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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2024, 11:51:20 pm »


Frankly, I wasn't going to dignify this post...but I can't help myself sometimes, lol.

I think you mis-typed...didn't you mean that Hamas is rightfully known as first class liars.

Thanks for the question @berdie   There are repetitive first class liars on both sides.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2024, 11:52:40 pm »
Israel says no deal and plans to go into Rafah still on the table

The bombing has already begun.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #52 on: May 07, 2024, 12:07:06 am »
No Hamas doesn't want peace and what they did on Oct 7. and beyond was despicable and horrific.

Yes, Oct 7 was horrific.

But, here's a large part of the problem for Israel:  How would you answer the opinion being expressed by serious, nonconfrontational college students that after decades of occupation and control Hamas are freedom fighters @libertybele ?

Serious question.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #53 on: May 07, 2024, 12:19:25 am »
Yes, Oct 7 was horrific.

But, here's a large part of the problem for Israel:  How would you answer the opinion being expressed by serious, nonconfrontational college students that after decades of occupation and control Hamas are freedom fighters @libertybele ?

Serious question.

Serious...Nonconfrontational College Students?  That is a double oxymoron.
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #54 on: May 07, 2024, 12:23:12 am »
The bombing has already begun.

I posted that as the news was breaking on Fox...then on X...look at the time stamp..
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #55 on: May 07, 2024, 12:25:06 am »
Serious...Nonconfrontational College Students?  That is a double oxymoron.

Their ranks may be thinner than that of today's average college students, but they're the ones who will assume the reins of power in the blink of an eye ---- making it all the more important to address their opinions and concerns now.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2024, 12:25:44 am »
I posted that as the news was breaking on Fox...then on X...look at the time stamp..

Thanks, I missed it.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2024, 12:46:22 am »
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6:40 PM EDT

Hamas publishes the cease-fire proposal it agreed to

BEIRUT — Hamas has published a copy of the cease-fire and hostage release proposal that the militant group said it had agreed to on Monday.

The framework brought forward by Qatar and Egypt aims to bring a halt to seven months of war in Gaza. However, it’s unclear if Israel will agree to the terms.

The proposal outlines a phased release of Israeli hostages held in Gaza alongside the gradual withdrawal of Israeli troops from the entire enclave and ending with a “sustainable calm” or “permanent cessation of military and hostile operations.”

Israel has previously said it would not agree to either a full withdrawal of its forces or a permanent cease-fire as part of a hostage release deal.

The first stage would last 42 days and would involve a partial withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Gaza Strip and the release of about 33 hostages held in the territory, including the remaining Israeli women — both civilians and soldiers — as well as children, older adults and people who are ill.

Thirty Palestinian prisoners held in Israel would be released in exchange for each Israeli civilian hostage and 50 in exchange for each female soldier.

Palestinians displaced in Gaza would be allowed to return to their home neighborhoods during that time.

The parties would then negotiate the terms of the next stage, under which the remaining civilian men and soldiers would be released, while Israeli forces would withdraw from the rest of Gaza. This phase would be conditioned on achievement of a “sustainable calm.”

The final stage would involve exchange of the bodies of hostages who died in captivity and the beginning of a reconstruction plan for the enclave that would take place over three to five years “under the supervision of a number of countries and organizations, including: Egypt, Qatar and the United Nations.”

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2024, 01:26:58 am »
Their ranks may be thinner than that of today's average college students, but they're the ones who will assume the reins of power in the blink of an eye ---- making it all the more important to address their opinions and concerns now.

Their chants of "Death to America" makes their intent loud and clear.  They do NOT want peace.
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2024, 01:38:28 am »
Their chants of "Death to America" makes their intent loud and clear.  They do NOT want peace.

Any chance of you taking a crack at my question @libertybele ?   No worries if you don't  happy77

Yes, Oct 7 was horrific.

But, here's a large part of the problem for Israel:  How would you answer the opinion being expressed by serious, nonconfrontational college students that after decades of occupation and control Hamas are freedom fighters @libertybele ?

Serious question.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2024, 01:38:32 pm »
Israeli Officials Say U.S. Blindsided Them with Surprise Hamas ‘Agreement’

Israeli officials said Monday that Biden administration officials had secretly worked with mediators, without Israel’s knowledge, to craft a Hamas “agreement” to ceasefire terms in an attempt to deter an attack on Hamas in Rafah.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/05/07/israeli-officials-say-u-s-blindsided-them-with-surprise-hamas-agreement/
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2024, 01:51:12 pm »
Biden Co-Chair: Pausing Ammo Shipment to Israel Signals ‘Concerns’ About Rafah, Where Israel’s Following Rules

On Monday’s broadcast of “CNN This Morning,” Biden Campaign Co-Chair Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) said that Israel dropping leaflets warning civilians is “yet another example” “of the IDF continuing to follow the rules of war.” But the reported paused ammunition shipment to Israel “does signal that there are grave concerns on the part of many of us. It is a reminder that many have raised concerns about the conduct of what might be the last phase of this war in Gaza” in Rafah.

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/05/06/biden-co-chair-coons-pausing-ammo-shipment-to-israel-signals-concerns-about-rafah-where-israels-following-rules/
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2024, 02:45:35 pm »
Israeli Officials Say U.S. Blindsided Them with Surprise Hamas ‘Agreement’

Israeli officials said Monday that Biden administration officials had secretly worked with mediators, without Israel’s knowledge, to craft a Hamas “agreement” to ceasefire terms in an attempt to deter an attack on Hamas in Rafah.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/05/07/israeli-officials-say-u-s-blindsided-them-with-surprise-hamas-agreement/

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2024, 02:54:14 pm »
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https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1787694870494052829

    Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."

    Why it matters: The episode has created deep disappointment and suspicion among senior Israeli officials regarding the U.S. role in the hostage deal talks and could negatively influence the negotiations going forward.

    The U.S. official said "this is an extremely difficult process with negotiations conducted through intermediaries in Doha and Cairo."

    He added that the U.S. believes Israel has engaged in the talks in good faith and that Israel's late April proposal was "the most forward leaning proposal to date. To secure a ceasefire, Hamas simply needs to release hostages. It's all mapped out."

    The official also said the Biden administration sees Hamas' response as a counter-proposal and not as a new proposal.

    But it's the latest episode to deepen tensions between the Biden administration and Israeli leaders over the war in Gaza…

    […]

    CIA director Bill Burns was in Cairo and Doha when the talks were taking place and weighed in with the Egyptians and the Qataris, according to sources familiar with the talks.

    The CIA declined to comment.

    Behind the scenes: Three Israeli officials said the Hamas announcement on Monday surprised the Israeli government and that Israel didn't receive the text of the groups response from the mediators until an hour after Hamas released its statement.

    […]

    The officials claimed CIA director Bill Burns and other Biden administration officials who are involved in the negotiations knew about the new proposal but didn't tell Israel.

    The Israeli officials also said the last touches on the proposal were made on Monday morning in Doha with the Biden administration's knowledge.

    On Monday morning, Burns spoke on the phone with Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant, a source with knowledge of the call said. But when Hamas released its statement the Israeli minister was also surprised.

    Two Israeli officials said the feeling is that "Israel got played" by the U.S. and the mediators who drafted "a new deal" and weren't transparent about it.


It just needs to be said at this point: What a ‘s**tshow.’

When you have someone who isn’t in control, this is what happens. When you have a president who’s been appallingly wrong on foreign policy for 40 years, this is what you get. When you have an entire administration filled with incompetents and hacks and staffed with equally poor support staff, this happens. The Biden people also think they’re smarter than everyone else, which blew up in their faces. Everyone, behold the wreckage. The Obama people were no better, too.

What the fresh hell is this? And Biden has the gall to think Israel should listen to them about Rafah. They can’t even get a hostage negotiation deal executed correctly.

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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2024, 03:28:48 pm »
Biden is in league with Hamas, perhaps. Islamic terrorists, murderers, rapists.  **nononono*
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Re: IDF Urges Rafah Evacuations; Drops Flyers in Gaza; Attack Imminent
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2024, 03:37:19 pm »
Biden is in league with Hamas, perhaps. Islamic terrorists, murderers, rapists.  **nononono*

The man's hubris and extreme fear of the power of Barack Obama's blackmail machine is what has caused the current status quo...a U.S. President terrified of losing everything physical AND everything abstract for the entire Biden bloodline and legacy.

A real man would drop to his knees and confess everything...all that's necessary to save this Republic as Founded.

Instead he chose to betray us.
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