Four times abortion has been a losing point for the GOP in elections

[mystery-ak]

Four times abortion has been a losing point for the GOP in elections
Jack Birle


The Republican-backed Issue 1 failed in Ohio on Tuesday, the latest defeat in elections in which abortion was the key issue for voters.

The ballot initiative sought to require a 60% affirmative vote to modify the state constitution by ballot initiative, rather than the current simple majority, ahead of a vote on an initiative to codify abortion rights in the Ohio Constitution in November. Since the overruling of Roe v. Wade in the 2022 Supreme Court decision Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, abortion has been a losing point for the GOP.

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[Fishrrman]

With the passage of time, the Dobbs decision is going to be seen as a Pyrrhic victory for the right.

It is a "gift that keeps on giving" -- to the DCommunists and the left.

Thought it can be claimed as a moral and Constitutional victory, it has done next-to-nothing to help the right, and done much damage instead.

[bilo]

With the passage of time, the Dobbs decision is going to be seen as a Pyrrhic victory for the right.

It is a "gift that keeps on giving" -- to the DCommunists and the left.

Thought it can be claimed as a moral and Constitutional victory, it has done next-to-nothing to help the right, and done much damage instead.

It depends on how you look at the results. Yes, it is a terrible disappointment to see women voting in large numbers to have the right to murder babies that haven't been born yet. However, rather than lamenting the political losses that are mounting I rejoice in the hundreds of thousands of lives that have been saved.

[DB]

It depends on how you look at the results. Yes, it is a terrible disappointment to see women voting in large numbers to have the right to murder babies that haven't been born yet. However, rather than lamenting the political losses that are mounting I rejoice in the hundreds of thousands of lives that have been saved.

Some hills are worth dying on.

[DCPatriot]

Some hills are worth dying on.

"Speak for yourself, John Alden!"  /s

[Sighlass]

Some would rather call evil good to win elections.

[DB]

"Speak for yourself, John Alden!"  /s

I had to look that name up to tell if that was a complement or an insult :-)

[berdie]

Some hills are worth dying on.

Absolutely. Maybe the political hill can be fought in another battle without losing this hill.

[DCPatriot]

I had to look that name up to tell if that was a complement or an insult :-)

    

[bigheadfred]

I'm still holding out that it was Dobbs that broke the big red wave and not Trump toxicity.

[DefiantMassRINO]

It's not so much abortion ... it's more of Government overreach into personal reproductive and vaccination medical decisions.

The Government shouldn't force you to take a jab; nor should it force a woman to risk death when she's miscarrying.

To give Government such authority over our personal healthcare decisions brings America that much closer to becoming a totalitarian regime, akin to Iran and China.

[bilo]

Some hills are worth dying on.

 

[bilo]

It's not so much abortion ... it's more of Government overreach into personal reproductive and vaccination medical decisions.

The Government shouldn't force you to take a jab; nor should it force a woman to risk death when she's miscarrying.

To give Government such authority over our personal healthcare decisions brings America that much closer to becoming a totalitarian regime, akin to Iran and China.

Is it a clump of cells, or is it a human being that hasn't been born yet? I believe it to be the latter.

I would like to know the States that require a woman to have the baby when her life is truly in danger. We can fight to change that.

[Hoodat]

Killing babies is OK if it is politically expedient.

[Right_in_Virginia]

With the passage of time, the Dobbs decision is going to be seen as a Pyrrhic victory for the right.

It is a "gift that keeps on giving" -- to the DCommunists and the left.

Thought it can be claimed as a moral and Constitutional victory, it has done next-to-nothing to help the right, and done much damage instead.

Especially true when some on the right are now talking about re-federalizing the abortion issue, try to outdo each other on limiting the weeks of pregnancy permissable, debate the validity of exceptions for rape, incest and mother's health, and consider legal punishments.

It's been 50 years since the Roe v Wade decision.  Instead of using that time to influence hearts and minds, Republicans/Conservatives have ignored the women involved and focused on petitioning the government.  They're still at it.   


@Fishrrman

[LMAO]

I'm still holding out that it was Dobbs that broke the big red wave and not Trump toxicity.

Maybe partially

Except that Republicans who did favor more restrictions on abortion than their Democrat opponents, won their elections

Kemp, Sununu, DeSantis, and even our own senator, for example, had their opponents try to make abortion restriction an issue, and all of them won reelection.

What they all have in common is separating themselves from a Trump endorsement

Dr. Oz, who was endorsed by Donald Trump, for example, did say that abortion should be left up to the states and he lost

Maybe the candidates would be better just taking the Rush Limbaugh position on abortion which is similar to mine. His position was it was better to work to change the hearts and minds of people versus passing all kinds of laws.

I’m a little bit more moderate on the abortion question than Ron DeSantis is. It’s one of the areas I probably disagree with him somewhat on

[bilo]

Killing babies is OK if it is politically expedient.

I don't want to be anywhere near those people when they face judgement.

[PeteS in CA]

Did Jack Birle - after a bit of rooting around, I learned he is a reporter for the Washington Examiner - speak to Rs' disdain for Pro-Life people and banishing them to the back of the bus in 1992 and 1996? Bill Clinton still owes those R "leaders" a thank you card for their contribution to his election successes. Birle may be too young to have substantial memories from those elections, but he could have done a bit of research..

[Right_in_Virginia]

I don't want to be anywhere near those people when they face judgement.

We will each face judgement @bilo

[ScottinVA]

The overturning of Roe v Wade was probably the most catalyzing moment for the dems in the ‘22 midterms.  They were headed for a rout and the SCOTUS ruling brought them to the polls in multitudes.

As evil as abortion is, it’s unfortunately wildly popular in this country, and it will limit GOP electoral success for a long time.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Killing babies is OK if it is politically expedient.

No one has claimed it is.  But continuing to focus on political solutions, as the past 50 years prove, does little to nothing to save lives.  In fact, it empowers and energizes the satanists among us.

How many unopened gifts of life are Republicans/Conservatives willing to return to God before figuring this out?

[libertybele]

The overturning of Roe v Wade was probably the most catalyzing moment for the dems in the ‘22 midterms.  They were headed for a rout and the SCOTUS ruling brought them to the polls in multitudes.

As evil as abortion is, it’s unfortunately wildly popular in this country, and it will limit GOP electoral success for a long time.

People need to understand that the issue and rules surrounding abortion was returned to the states.  It has become a state issue.

I don't believe that abortion after a certain period of time is wildly popular, especially late term abortions or even ending life after birth!

What is truly limiting GOP success is the DEMS' ability to steal elections and they stand united.  The GOP does not stand united and still remains deeply severed with only a few true conservatives seated and the remaining lean liberal. 

[bilo]

People need to understand that the issue and rules surrounding abortion was returned to the states.  It has become a state issue.

I don't believe that abortion after a certain period of time is wildly popular, especially late term abortions or even ending life after birth!

What is truly limiting GOP success is the DEMS' ability to steal elections and they stand united.  The GOP does not stand united and still remains deeply severed with only a few true conservatives seated and the remaining lean liberal.

But yet, we see a majority of women voting for the right to murder babies before they are born.

I understand we live in a culture that doesn't call for personal responsibility. Odds are this won't change for most young women, but for those that reject the feminist dogma and pursue a traditional lifestyle the odds are they will be happier in the end.

Unfortunately, the Pubs don't put up much of a fight over anything. The Pubs are afraid to defend the right of the unborn to live. If they won't fight for something so foundational it's very unlikely they will fight election fraud.

[Smokin Joe]

People need to understand that the issue and rules surrounding abortion was returned to the states.  It has become a state issue.

I don't believe that abortion after a certain period of time is wildly popular, especially late term abortions or even ending life after birth!

What is truly limiting GOP success is the DEMS' ability to steal elections and they stand united.  The GOP does not stand united and still remains deeply severed with only a few true conservatives seated and the remaining lean liberal.

And as long as the GOP continues to be divided, there will be pearl-clutching and myriad other excuses why it lost the elections that without fraud it may have won.

But, too as long as the GOP fails to recognize its problems they will remain, and there are many in the ranks who are just fine with that--or they would have taken steps to change it.

[bilo]

And as long as the GOP continues to be divided, there will be pearl-clutching and myriad other excuses why it lost the elections that without fraud it may have won.

But, too as long as the GOP fails to recognize its problems they will remain, and there are many in the ranks who are just fine with that--or they would have taken steps to change it.

I'm with you!

As I've tried to look at this problem objectively I've become more convinced we can't beat the Rats. They are united in their hatred of traditional Judeo-Christian values and the understanding that our rights are God given not dictated by govt., or a monarch. The Rats are masters at projection and manipulation of language. Abortion is a great example of this. Women have been indoctrinated with the idea that destroying human life is actually not destroying life it is an act of independent empowerment.