Paul Ryan Takes a Shot at Ron DeSantis in No-Lessons-Learned Commentary

[Kamaji]

Paul Ryan Takes a Shot at Ron DeSantis in No-Lessons-Learned Commentary

By Bonchie
June 13, 2023

Paul Ryan appeared on CBS Mornings on Tuesday, and he took a veiled shot at Ron DeSantis while critiquing the current path of the Republican Party. As the last decade or so has evidenced, the former Speaker of the House isn’t a fan of fighting the culture wars, and he reiterated his opposition when pressed on the matter.

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RYAN: Yeah, I’m not a culture war guy. I think it’s really polarizing. Look, on some of these issues I’ll side with the anit-woke crowd, but to me, I’m worried about a debt crisis, I’m worried about, you know, the future of our country and China. There are big policy problems that we need to tackle if we want to have a great 21st century for this country.

Ryan’s commentary is the perfect illustration of what the GOP once was, and what it can never become again. In the face of Nate Burleson citing transgender issues, the former Speaker of the House dismisses it and instead pivots to the debt crisis and China. And while those are both important issues that need to be tackled, the idea that they are more important than winning the culture is foolhardy.

Ask yourself, what good is money if children are being mutilated and “transitioned” in the name of a radical ideology? What good is confronting China if we allow ourselves to devolve into a third-world, dystopian hellhole back at home? Who cares about tax rates if we can’t even protect women?

Ryan goes on to call the culture wars “really polarizing,” but then fails to explain how that’s a bad thing. How does an issue being polarizing mark it as unworthy of pursuit? Some of the most polarizing issues in history have been some of the most important. Heck, I would hope that Republicans would be polarizing when it comes to opposing child abuse under the guise of transgender ideology.

It’s simple. Before venturing to solve a nation’s fiscal issues, you need to actually have a country worth living in. At the very least, you need to fight those battles concurrently. Dismissing one as polarizing is not only self-defeating, it’s morally wrong. That’s what people like Ryan simply won’t accept, and it’s frustrating to witness.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/13/paul-ryan-takes-a-shot-at-ron-desantis-in-no-lessons-learned-commentary-n760469

[DefiantMassRINO]

... says the man chosen to be Mitt Romney's #2 in 2012.

[DB]

Ryan should be holding his head in shame and quietly walked away for how he led congress as speaker. He was a complete failure. The border was the number one issue that he did literally nothing to fix. The consequences of that have spread everywhere.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Ryan should be holding his head in shame and quietly walked away for how he led congress as speaker. He was a complete failure. The border was the number one issue that he did literally nothing to fix. The consequences of that have spread everywhere.

The House under Ryan passed the border bill Trump demanded.  It just couldn't get through the Senate.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-meeting-house-republicans-amid-border-wall-showdown/story?id=59930695

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Paul Ryan Takes a Shot at Ron DeSantis in No-Lessons-Learned Commentary

By Bonchie
June 13, 2023

Paul Ryan appeared on CBS Mornings on Tuesday, and he took a veiled shot at Ron DeSantis while critiquing the current path of the Republican Party. As the last decade or so has evidenced, the former Speaker of the House isn’t a fan of fighting the culture wars, and he reiterated his opposition when pressed on the matter.

*  *  *

Ryan’s commentary is the perfect illustration of what the GOP once was, and what it can never become again. In the face of Nate Burleson citing transgender issues, the former Speaker of the House dismisses it and instead pivots to the debt crisis and China. And while those are both important issues that need to be tackled, the idea that they are more important than winning the culture is foolhardy.

Ask yourself, what good is money if children are being mutilated and “transitioned” in the name of a radical ideology? What good is confronting China if we allow ourselves to devolve into a third-world, dystopian hellhole back at home? Who cares about tax rates if we can’t even protect women?

Ryan goes on to call the culture wars “really polarizing,” but then fails to explain how that’s a bad thing. How does an issue being polarizing mark it as unworthy of pursuit? Some of the most polarizing issues in history have been some of the most important. Heck, I would hope that Republicans would be polarizing when it comes to opposing child abuse under the guise of transgender ideology.

It’s simple. Before venturing to solve a nation’s fiscal issues, you need to actually have a country worth living in. At the very least, you need to fight those battles concurrently. Dismissing one as polarizing is not only self-defeating, it’s morally wrong. That’s what people like Ryan simply won’t accept, and it’s frustrating to witness.

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Source:  https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/13/paul-ryan-takes-a-shot-at-ron-desantis-in-no-lessons-learned-commentary-n760469

I admire Paul Ryan for being a legit budget hawk. But as you say, those cultural issues are the ones that impact the lives of ordinary people on a day-to-day basis. Saying that those are unimportant and that we should only focus on long-term fiscal issues reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of what people value.

[Kamaji]

I admire Paul Ryan for being legit budget talk. But as you say, those cultural issues are the ones that impact the lives of ordinary people on a day-to-day basis. Saying that those are unimportant and that we should only focus on long-term fiscal issues reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of what people value.

I always felt like he was a good wonk - a good numbers guy with command of policy issues in fiscal contexts - but not an overall leader.

[GtHawk]

... says the man chosen to be Mitt Romney's #2 in 2012.

Hmmm, didn't he also lose debates to Captain Dementia?

[Bigun]

Who cares what the worthless POS says or does?

[corbe]

   This will befuddle the Trumpers here for about 5 minutes.

[Bigun]

I always felt like he was a good wonk - a good numbers guy with command of policy issues in fiscal contexts - but not an overall leader.

I always felt he took instruction from his K Street masters exceedingly well.

[DB]

The House under Ryan passed the border bill Trump demanded.  It just couldn't get through the Senate.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-meeting-house-republicans-amid-border-wall-showdown/story?id=59930695

From my view Ryan just went through the motions to curb illegal immigration without actually accomplishing anything - on purpose. The big business GOP swamp wants cheap labor and they don't care about the damage that it inflicts on everyone else.

[roamer_1]

From my view Ryan just went through the motions to curb illegal immigration without actually accomplishing anything - on purpose. The big business GOP swamp wants cheap labor and they don't care about the damage that it inflicts on everyone else.

Sure. If the Senate ain't gonna play, or the president will sustain a veto, anything goes - providing a fig leaf toward 'trying hard'. It's when the rubber hits the road that matters.

[Free Vulcan]

Oh yes, yes yes yes yes, Ryan has 'concerns'. Very deep and serious concerns. Very very serious. And deep.

Concerns he did nothing about. Is he trying to blame someone else here for the thing he didn't do under his leadership?

Does he think he still has credibility? Seems he does.

[LMAO]

10 years ago, I would have agreed with Paul Ryan that Republicans shouldn’t get too involved in the culture wars

As a result, we are now sexualizing children and making it illegal for parents to stand in the way of their transitioning

[roamer_1]

10 years ago, I would have agreed with Paul Ryan that Republicans shouldn’t get too involved in the culture wars

As a result, we are now sexualizing children and making it illegal for parents to stand in the way of their transitioning

That is a remarkable admission.

I have always seen you as a Goldwater gunslinger... Strong toward libertarianism in Goldwater fashion (said with h/t and every respect)... But I think Reagan's biggest contribution was to open a front against the liberals in the culture wars and bringing the Judeo-Christians to the table. It was his bet in the Southern Strategy, and one I think he believed in.

It's always been a rub between Goldwater and Reagan... Dulled over the years perhaps, but still there, that ground gained in Reagan and rejected in Goldwater. As a Western man, I probably see it better than most - We tend to a libertarian independence pretty naturally out here - Different to the Bible Belt. And the Christians are so big that they can easily wag the dog, with little political aplomb. So that resentment has a basis.

So again, A remarkable admission. Thank you.

[Bigun]

From my view Ryan just went through the motions to curb illegal immigration without actually accomplishing anything - on purpose. The big business GOP swamp wants cheap labor and they don't care about the damage that it inflicts on everyone else.

  

[Fishrrman]

LMAO wrote:
"10 years ago, I would have agreed with Paul Ryan that Republicans shouldn’t get too involved in the culture wars
As a result, we are now sexualizing children and making it illegal for parents to stand in the way of their transitioning"

You won't like this, but attitudes like yours (ten years ago) were a MAJOR "part of the problem".

I was for "waging the culture wars full steam ahead" even before Patrick J. Buchanan was lambasted for his landmark speech before the 1992 Republican convention.

Pat was right back then.
We now see the results of "ignoring" the culture wars for decades and decades.
That was not the fault of "the left" -- it was the fault of Republicans (emphasis intentional).

The Party is nearing victory.
Might be too late... now.
Comrades... will you join me in a toast to the lost past...?

[sneakypete]

Hmmm, didn't he also lose debates to Captain Dementia?

@GtHawk

How would that even be possible?

[GtHawk]

@GtHawk

How would that even be possible?

Well Joe wasn't as far gone then, and remember Willard's son told reporters after the election that pops never really wanted to be president so maybe Ryan was just in it for show too, so that bathhouse Barry could get elected.

[catfish1957]

@GtHawk

How would that even be possible?

Ryan blasting DeSantis?

I knew you and Paul Ryan had a lot in common.

[sneakypete]

Ryan blasting DeSantis?

I knew you and Paul Ryan had a lot in common.

@catfish1957



????????

[GtHawk]

Ryan blasting DeSantis?

I knew you and Paul Ryan had a lot in common.

I think you erred on Pete's response to my comment about Ryan... Hmmm, didn't he also lose debates to Captain Dementia?