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Sam Bankman-Fried gives $93 Million of stolen money to Democrats and gets the charges dropped.

56-year-old pool guy for Trump gets indicted for draining the F'n pool.

All those who think we have a functioning system of justice in this country please raise your hand.
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Wow.  So now we're going to shut down the entire federal judiciary, just for the sake of Donald Trump and his ego.  Wow.  The voters are really going to "reward" the republicans for that move.

Look how the Republicans are being rewarded for January 6 and “election denialism”
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Sam Bankman-Fried gives $93 Million of stolen money to Democrats and gets the charges dropped.

56-year-old pool guy for Trump gets indicted for draining the F'n pool.

All those who think we have a functioning system of justice in this country please raise your hand.


Agreed.  But it will take a long-term strategic campaign to get things back to a more even field; throwing a spat because Trump has got himself caught in the machinery will not accomplish that goal.

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Sam Bankman-Fried gives $93 Million of stolen money to Democrats and gets the charges dropped.

56-year-old pool guy for Trump gets indicted for draining the F'n pool.

All those who think we have a functioning system of justice in this country please raise your hand.


We don’t. And you are right. The laws are being lopsidedly applied.

But Donald Trump is not innocent of breaking laws just because Trump supporters say so no more than he’s guilty just because his detractors do. He is innocent until proven guilty. Those charging him have to prove, beyond any doubt, laws were broken

We need massive reforms in all of these agencies. They have been corrupted probably beyond repair. But is the concept of “bullet box over ballot box” really going to attract voters behind the cause?
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We don’t. And you are right. The laws are being lopsidedly applied.

But Donald Trump is not innocent of breaking laws just because Trump supporters say so no more than he’s guilty just because his detractors do. He is innocent until proven guilty. Those charging him have to prove, beyond any doubt, laws were broken

We need massive reforms in all of these agencies. They have been corrupted probably beyond repair. But is the concept of “bullet box over ballot box” really going to attract voters behind the cause?

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We don’t. And you are right. The laws are being lopsidedly applied.

But Donald Trump is not innocent of breaking laws just because Trump supporters say so no more than he’s guilty just because his detractors do. He is innocent until proven guilty. Those charging him have to prove, beyond any doubt, laws were broken

We need massive reforms in all of these agencies. They have been corrupted probably beyond repair. But is the concept of “bullet box over ballot box” really going to attract voters behind the cause?

The witch hunts against Trump have been obvious from Russian collusion to impeachments and now the 37 felony charges; charges that other presidents have gotten away with and not even considered.

Without a doubt massive reforms need to be made but they aren't going to be made because 'they' are guarding their own corruption. Corruption that goes back several administrations ago.  To bring down one person or make one reform would have a domino effect.

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The witch hunts against Trump have been obvious from Russian collusion to impeachments and now the 37 felony charges; charges that other presidents have gotten away with and not even considered.

Without a doubt massive reforms need to be made but they aren't going to be made because 'they' are guarding their own corruption. Corruption that goes back several administrations ago.  To bring down one person or make one reform would have a domino effect.

And it won’t be easy. Or quick.
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And it won’t be easy. Or quick.

And the time for this to be accomplished before we go over the cliff is going to come from...?
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Quote from: Bigun link=topic=507166.msg2875886#msg2875886 :shrug: date=1690581090
And the time for this to be accomplished before we go over the cliff is going to come from...?

It will not come from Donald Trump. That I can promise. Who, what, and when… :shrug:

But when I hear some folks talk so cavalier about shooting and Civil War, they haven’t thought what they’re suggesting through

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But when I hear some folks talk so cavalier about shooting and Civil War, they haven’t thought what they’re suggesting through
When does that, God forbid, become inevitable?
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It will not come from Donald Trump. That I can promise. Who, what, and when… :shrug:

But when I hear some folks talk so cavalier about shooting and Civil War, they haven’t thought what they’re suggesting through

Exactly where do you think we are headed?  Peacefulness?? While elections are stolen and our LEO are targets?  They are pushing for globalization, going green, controlling what we do and what we eat?

I know you don't agree, but things aren't going to get resolved at the ballot box especially when the DEMS are so adept at stealing elections.

The last thing I want is shooting, Civil War and chaos. Definitely not. What are you going to do if it gets to the point that they come for YOU?

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When does that, God forbid, become inevitable?

It would probably happen in a total societal collapse

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It would probably happen in a total societal collapse

And you don't think that is closer than it has ever been?
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Exactly where do you think we are headed?  Peacefulness?? While elections are stolen and our LEO are targets?  They are pushing for globalization, going green, controlling what we do and what we eat?

I know you don't agree, but things aren't going to get resolved at the ballot box especially when the DEMS are so adept at stealing elections.

The last thing I want is shooting, Civil War and chaos. Definitely not. What are you going to do if it gets to the point that they come for YOU?

What makes you confident that the left wouldn’t be the winners in a civil war?

People have this idealized picture in their minds that 2023 would be like 1776. First, the weaponry is more destructive. And, unlike our first Civil War, they will be no attempts at reconciliation. They’ll clamp down on you hard.

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bilo predicts:
"We are moving at great neck speed towards a national divorce and the persecution of Trump is a contributing factor. "

Hmmmm...
Perhaps Mr. Trump will be invited to become the first president of the Heartland Republic of America when it comes about...

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Civil war, national divorce are not fallback positions.  You as instigators will be in the small minority.  The banks will freeze your assets, the police/military will do as their masters tell them, and the libs will just move into your home and adopt your pets.  Would it not be wiser to find representatives who are capable of selling your ideology to 51% rather than placing literally all your chips on a proven loser.
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Civil war, national divorce are not fallback positions.  You as instigators will be in the small minority.  The banks will freeze your assets, the police/military will do as their masters tell them, and the libs will just move into your home and adopt your pets.  Would it not be wiser to find representatives who are capable of selling your ideology to 51% rather than placing literally all your chips on a proven loser.

Over the years, we need to vet reform minded conservatives, who can express to the public the issues with these agencies and elections without indulging Donald Trump’s post 2020 election tantrums

But in the meantime, patience is required


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Over the years, we need to vet reform minded conservatives, who can express to the public the issues with these agencies and elections without indulging Donald Trump’s post 2020 election tantrums

But in the meantime, patience is required

You're preaching TEA Party, and I heartily agree.

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What makes you confident that the left wouldn’t be the winners in a civil war?

People have this idealized picture in their minds that 2023 would be like 1776. First, the weaponry is more destructive. And, unlike our first Civil War, they will be no attempts at reconciliation. They’ll clamp down on you hard.
I think you are misunderstanding @LMAO   I am not in anyway advocating a Civil War but that is where I see this country headed unless things change.

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I think you are misunderstanding @LMAO   I am not in anyway advocating a Civil War

My reply to you didn’t mean to come across that I was suggesting that you specifically are

But I have seen it advocated over the years. By both sides.



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Civil war, national divorce are not fallback positions.  You as instigators will be in the small minority.  The banks will freeze your assets, the police/military will do as their masters tell them

And those actions will have public support if secession or violence is attempted

Americans don’t want their country to become Somalia
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The Pubs talk a good game about ending the persecution of Trump and the two tiered justice system, but they don't do anything except talk.

It's surprising to me how many conservatives are going along with the persecution of Trump. I won't guess at their motivations, but the failure to see their complicit support is empowering the very totalitarian fascists they claim to oppose.

We are moving at great neck speed towards a national divorce and the persecution of Trump is a contributing factor.

What can they do though?

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What makes you confident that the left wouldn’t be the winners in a civil war?

This map.

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This map.



Meaningless. Absolutely 100% meaningless.

First off, those blue areas have a much higher concentration of people and higher populations. Secondly, big financial institutions tend to be in blue areas. Funds for such a rebellion would be frozen instantly. Thirdly, leftist billionaires would make sure that leftist groups fighting you would be well financed. And, the government is not going to allow people to destabilized the country just because they’re upset the way Donald Trump is being treated. And the government squashing any type of rebellion like that would have support of the public.

And, after the government squashes such rebellion, it would have an excuse to suspend civil liberties
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Civil war, national divorce are not fallback positions.  You as instigators will be in the small minority.

Donald Trump has nowhere near the widespread level of respect necessary to be the inspiration for an actual civil war. There simply will not be enough people who believe he is worth it.

The best evidence of that is what didn't happen on January 6th. Even some of Trump's most ardent supporters here claim that the people who were most willing to be physical and violent in that riot weren't actually Trump supporters, but feds or antifa in disguise.

So then where were all these loyalist Trump supporters willing to start a civil war to protect the election from being stolen?  They had their moment, and they didn't show.