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DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« on: August 06, 2023, 12:16:48 am »
DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sharply criticized his chief 2024 rival during a town hall in New Hampshire that aired Friday, telling the audience former President Donald Trump’s behavior could cause Republicans to lose.

“These insults are so phony, these insults are juvenile. That is not the way a great nation should be conducting itself. That is not the way the president of the United States should be conducting himself,” DeSantis said on WMUR’s “Conversation With the Candidate,” which was taped Tuesday.

DeSantis said at the town hall that he’s not going to insult somebody’s looks or dress and wouldn’t teach his kids to treat people like that.

“As Republicans, that will cause us to lose if we behave that way. There are millions of voters out there who do not like what Biden is doing to this country,” DeSantis added. “They do not like the direction the country is going in. But they aren’t going to sign up for a candidate who is behaving like that. So, let’s be better. Let’s look higher, and let’s set a good standard for our children to follow.”

While he acknowledged he was a “big supporter” of Trump, DeSantis called him out for running on failed promises from 2016, like eliminating the national debt, having Mexico pay for a border wall and draining the “swamp” in Washington, DC.

DeSantis said elsewhere Friday that the “theories” put out by Trump and his associates following the 2020 election were “unsubstantiated” and “did not prove to be true.”

“I’ve said many times, the election is what it is. All those theories that were put out, did not prove to be true,” DeSantis told reporters traveling on his “Never Back Down” bus tour in Iowa. “What I’ve also said is the way you conduct a good election that people have confidence in, you don’t change the rules in the middle of the game.”.............

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/05/politics/desantis-trump-2020-election-theories/index.html
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2023, 12:22:13 am »
He isn't wrong.  Despite what the rabid Trump supporters say. 
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2023, 12:32:03 am »
DeSantis is exactly right.  Trump lost independent voters in 2020 and sure as hell won’t be gaining them back in 2024.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2023, 12:37:29 am »
DeSantis is exactly right.  Trump lost independent voters in 2020 and sure as hell won’t be gaining them back in 2024.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2023, 12:38:02 am »
DeSantis is exactly right.  Trump lost independent voters in 2020 and sure as hell won’t be gaining them back in 2024.

And he's lost more than independents since 2020.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2023, 12:55:56 am »
Trump made a mockery of the campaign debates in '16 with his cheap shots and smear tactics. It was shameful.

Issues, backgrounds, accomplishments and voting records are what need to be debated.

Not to mention he went very soft on Hillary.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2023, 12:21:42 pm »
DeSantis is exactly right.  Trump lost independent voters in 2020 and sure as hell won’t be gaining them back in 2024.


His loss will be more significant in 2024.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2023, 12:27:28 pm »
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2023, 12:46:33 pm »
And he's lost more than independents since 2020.
He's losing many who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. His behavior,  unkept promises and age are just three factors.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2023, 06:37:52 pm »
And he's lost more than independents since 2020.

Trump's actually gained support among independents since 2020 ---- but, do carry on.

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2023, 06:38:56 pm »
He's losing many who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. His behavior,  unkept promises and age are just three factors.

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2023, 06:41:01 pm »
He's losing many who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. His behavior,  unkept promises and age are just three factors.

Yup.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2023, 06:43:16 pm »
He's losing many who voted for him in 2016 and 2020. His behavior,  unkept promises and age are just three factors.

Exactly.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2023, 06:54:30 pm »
Trump's actually gained support among independents since 2020 ---- but, do carry on.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2023, 06:57:42 pm »
:mauslaff:

Polls - about as useful as wheels on a fish.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2023, 06:58:52 pm »
"It's not the way the President of the United States should be conducting himself". (Video)


https://twitter.com/miguelifornia/status/1687661631587909632

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2023, 09:41:47 pm »
:mauslaff:

Polls - about as useful as wheels on a fish.

Polls in early 2022 showed independents favoring the GOP over Democrats. But once they got to the voting booth and evaluated the MAGA endorsed candidates, they voted Democrat

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/republicans-have-the-advantage-right-now-on-key-issues-and-midterm-elections


And

https://rollcall.com/2022/11/16/it-was-all-about-the-independents-again/

Let’s be honest. As long as Trump is in the picture, the GOP can look forward to several cycles of election losses.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2023, 12:13:57 pm »
Polls in early 2022 showed independents favoring the GOP over Democrats. But once they got to the voting booth and evaluated the MAGA endorsed candidates, they voted Democrat

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/republicans-have-the-advantage-right-now-on-key-issues-and-midterm-elections


And

https://rollcall.com/2022/11/16/it-was-all-about-the-independents-again/

Let’s be honest. As long as Trump is in the picture, the GOP can look forward to several cycles of election losses.

Which is exactly not what the country needs right now, more so than ever.  In other words, Trump is bad for the country, period.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2023, 12:24:06 pm »
Which is exactly not what the country needs right now, more so than ever.  In other words, Trump is bad for the country, period.

The vast majority of voters do not suffer from the malady that inflicts both Never Trumpers and Only Trumpers.

One group cannot see past his flaws; the other refuses to see them at all.

Many voters appear to view him as he actually is; they like some of what they see, dislike other things, and generally speaking would like to move on.

Move on to "who?" is the open question.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2023, 12:33:27 pm »
The vast majority of voters do not suffer from the malady that inflicts both Never Trumpers and Only Trumpers.

One group cannot see past his flaws; the other refuses to see them at all.

Many voters appear to view him as he actually is; they like some of what they see, dislike other things, and generally speaking would like to move on.

Move on to "who?" is the open question.

Good post

There is an opening for another candidate besides Biden or Trump.

But that  candidate has to get past their primary voters first

Judges, energy, policy, and the border are definitely areas that Trump got it right

Tariffs, spending and the debt, and the role of government in general, plus his conduct in office was what he got wrong and I think the last one is mainly why he’s so toxic to general election voters. I think people at large in this country do take the office of the presidency seriously. And Bidens scandals are probably what’s weighing heavily on his job approval rating, also
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2023, 12:36:09 pm »
The vast majority of voters do not suffer from the malady that inflicts both Never Trumpers and Only Trumpers.

One group cannot see past his flaws; the other refuses to see them at all.

Many voters appear to view him as he actually is; they like some of what they see, dislike other things, and generally speaking would like to move on.

Move on to "who?" is the open question.

What about those of us who voted for him in both 2016 and 2020, but have only become NeverTrump since then?   I mean, we pretty clearly recognized his positive aspects because we voted for him twice.


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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2023, 12:58:46 pm »
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2023, 01:17:39 pm »
What about those of us who voted for him in both 2016 and 2020, but have only become NeverTrump since then?   I mean, we pretty clearly recognized his positive aspects because we voted for him twice.

I voted for him, too. If he's the nominee, I will again.

But I'd prefer someone else. Someone who has a chance of winning.
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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2023, 02:02:55 pm »
I voted for him, too. If he's the nominee, I will again.

But I'd prefer someone else. Someone who has a chance of winning.

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Re: DeSantis: Republicans will lose if they behave like Trump
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