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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #150 on: August 18, 2023, 03:24:06 am »
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Didn’t cut the power to the electrical wires despite massive wind storm

Didn’t sound the fire alarms once the inferno started

Didn’t turn on major water supply to put the fires out

Biden keeps responding “No comment”

Won’t allow non-government supplies to reach desperate people

$700 per family while Ukraine gets $100B+

The more we learn about Hawaii, the more it reeks of incompetence at best and malevolence at worst

If I were a Hawaiian, I’d be enraged about what these people are doing to you

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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #151 on: August 18, 2023, 01:35:59 pm »
Maui Emergency Management Head Resigns After Questions of Not Sounding Alarm During Wildfires

Herman Andaya, the head administrator for the Maui Emergency Management Agency, resigned from his position just shortly after questions erupted about his handling of the wildfire disaster.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/17/maui-emergency-management-head-resigns-questions-not-sounding-alarm-wildfires/
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2023, 01:39:43 pm »
Hawaii State Sen.: ‘We Need FEMA to Come off that 30,000-Foot Cloud’ and Work with Locals, We’re Getting Ignored

Ian Hanchett 17 Aug 2023

On Thursday’s “CNN News Central,” Hawaii State Sen. Angus McKelvey (D), whose district includes Lahaina, stated that “we need FEMA to come off that 30,000-foot cloud, to come out of Honolulu, and actually be working with the community leaders at the hub level, like we’ve been doing.” And “We’re getting the requests and the information and feedback, we’re sending it up, and we’re not getting any kind of response. When decisions are made in D.C. and elsewhere, we don’t know about it,” and “there’s been no plan to be like, okay, what are we going to do to assess, open up, and perhaps create some kind of ability for people to get in, either stand up a business or recover what they want. We don’t know that.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/08/17/hawaii-state-sen-we-need-fema-to-come-off-that-30000-foot-cloud-and-work-with-locals-were-getting-ignored/
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #153 on: August 18, 2023, 01:41:13 pm »
Jean-Pierre: FEMA ‘Doing Everything that They Can’ in Hawaii

On Thursday’s “CNN News Central,” White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre stated that FEMA is “doing everything that they can” in the wake of the fires in Hawaii. Jean-Pierre stated, “The president is going to continue to marshal a whole-of-government effort, approach, as he has done from day one, with having dozens of federal agencies and departments on the ground helping local partners and state partners get the assistance, the federal assistance that these survivors need. And this is incredibly important. This is something that the president takes very seriously. And you’ve heard from the FEMA administrator, there [are] more than 600 personnel — staffers on the ground. They’ve already provided $2.3 million of family assistance.”

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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #154 on: August 18, 2023, 01:43:37 pm »
But hey everybody we're still going to be voting Rat in '24 right?

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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #155 on: August 18, 2023, 02:08:42 pm »
Aug 17, 2023 - Economy & Business
Electricity companies face calamity as climate warms
Nathan Bomey

    Power companies and grid operators increasingly risk financial calamity from natural disasters, with challenges intensified by operational hurdles, soaring costs and the effects of climate change.

Why it matters: The utility industry was once thought of as virtually impervious to financial disaster — a surefire investment bound to deliver steady returns.

    Yet tragedies like the deadly Maui wildfires have cast a spotlight on whether power companies are doing enough to protect the public. They also face growing risks from a warming climate that's creating unpredictable weather.

Driving the news: At least 110 people are dead in Maui, an estimated 1,300 are missing and more than 2,200 structures have been destroyed or damaged.

    Meanwhile, the shares of Hawaiian Electric Industries have dived, with the company accused of mismanaging the crisis, and possibly worsening it.

The big picture: A warming climate, plus decades of underinvestment in the electrical grid, is thrusting utilities into turbulent territory:

    *HEI suddenly faces lawsuits over accusations that its downed power lines triggered the cataclysmic wildfires that destroyed the town of Lahaina.
    *Several Texas power companies — including the state's oldest and largest electricity cooperative, Brazos Electric Power Cooperative — filed for bankruptcy protection after a ruthless winter storm pummeled Texas in early 2021.
    *California utility giant PG&E filed for bankruptcy protection in 2019, after one of its a nearly century-old transmission lines sparked the Camp Fire that killed some 85 people.

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« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2023, 03:24:07 pm »
They also face growing risks from a warming climate that's creating unpredictable weather.  ***hair on fire
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #157 on: August 18, 2023, 03:28:25 pm »
Does anyone know of any charities besides the Red Cross to help?
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« Reply #158 on: August 18, 2023, 03:30:49 pm »
Does anyone know of any charities besides the Red Cross to help?
Samaritan's Purse is there. https://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/airlifting-relief-supplies-to-maui/
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #159 on: August 18, 2023, 03:35:44 pm »
Biden needs to declare his climate emergency. This has got to stop! ////00000////
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #160 on: August 18, 2023, 04:04:16 pm »
This looks worse by the day.  The fire progressed at 1 or 2 mph while the residents were stuck in their homes or a traffic jam, cooked alive, a short walk from the ocean.  We are 10 days out and their incompetent government still has not searched half of the burnt properties.

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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #161 on: August 18, 2023, 04:06:33 pm »
Does anyone know of any charities besides the Red Cross to help?

Mercury One is there too.

https://mercuryone.org/
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #162 on: August 18, 2023, 04:14:52 pm »
Mercury One is there too.

https://mercuryone.org/

Awesome.  Thanks for the info.
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #163 on: August 18, 2023, 04:19:16 pm »

https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1692037772817621319

For those wondering about this:

In 2021, the Obama Foundation spent over one-fourth of its $160 million in donations on expenses.  Here are the top five salaries it paid out:

VALERIE JARRETT, DIRECTOR/CEO
$581,305

DAVID SIMAS, PRESIDENT
$545,890

ROBBIN COHEN, EVP, OPC, TECH. & STRATEGY
$495,877

CLARISSA PETERSON, SVP, PEOPLE
$316,800

MICHAEL STRAUTMANIS, EVP, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT
$315,312





Here is a good place to go to do research on charities and find out which ones pay out the most for what you are giving your money for:
  https://www.charitynavigator.org/


Here's a list of 26 charities for Maui relief:  https://www.charitynavigator.org/discover-charities/where-to-give/hawaii-fires-2023/

You won't find the Obama Foundation on that list.
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #166 on: August 18, 2023, 04:24:35 pm »
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #167 on: August 18, 2023, 04:47:45 pm »
This looks worse by the day.  The fire progressed at 1 or 2 mph while the residents were stuck in their homes or a traffic jam, cooked alive, a short walk from the ocean.  We are 10 days out and their incompetent government still has not searched half of the burnt properties.

I wonder if part of the problem is they are relying on cadaver dogs and they don't have very many?
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« Reply #168 on: August 18, 2023, 04:58:23 pm »
The fact that there are realtors offering $$ for people's land when they've lost everything is disgusting and despicable.
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« Reply #169 on: August 18, 2023, 05:05:26 pm »
I wonder if part of the problem is they are relying on cadaver dogs and they don't have very many?

Isn't there some strict quarantine rule about bringing dogs to the island that applies to anyone not named Obama?
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #170 on: August 18, 2023, 05:16:54 pm »
Isn't there some strict quarantine rule about bringing dogs to the island that applies to anyone not named Obama?

I think that is to stop rabies from coming in and applies to all pets. Cadaver dogs probably have updated health records and are also under stricter control so some of the quarantine could be bypassed. I am only guessing.
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« Reply #171 on: August 18, 2023, 05:24:19 pm »
The fact that there are realtors offering $$ for people's land when they've lost everything is disgusting and despicable.

This last Wednesday I discovered a lot I own was up for sale (in another state) - and I didn't list it... I got it delisted but I still have to check nearly daily to see if any of my property is up "for sale"... The world is rapidly descending into criminal chaos.

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« Reply #172 on: August 18, 2023, 05:35:17 pm »
This last Wednesday I discovered a lot I own was up for sale (in another state) - and I didn't list it... I got it delisted but I still have to check nearly daily to see if any of my property is up "for sale"... The world is rapidly descending into criminal chaos.

I do the same thing; check the deed and title to make sure it's still in your name. 

Criminal chaos indeed!
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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #173 on: August 18, 2023, 05:41:33 pm »
This last Wednesday I discovered a lot I own was up for sale (in another state) - and I didn't list it... I got it delisted but I still have to check nearly daily to see if any of my property is up "for sale"... The world is rapidly descending into criminal chaos.

Make sure you check the deeds to your properties as well.  There is a growing problem with title fraud/theft where a thief fraudulently transfers title to property he doesn't own, and then either mortgages it or sells it and absconds with the proceeds.

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Re: Wildfires burning across Maui prompt evacuations
« Reply #174 on: August 18, 2023, 08:41:16 pm »
Mercury One:  https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/453929881

Samaritan's Purse:  https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/581437002

Thank you @Hoodat

I always try to check Charity Navigator before I send money to a. charity I never heard of before. I got a letter from a pet charity the other day asking for a donation and when I checked them out they had the lowest rating possible on Charity Finder. They did not get my money and instead I sent some to the local shelter.
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