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 July 26, 2023 1:25pm EDT
Hunter Biden pleads 'not guilty' as plea deal falls apart during Delaware court appearance
DOJ prosecutors said Hunter Biden is currently under investigation

By Brooke Singman , Jake Gibson | Fox News

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Meanwhile, the judge apologized to Hunter Biden near the end of the hearing.

"Mr. Biden, I know you want to get this over with, and I’m sorry," Noreika said. "But I need to get more information to do Justice as I’m required to do."

The judge asked for briefings from both sides, but did not set a firm date.

Noreika questioned Hunter Biden on his sobriety, and on his business dealings--specifically money that he received from foreign business partners, like Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings and his joint-venture with Chinese energy firm CEFC.

As Hunter Biden pleaded not guilty, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre delivered a statement at the beginning of the daily briefing.

"Hunter Biden is a private citizen, and this was a personal matter for him. As we have said, the president, the first lady, they love their son and they support him as he continues to rebuild his life," Jean-Pierre said. "This case was handled independently, as all of you know, by the Justice Department under the leadership of a prosecutor appointed by the former president, President Trump."

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BREAKING: Under court-ordered "conditions of release," Hunter Biden must notify the court of any "change of residence" -- and "must not violate federal, state or local law while on release"

3:08 PM · Jul 26, 2023

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OK, STOOOOOOOOOOOOPID question ... does anyone believe that the prosecution team that tried to push through this corrupt plea deal will actually prosecute Hunter, vigorously, and not take dives at every turn in the proceedings?

No.

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Hunter Biden’s conditions of release include: he must not consume alcohol or prohibited drugs, or possess a firearm, must submit to random drug tests as required, must actively seek employment and not violate any laws.
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https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1684280778744553473
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https://twitter.com/mirandadevine/status/1684280778744553473

Might as well just stick him in cell, then, 'cause he isn't going to be able to stick to any of those.

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The new "Conditions of Release" for Hunter Biden have just hit the docket, signed by Judge Maryellen Noreika, who shelved Hunter's plea deal today

If Hunter does NOT comply with any part of the order, he could be immediately arrested

HUNTER IS REQUIRED TO:

1) NOT possess a firearm
2) NOT use or possess any controlled substances (including marijuana) unless prescribed
3) Submit to full federal supervision
4) NO use of alcohol AT ALL
5) Seek active employment
6) Submit to testing for prohibited substances
7) Participate in substance abuse therapy

PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING COULD INCLUDE:

1) Immediate issuance of an arrest warrant
2) Revocation of release
3) Forfeiture of bond
4) Prosecution for contempt of court





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Here it is in an nutshell

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Hunter Biden simple recap:

Plea deal contained secret provision to provide Hunter w/legal immunity for all future federal charges currently under investigation

Judge said “wtf is this?”

DOJ & Defense: “well, uhh..umm”

Judge: Never seen that before. No deal. How do you plead now?

Hunter: Not guilty

Hunter’s now going to trial for his crimes
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Exactly.  He is self-employed; he's an artist!  *****rollingeyes*****
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The judge in Delaware did something not a single judge in DC has done in standing up to Jack Smith; she refused to rubber stamp the Biden-Garland DOJ's steamrollering over our justice system.  The corruption is palpable.  And she wanted no part of it.  And every federal judge participating in this tyranny, particularly in DC, will long be remembered as disgraceful partisans who defied their obligation to do justice and the Constitution.
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Seems like they need a dog catcher at the White House.

They could have Hunter be in charge of controlling their German Shepherd who has bitten members of the SS several times. 
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The judge in Delaware did something not a single judge in DC has done in standing up to Jack Smith; she refused to rubber stamp the Biden-Garland DOJ's steamrollering over our justice system.  The corruption is palpable.  And she wanted no part of it.  And every federal judge participating in this tyranny, particularly in DC, will long be remembered as disgraceful partisans who defied their obligation to do justice and the Constitution.
5:21 PM · Jul 26, 2023

Let's see how long she remains steadfast in her ruling. I have my doubts.  She's already apologized.
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Let's see how long she remains steadfast in her ruling. I have my doubts.  She's already apologized.

She may be reluctant when the doxing begins..

That apology is what I consider a non-apology...like sorry this is taking so long..lol
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Hunter Biden Team Rejected Plea Deal After Prosecutors Said It Didn’t Include FARA Immunity

Hunter Biden’s defense team rejected a plea deal agreement that did not include immunity from future potential charges related to acting as a foreign agent.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/26/hunter-biden-team-rejected-plea-deal-after-prosecutors-said-it-didnt-include-fara-immunity/
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Based on conversations with people who were in the courtroom today, and my experience as a former federal prosecutor, I think I know the full story of what happened with the Hunter Biden plea agreement blow-up this morning.

Bear with me, because this is a little complicated:

Typically, if the Government is offering to a defendant that it will either drop charges or decline to bring new charges in return for the defendant's guilty plea, the plea is structured under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11(c)(1)(A).  An agreement not to prosecute Hunter for FARA violations or other crimes in return for his pleading guilty to the tax misdemeanors, for example, would usually be a (c)(1)(A) plea.  This is open, transparent, subject to judicial approval, etc.

In Hunter's case, according to what folks in the courtroom have told me, Hunter's plea was structured under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 11(c)(1)(B), which is usually just a plea in return for a joint sentencing recommendation only, and contained no information on its face about other potential charges, and contained no clear agreement by DOJ to forego prosecution of other charges.

Instead, DOJ and Hunter's lawyers effectively hid that part of the agreement in what was publicly described as a pretrial diversion agreement relating to a § 922(g)(3) gun charge against Hunter for being a drug user in possession of a firearm.

That pretrial diversion agreement as written was actually MUCH broader than just the gun charge. If Hunter were to complete probation, the pretrial diversion agreement prevented DOJ from ever bringing charges against Hunter for any crimes relating to the offense conduct discussed in the plea agreement, which was purposely written to include his foreign influence peddling operations in China and elsewhere.

So they put the facts in the plea agreement, but put their non-prosecution agreement in the pretrial diversion agreement, effectively hiding the full scope of what DOJ was offering and Hunter was obtaining through these proceedings.  Hunter's upside from this deal was vast immunity from further prosecution if he finished a couple years of probation, and the public wouldn't be any the wiser because none of this was clearly stated on the face of the plea agreement, as would normally be the case.

Judge Noreika smelled a rat. She understood that the lawyers were trying to paint her into a corner and hide the ball. Instead, she backed DOJ and Hunter's lawyers into a corner by pulling all the details out into the open and then indicating that she wasn't going to approve a deal as broad as what she had discovered. 

DOJ, attempting to save face and save its case, then stated on the record that the investigation into Hunter was ongoing and that Hunter remained susceptible to prosecution under FARA. Hunter's lawyers exploded. They clearly believed that FARA was covered under the deal, because as written, the pretrial diversion agreement language was broad enough to cover it. They blew up the deal, Hunter pled not guilty, and that's the current state of play.

And so here we are. Hunter's lawyers and DOJ are going to go off and try to pull together a new set of agreements, likely narrower, to satisfy Judge Noreika. Fortunately, I doubt if FARA or any charges related to Hunter's foreign influence peddling will be included, which leaves open the possibility of further investigations leading to further prosecutions.
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Is there any real possibility  of additional charges coming out of this court case?

I suspect there is very little change of Hunter pleading guilty to any felonies,and surely there are felony charges pending for influence peddling and other crimes. What are the chances of any  felonies being prosecuted once the Biden Crime Family is out of office,given the FACT that the DNC is likely  to  use every resource it has to prevent this from happening because at this point there seems to be no way of escaping the fact that the DNC knew all about this and did nothing to stop it.

Wouldn't it be interesting if this case were still open if/when Trump is sworn into office,and Hunter was offered a deal to testify  against prominent DNC members who  knew,but  remained quiet about felonies that were committed because his father was President?

Could a conspiracy charge be brought forward and have any chance of being brought to court?

BTW,what would be the reaction of you  Trump haters if this did happen?
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Copy of Hunter Biden plea agreement in @politico shows Kevin Morris made these payments to IRS for Biden's taxes:
2016  $  45,661
2017  $955,800
2018  $956,632
2019  $197,372
Total $2,155,465. Does not include some penalties/interest, which Morris paid.
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POLITICO has obtained the documents laying out the proposed plea deal that a federal judge blocked on Wednesday.
By Betsy Woodruff Swan
07/26/2023 10:27 PM EDT

Hunter Biden’s plea deal is on hold after a judge raised questions Wednesday about the proposed plea agreement and a related agreement known as a pretrial diversion program.

Lawyers detailed aspects of the proposed deal in court, but the documents themselves have not been published on the court’s docket. POLITICO obtained them and is publishing them here.  ...
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/26/proposed-hunter-biden-plea-agreement-00108426
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Copy of Hunter Biden plea agreement in @politico shows Kevin Morris made these payments to IRS for Biden's taxes:
2016  $  45,661
2017  $955,800
2018  $956,632
2019  $197,372
Total $2,155,465. Does not include some penalties/interest, which Morris paid.https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/26/proposed-hunter-biden-plea-agreement-00108426

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I am now a lawyur and doan even play one on teebee,but HOW  can someone pay someone else's taxes unless they are their legal representatives?

In addition,IF they are the legal representatives of someone who has been committing felonies and indications are that they were helping to cover these felonies up,can they  also be charged as an accomplice?
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