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I think Trump himself already has answered that one on behalf of his supporters:

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and I wouldn't lose voters"

Those people would defend literally anything he says or does.


And that’s just the way it is. Every candidate has their true unquestioning believers.  Maybe Trump didn’t mean for it to come across as if he was sympathetic to the governing style of Xi but it sure does come across that way.

However, this is his history.
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Is it such a problem for Trump supporters to admit that his mouth is a problem/flaw in the guy?

Most Trump supporters are bonded to him emotionally.  As such, they have built-in excuses for his many flaws.

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Guilty as charged.  But if you can find that hint of a shred of where Trump criticized Xi Jinping's repression in his comments, please do.

I think we've all heard Presidents of (usually) both parties criticize repressive regimes for a long time.  That's what we're used to hearing our President's standing against.  Even if it is a pseudo-ally like Saudi Arabia, we'll at least mumble apologetically for overlooking their human rights record.  We certain don't praise tendencies towards repression.

When I read the headline, I figured it could not possibly be a direct quote.  There's just no way an American President would ever state his admiration for a foreign dictator because he ruled with an "iron fist".  I thought someone had to have paraphrased badly or just made it up.

Turns out that's exactly what Trump said, and that's just stunning to me.

When I read the full quote my take is that despite Xi's brilliance, perfection, and iron fist Trump still has Xi's number. I guess I'm supposed to believe calling Xi  a dictator and sending kowtowing minions in the wake is a better way.  :shrug:
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Is it such a problem for Trump supporters to admit that his mouth is a problem/flaw in the guy?

It is well-known that communication is a two-way street.  Trump's cadre of über-fans appear to believe that no matter what he says, it must be taken to mean something entirely positive or it is the sole fault of the receiver.
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When I read the full quote my take is that despite Xi's brilliance, perfection, and iron fist Trump still has Xi's number. I guess I'm supposed to believe calling Xi  a dictator and sending kowtowing minions in the wake is a better way.  :shrug:

When did Reagan praise any dictator? And Reagan brought down the soviet empire by calling it what it was.

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When did Reagan praise any dictator? And Reagan brought down the soviet empire by calling it what it was.

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It is well-known that communication is a two-way street.  Trump's cadre of über-fans appear to believe that no matter what he says, it must be taken to mean something entirely positive or it is the sole fault of the receiver.

Yes... it's a component of his masterful 8-dimensional chess strategy, to hear the MAGAs tell it. 

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When did Reagan praise any dictator? And Reagan brought down the soviet empire by calling it what it was.

In 1988, a reporter asked Reagan about his prior statement regarding the Soviet Union being an "evil empire" and whether he still stood by it. He said that was no longer the case, adding, "That was another time, another era." When asked whether he and Gorbachev were friends, he said, "Yes,"

https://www.grunge.com/987861/the-truth-about-mikhail-gorbachev-and-ronald-reagans-relationship/

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In 1988, a reporter asked Reagan about his prior statement regarding the Soviet Union being an "evil empire" and whether he still stood by it. He said that was no longer the case, adding, "That was another time, another era." When asked whether he and Gorbachev were friends, he said, "Yes,"

https://www.grunge.com/987861/the-truth-about-mikhail-gorbachev-and-ronald-reagans-relationship/

Reagan had first called the Soviet Union the "Evil Empire" in a 1982 speech before the House of Commons, and again in a 1983 speech.  At that time, Brezhnev was still leading the Soviet Union, and they were still sending more and more troops into Afghanistan and fomenting trouble elsewhere in the world.

The 1988 statement came at a summit in Moscow between Reagan and Gorbachev (two Chairmen after Brezhnev), after the Soviet Union had actually begun the withdrawal from Afghanistan two weeks before, and after Gorbachev had promised more concessions on nuclear weapons and the START talks.  In other words, Reagan changed his behavior towards the Soviet Union when the Soviet Union's own behavior had changed, and when they had a new leader who wasn't as intent on expansionism.  His judgment of Gorbachev later was proved 100% correct when Gorbachev presided over/permitted the non-violent dismantling of both the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union itself.

Xi JinPing is the exact same guy who has been ordering provocations against Taiwan and U.S. naval assets in the Pacific.  He's the same guy who gave us Covid, lied about it, and under whose leadership China is still engaged in wholesale, government-directed theft of our technology.  He's an aggressive and expansionistic Chinese leader who is becoming worse rather than better.
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Reagan had first called the Soviet Union the "Evil Empire" in a 1982 speech before the House of Commons, and again in a 1983 speech.  At that time, Brezhnev was still leading the Soviet Union, and they were still sending more and more troops into Afghanistan and fomenting trouble elsewhere in the world.

The 1988 statement came at a summit in Moscow between Reagan and Gorbachev (two Chairman after Brezhnev), after the Soviet Union had actually begun the withdrawal from Afghanistan two weeks before, and after Gorbachev had promised more concessions on nuclear weapons and the START talks.  In other words, Reagan changed his behavior towards the Soviet Union when the Soviet Union's own behavior had changed, and when they had a new leader who wasn't as intent on expansionism.  His judgment of Gorbachev later was proved 100% correct when Gorbachev presided over/permitted the dismantling of both the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union itself.

Xi JinPing is the exact same guy who has been ordering provocations against Taiwan and U.S. naval assets in the Pacific.  He's the same guy who gave us Covid, lied about it, and under whose leadership China is still engaged in wholesale, government-directed theft of our technology.  He's an aggressive and expansionistic Chinese leader who is becoming worse rather than better.

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Trump had a fairly aggressive anti-China policy that, if anything, would be more aggressive if he was still POTUS . Any of Xi's becoming worse should be laid at Biden's feet.
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Why do you insist the problem is Trump's @Weird Tolkienish Figure ?   Not everyone has a problem with his words.

Well clearly you do since you felt compelled to lie about what Trump said.
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Well clearly you do since you felt compelled to lie about what Trump said.

Kind of hard to spin "we love each other."   :beer:

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Kind of hard to spin "we love each other."   :beer:

This isn't  the first time he expressed some admiration for the governing style of hardline dictators.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin/index.html
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