

But I'm not sure what generally happens when someone threatens the President and then barricades themselves in their house when the Secret Service comes to question them. 

My guess is that they don't just walk away, but I'd be interested in seeing what the protocols are supposed to be.   Threatening the President is a crime, so they do have the right to arrest you and take you into custody.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Did he fire shots?

[mountaineer]

Yes, threatening to kill the president is a crime. I doubt any of us would deny that. This guy was an idiot for posting the nonsense he did.

But the FBI could have taken him into custody peacefully and without violence during the many days or weeks they surveilled him and tailed him while he was out in public. Instead, they detonated flashbangs and stormed his house at 6 a.m., waking him, when they knew he'd react by grabbing a gun to protect himself and the handicapped son for whom he cared. I don't know whether he actually fired shots at agents. (That we haven't heard about that may be indication that he didn't).

What would any of us do when awakened from a sound sleep by the sound of flashbangs and armed men crashing through the door? Probably grab a gun, if we have one. And a person with gun in hand need not actually fire it for the cops to be justified in shooting him first.

The FBI didn't give this fat old crippled man a chance to surrender. This is why I believe they wanted it to end the way it did - with a corpse.

[Bigun]

Yes, threatening to kill the president is a crime. I doubt any of us would deny that. This guy was an idiot for posting the nonsense he did.

But the FBI could have taken him into custody peacefully and without violence during the many days or weeks they surveilled him and tailed him while he was out in public. Instead, they detonated flashbangs and stormed his house at 6 a.m., waking him, when they knew he'd react by grabbing a gun to protect himself and the handicapped son for whom he cared. I don't know whether he actually fired shots at agents. (That we haven't heard about that may be indication that he didn't).

What would any of us do when awakened from a sound sleep by the sound of flashbangs and armed men crashing through the door? Probably grab a gun, if we have one. And a person with gun in hand need not actually fire it for the cops to be justified in shooting him first.

The FBI didn't give this fat old crippled man a chance to surrender. This is why I believe they wanted it to end the way it did - with a corpse.

How many times do we have to see this movie?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Yes, threatening to kill the president is a crime. I doubt any of us would deny that. This guy was an idiot for posting the nonsense he did.

But the FBI could have taken him into custody peacefully and without violence during the many days or weeks they surveilled him and tailed him while he was out in public. Instead, they detonated flashbangs and stormed his house at 6 a.m., waking him, when they knew he'd react by grabbing a gun to protect himself and the handicapped son for whom he cared. I don't know whether he actually fired shots at agents. (That we haven't heard about that may be indication that he didn't).

What would any of us do when awakened from a sound sleep by the sound of flashbangs and armed men crashing through the door? Probably grab a gun, if we have one. And a person with gun in hand need not actually fire it for the cops to be justified in shooting him first.

The FBI didn't give this fat old crippled man a chance to surrender. This is why I believe they wanted it to end the way it did - with a corpse.

A lot of these old guys may not leave the house that often, I’m not sure. But to me whether or not he fired shots is sort of the deciding factor in this.

[GtHawk]

A lot of these old guys may not leave the house that often, I’m not sure. But to me whether or not he fired shots is sort of the deciding factor in this.

Maybe, but I want to see video that proves that and not that they assassinated him and just said he fired shots, way to easy to fire his gun after they have possession of it. Anymore I wouldn't believe the FBI if they told me the sky was blue and grass was green

[Smokin Joe]

Yes, threatening to kill the president is a crime. I doubt any of us would deny that. This guy was an idiot for posting the nonsense he did.

But the FBI could have taken him into custody peacefully and without violence during the many days or weeks they surveilled him and tailed him while he was out in public. Instead, they detonated flashbangs and stormed his house at 6 a.m., waking him, when they knew he'd react by grabbing a gun to protect himself and the handicapped son for whom he cared. I don't know whether he actually fired shots at agents. (That we haven't heard about that may be indication that he didn't).

What would any of us do when awakened from a sound sleep by the sound of flashbangs and armed men crashing through the door? Probably grab a gun, if we have one. And a person with gun in hand need not actually fire it for the cops to be justified in shooting him first.

The FBI didn't give this fat old crippled man a chance to surrender. This is why I believe they wanted it to end the way it did - with a corpse.

They got what they wanted. an example

...don't try this at home, folks...