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Taxes were at the root of the American Revolution,and the other stuff fell into place as it evolved.

The whole "taxation without representation" thing.

Taxes were the last straw ---- the trigger, not the cause.

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The TEA Party killed itself

I wouldn't know.  McConnell sabotaged it before anybody could see what they could do, then he bragged and bragged about it. 

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I wouldn't know.  McConnell sabotaged it before anybody could see what they could do, then he bragged and bragged about it. 

I know you think the country is liberal and loves Biteme, but I demure.

They forced sequestration cuts in 2011. And the TEA Party had much better electoral success in the 2010 and 2014 midterms than the GOP has had recently even though Barack Obama did get reelected in 2012
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Taxes were the last straw ---- the trigger, not the cause.

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No... I believe gun confiscation was the big bang... which they tried to get done AFTER the high taxes.

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No... I believe gun confiscation was the big bang... which they tried to get done AFTER the high taxes.

And yet, it's mentioned nowhere  :shrug:




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And yet, it's mentioned nowhere  :shrug:

Go read some books.  happy77

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Go read some books.  happy77

Seemed to me there was a warning...one or two lamps in a tower....

I forget.
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Seemed to me there was a warning...one or two lamps in a tower....

I forget.

What sparked the whole enchilada was gun laws promoting confiscation through warrantless searches, blockading harbors to stop guns from coming in.. All after the Boston Tea Party. I do believe there was a famous massacre at a tavern that popped it off, but I don't remember it that finely (it's been a while since I read about the Revolutionary war).

But it sure as hell tells you where that 2nd Amendment came from.  happy77
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Seemed to me there was a warning...one or two lamps in a tower....I forget.

The Boston Tea Party on December 16, 1773 was the trigger, setting it all in motion ....

The First Continental Congress convened on Sep 5, 1774 in response to the British Parliament's passage of the Intolerable Acts (called the Coercive Acts in England), which aimed to punish Massachusetts for the Boston Tea Party.

The First Continental Congress adjourned on Oct 22 1774. Delegates wanted time to see if the Declaration of Rights and the boycott of British goods would change British policy.  In the event that the Intolerable Acts were not lifted, the Congress decided to meet again.

May 1775. a month after Lexington and Concord in Massachusetts, the Second Continental Congress convened, the Continental Army was established.and the Congress began to seriously debate independence as the king proclaimed they were in open revolt and would hang.

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That large part doesn't include you.

I was referring to reactions to polls that came out last week showing that Trump was strongest among voters without a college degree.  I saw a lot of "those are the Real Americans" kind of stuff coming from a bunch of Trump people - As if education makes you less of a "real" American.

Not saying that's every Trump supporter - just that I've seen that argument made on multiple occasions at TOS and elsewhere.

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It definitely doesn't include me,although I admit to not being impressed by people with liberal arts degrees.
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Thanks for the History brushup, @Right_in_Virginia !
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The lanterns in the steeple of Boston's Old North Church were for Paul Revere and William Dawes to warn the residents of Lexington and Concord that the British were coming to confiscate the Massachusetts' militia's store of arms in Concord (via Lexington and Menotomy (now Arlington)) ...

... this is commemorated every year as the Massachusetts State Holidy, Patriots Day.

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They forced sequestration cuts in 2011. And the TEA Party had much better electoral success in the 2010 and 2014 midterms than the GOP has had recently even though Barack Obama did get reelected in 2012
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The issue with the Tea Party is that Tea Party candidates can be really successful in some districts.  The problem is that they were simply too conservative to win in a great many others, which is why it was a House rather than Senate phenomenon.

That caused a lot of tension between Tea Partiers who (correctly, in my opinion) thought the country needed to be more aligned with them, and pragmatists who thought it would end up losing the GOP seats, and replacing them with more leftist Democrats (also correct, in my opinion).

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It definitely doesn't include me,although I admit to not being impressed by people with liberal arts degrees.

Since the vast majority of those departments are now leftist, I'd agree.  It wasn't always that way, but it has been trending there for many decades.

I went to a school as conservative as they come (at the time), and probably a good half of my history/literature professors leaned left.

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Those without college degrees are probaly the most negatively effected by Globalism, and feel left out, left behind, abandoned, forgotten, and ignored.

Hillary Clinton didn't do herself and the Dems any favors by labeling traditional working class folk as "deplorables."  That only confirmed the suspicion that elites have contempt for their fellow, less-privilged Americans.

Affirmative action for college admissions should consider if a person is the first in their family to attend colllege.

My wife's relatives have been getting college educations for at least four generations.

Me, my siblings, and my cousins were the first generation of our family to attend college.  Some finshed, some didn't.
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Since the vast majority of those departments are now leftist, I'd agree.  It wasn't always that way, but it has been trending there for many decades.

I went to a school as conservative as they come (at the time), and probably a good half of my history/literature professors leaned left.

I went to both a public and private university

I had one professor in the public university that was to the left of Mao. I also had a Sociology professor who was capital “L” libertarian

When I transferred to the private college, I found most of those professors apolitical. But most of those professors were nuns
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It definitely doesn't include me,although I admit to not being impressed by people with liberal arts degrees.

I think you are referring to diploma mill degree holders.  It's tangential to the discussion, but conservatives all but guaranteed the replacement of western civilization when they abandoned the liberal arts. 

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I think you are referring to diploma mill degree holders.  It's tangential to the discussion, but conservatives all but guaranteed the replacement of western civilization when they abandoned the liberal arts.

That is 100% true.

The Founders almost exclusively would have been considered students of the "liberal arts".   It's the particular things that are studied that cause the problems.

Of course, there is the added factor of government-sponsored education that leads far too many people to get those kind of degrees than are actually needed.

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In West Virginia, for example, Daines is backing Gov. Jim Justice (R) as he runs against fellow Republican Rep. Alex Mooney in the Senate primary. They’re both vying for the seat held by Democrat incumbent Sen. Joe Manchin, who hasn’t said whether he’s running for reelection.
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The issue with the Tea Party is that Tea Party candidates can be really successful in some districts.  The problem is that they were simply too conservative to win in a great many others, which is why it was a House rather than Senate phenomenon.

That caused a lot of tension between Tea Partiers who (correctly, in my opinion) thought the country needed to be more aligned with them, and pragmatists who thought it would end up losing the GOP seats, and replacing them with more leftist Democrats (also correct, in my opinion).

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I think you are referring to diploma mill degree holders.  It's tangential to the discussion, but conservatives all but guaranteed the replacement of western civilization when they abandoned the liberal arts.

@cato potatoe

I am not sure I understand what you mean. Can you clarify it a little/dumb it down  so I can understand it?
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That is 100% true.

The Founders almost exclusively would have been considered students of the "liberal arts".   It's the particular things that are studied that cause the problems.

Of course, there is the added factor of government-sponsored education that leads far too many people to get those kind of degrees than are actually needed.

The seven liberal arts are exactly the same as the occult seven sacred sciences... Put that in your pipe and smoke it for a while...

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The Boston Tea Party on December 16, 1773 was the trigger, setting it all in motion ....

The First Continental Congress convened on Sep 5, 1774 in response to the British Parliament's passage of the Intolerable Acts (called the Coercive Acts in England), which aimed to punish Massachusetts for the Boston Tea Party.

The First Continental Congress adjourned on Oct 22 1774. Delegates wanted time to see if the Declaration of Rights and the boycott of British goods would change British policy.  In the event that the Intolerable Acts were not lifted, the Congress decided to meet again.

May 1775. a month after Lexington and Concord in Massachusetts, the Second Continental Congress convened, the Continental Army was established.and the Congress began to seriously debate independence as the king proclaimed they were in open revolt and would hang.

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and just what were those importable acts, @Right_in_Virginia , hmmm?