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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2023, 07:45:33 am »
   The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life, great leader.

Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe:  Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin.  https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.

HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020,  Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.

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June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.


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American Medical Association calls for ‘immediate end’ to use of ivermectin for COVID-19
The Hill,  Sep 2, 2021

The AMA, the country’s largest doctors group, is now joining in warning against use of the drug, joining the Food and Drug Administration and the CDC. 

“We are alarmed by reports that outpatient prescribing for and dispensing of ivermectin have increased 24-fold since before the pandemic and increased exponentially over the past few months,” the AMA said in a statement, joined by the American Pharmacists Association and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists. “As such, we are calling for an immediate end to the prescribing, dispensing, and use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial.”

"Use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 has been demonstrated to be harmful to patients,” the groups said. “Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline.”

Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven drugs, people should get vaccinated.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/570519-american-medical-association-calls-for-immediate-end-to-use-of-ivermectin/

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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2023, 09:01:33 am »
Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe:  Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin.  https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.

HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020,  Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.
HCQ was pulled two weeks after I saw Dr. Zelenko's very lucid YouTube explaining not only the regimen, but why it worked, in terms even a layman could understand. Donald Trump mentioned Hydroxychloroquine about a week after I saw that video, and it was pulled within a week, condemned on CNN as being "deadly". Deadly? My mother had been taking it for seven years for rheumatoid arthritis, another 'off label' use

But did you read any of the studies they based the decision on to pull IVM and HCQ?

I did.

The one touted to say HCQ was deadly was actually on chloroquine, with a limited cohort in Brazil. Lethal doses of Chloroquine were administered to a small group of patients, who died after being administered doses in a week amounting to 4 times the LD50 for Chloroquine, which has a long half-life in the human body. Oops.

All CNN did was shift from talking about Hydroxychloroquine to Chloroquine, hoping people would not notice, and say the study had to be stopped because patients were dying. (Ya think?)

But they didn't bother to say why. And they didn't bother to mention that Chloroquine and its known side effects were the reason Hydroxychloroquine was developed, to reduce the likelihood of side effects (especially lengthening the q-t interval) while retaining the antimalarial effects.

Then uses for HCQ were discovered to alleviate the symptoms of Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus.

As with Ivermectin, an effective (Nobel Prize winning) anti-parasitic, other uses were found--and still are being found.

The HCQ/IVM was administered to patients admitted to hospitals (already in the later stages of the disease, they'd been admitted). No zinc supplementation was administered in any of the studies.

The purpose of the HCQ was to act as an ionophore to get zinc ions into the Type 1 Pneumocytes and epithelial airway cells in order to disrupt viral replication (this was an early-onset treatment, to be used at first onset of symptoms). Zinc was known to disrupt the replication of the original SARS in vitro and in vivo. Azithromycin, a macrolide antibiotic, not only warded off bacterial infections but acted to mute immune response and prevent a Cytokine storm, an idiopathic effect of macrolide antibiotics in general.

Some studies used Azithromycin, most did not.

So the studies, conducted on patients with advanced COVID basically showed that locking the barn door after the horses got out was not effective at keeping the horses in, by waiting until patients were already critical to administer the early onset treatment, after the viral replication that treatment was to prevent had gone on until the patient was really sick.
 
As  a scientist, I con only conclude the studies were designed to fail.
 
The same thing was done with Ivermectin/doxycycline/zinc, and in that regimen, the Ivermectin acted as the ionophore (and had other effects), the doxycycline as the antibiotic, and the Zinc as the viral replication inhibitor.

Only those who found a workaround by utilizing veterinary drugs ("horse paste", with a recommended dose of .2mg/kg for horses, same as for humans) got that treatment, myself included. My COVID symptoms (which had reached 'galloping lung crud') resolved in 5 days. I'm over 60, mildly over weight, and borderline diabetic. That's a trifecta of comorbidities, which would normally make one a candidate for a box (or urn). 

Other ionophores were available, including Quercetin, which could be bought off the shelf, IF you could find it.

Note that the chief source of zinc in people's diets is red meat, one thing "healthy" diets eschew in favor of low zinc options, like skinless white chicken meat and fish.

People in assisted living and nursing home facilities are at the mercy of dieticians who have been 'educated' to this general mindset and are likely to be deficient in zinc to begin with. Add in other comorbidities, and the lack of vitamin D promoted by lockdowns and lack of sunlight, and the stage is set to have thousands die, which they did. 

Now the quandary for patient treating physicians:

Do you do a double blind study (which requires the administration of placebos to a cohort of study participants for the purpose of comparing results of the treatment with sugar pills, knowing the untreated patients are likely to get even more sick or die), or do you treat your patients with the best available medication?

Of course there were no double blind studies, but there was an awful lot of information from treating physicians indicating success with the HCQ and IVM regimens, and not many of them sold a supplement line.

You could get Quercetin, zinc, Vitamins C and D at virtually any store that sold supplements, IVM could be obtained at the feed store (if they could keep it in stock), and veterinary doxycycline was still available, even though a primary and trusted source for veterinary antibiotics, Thomas Laboratories, suddenly stopped producing antibiotics at the start of COVID.

Hmm. I'd bought antibiotics from them for years, not for the fish tank, but for me, because I could take them out to the field with me and use them if I got sick. The tablets/capsules were identical to the ones at the pharmacy, and you could look them up in any pill identifier and see what they were--at least appearing to be what they were advertised as.  I used them many times over the years, because where I worked there were often no doctors readily available.

Now for the big question. Why work so hard to discredit potentially effective therapies for COVID?

The answer is ugly, but simple.

If effective treatments existed for the disease, then the terms of the Emergency Use Authorization for the 'vaccine' would no longer be in effect, and full clinical testing would have to be conducted before administering the shots wholesale, and there would be no waiver of liability for the shots.

In a nutshell, Billions of dollars were at stake, and people within the Pharma Industry and Medical Community stood to gain (or lose) a LOT.

The IVM/Doxycycline/Zinc courses of medication were available in India for under $3.00 US, and would have cost under 20 bucks here. What's more, the drugs were no longer under patent and generics could be issued. No money for Pharma there. No grants for the people who did the studies.

Were studies retracted? Oh, yes. Here, you will find not only 343 retracted studies, but the reasons for which they were removed from the scientific literature. https://retractionwatch.com/retracted-coronavirus-covid-19-papers/

Note that the NIH does not recommend Ivermectin, but is, again, hobbled by studies that used just Ivermectin, and not the vital Zinc supplementation, just as was done with hydroxychloroquine.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/miscellaneous-drugs/ivermectin/

Incomplete regimens yield incomplete results. Kinda like sending landing craft to the beach during D-Day with no troops on board, it is only going to draw fire, and not get the job done--unless "the job" is to summarily discredit treatments to retain freedom from liability and rake in billions.

As in all things, YMMV.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2023, 09:59:43 am »
There is no case of any politician or billionaire who has suffered myocarditis or 'sudden death' as it is called. The explanation is simple. They were mandating an unproven, untested, undocumented, sterilization, DNA 'shot' for the peasant masses, while never taking it themselves.

They knew is was risky. They just did not care. Let's just sit back, smoke a cigar, and see what happens?

The best thing is the loony Leftists were the first to rush for the shot. So, they are going to take the brunt of the aftereffects. The sad part is the normal people who were forced into this global experiment, who had no way of saying 'NO!'.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2023, 11:22:06 am »
All the Leftist 'indoctrination' All the Leftist bullshit. It is coming back to them.
Eat your own shit, you puppets, you hobgoblins of nothingness
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2023, 02:02:26 pm »
I have never once been tested for COVID and never will be. My wife, a now retired medical professional with more than 40 years experience, insists that the test is a delivery method to infect those with healthy immune systems and would otherwise not get infected. I don't know but I'm not about to argue with her about it.

When the CHICOM attack (COVID) began I was over 70 years old, mildly overweight, taking meds to keep my heartbeat regular and my BP under control, and a pill a day that (according to my long time MD) prevents me from becoming fully diabetic. Showed symptoms on two separate occasions. Took the horse paste, Zinc, D3, and Amoxicillin. The wife did the same except for substituting Quercetin for the horse paste. The symptoms were gone in three days both times. I continue to take D3 and vitamin C daily.

And the, for me at least, biggest question remains. WHY on earth would anyone take any experimental anything for a disease with a 95% plus survival rate.

I won't get into the efforts to "push the herd" that were also a HUGE red flag for me as that has all been covered by others already.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2023, 03:15:11 pm »
HCQ was pulled two weeks after I saw Dr. Zelenko's very lucid YouTube explaining not only the regimen, but why it worked, in terms even a layman could understand. Donald Trump mentioned Hydroxychloroquine about a week after I saw that video, and it was pulled within a week, condemned on CNN as being "deadly". Deadly? My mother had been taking it for seven years for rheumatoid arthritis, another 'off label' use

But did you read any of the studies they based the decision on to pull IVM and HCQ?

I did.

Just to clarify @Smokin Joe :  I wasn't commenting on the appropriateness of the FDA's actions, just confirming the actual treatment President Trump received for COVID in Oct 2020 ---- and subsequent changes made by the FDA to the usage of COVID therapeutics.

Having said this, your full post is incredibly chock full of good information (as are most of your posts).  I appreciate your research and will need some time to digest it all, which I haven't got today.  Today, I'll simply say "thank you".   happy77


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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2023, 05:16:59 pm »
   The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life, great leader.
There's that and then the sanctions against medical professionals and doctors who tried to administer said meds. If "saving just one life" was the real intent, then ALL cards would have been on the table to include medical freedom to choose and use what worked best for each person. But that was not permitted. Dr's were threatened with their licenses/livelihood if they stepped out of line, forcing everyone into a cattle chute.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2023, 09:41:20 pm »
There's that and then the sanctions against medical professionals and doctors who tried to administer said meds. If "saving just one life" was the real intent, then ALL cards would have been on the table to include medical freedom to choose and use what worked best for each person. But that was not permitted. Dr's were threatened with their licenses/livelihood if they stepped out of line, forcing everyone into a cattle chute.
Consider, about one in 5 nurses worldwide refused the mRNA shots: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8876951/

And it wasn't just the healthcare field. From: https://hrexecutive.com/how-many-unvaccinated-workers-have-quit-to-avoid-vaccine-mandates/

How many workers have quit to avoid vaccine mandates?
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However, according to the survey, more than a third (37%) of unvaccinated workers (5% of adults overall) say they would leave their job if their employer required them to get a vaccine or get tested weekly, a share that rises to seven in 10 unvaccinated workers (9% of all adults) if weekly testing is not an option. Six in 10 workers (8% of all adults) also say they would ask for an exemption if presented with such a mandate.

While COVID fear porn was effective, and some employees were cited as having expressed concerns about the un vaccinated in their ranks (but they were vaccinated and should have immunity, right? Right?) The comment was made here: https://hrexecutive.com/is-your-talent-really-walking-out-the-door-to-avoid-a-covid-vaccine/ that
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COVID-19 vaccinations–as with mask policies–have been polarizing and politicized, which is why mandates have become controversial, despite other vaccinations being required as a condition of employment.
Now, why would concern seem to be greater over this injection compared to the other vaccines?

Because this is a novel (read: untried) "vaccine"--not just the shots, but the approach, which unlike vaccines in the past that take killed virus or weakened virus strains to teach the human body to make antibodies, this is supposed to teach the human body to make the antigens (spike proteins) to have a reaction to in order to form antibodies.

The approach was/is still controversial, and the efficacy was/is still in question.

Traditional vaccines stop you from getting that particular disease, the mRNA shots rather conspicuously did not.
Traditionally, the vaccinated had nothing to fear from the unvaccinated--or even the infected--because they acquired immunity to the pathogen they were vaccinated against.

That was so glaringly not in evidence that the definition of a vaccine was changed to accommodate the mRNA injections so they could even be called "vaccines".

Especially in the Healthcare industry, this was well understood, and a multitude refused to get the novel mRNA injections, even at the cost of admitting privileges at hospitals or their jobs.
...and that does not include religious objections, some due to the use of fetal cell lines in developing the shots.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2023, 02:48:19 am »
The general population that embraced taking the COVID vaccine have limited intelligence.

My wife, a doctor, had COVID the last week of 2019, and I had it the first week of 2020.  When COVID was hitting the news, I was recovering from having had the virus.  The government has lied all along.

And since when do we as a country take EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS?  What is the sense of having the FDA if we are going to force people to take a vaccine that is unproven?  And the fact remains that over time, more people will die from the vaccine than did with the virus.

Mortality rates for highly vaxed countries with the mRNA is up 10% across the board.  So, PeteS in CA, you must be living under a rock.  I know personally folks that have died from the vaccine.  And it will get worse.  Wait until cancer rates begin to skyrocket. 

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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2023, 04:12:27 am »
When hospitals are being given financial incentives from the federal government for Covid deaths instead of Covid recoveries, there is a problem.
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Re: Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2023, 04:14:44 am »
Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe:  Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin.  https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.

HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020,  Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.

And Remdesivir was linked to an increase in Covid deaths instead of a decrease.  I sincerely believe they knew this when they gave it to Trump.
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