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[sneakypete]

The thing that Donald Trump and many of his supporters don’t seem to understand is their passion for Donald Trump does not equal electoral success. We have posters here who state they want somebody who just throws bombs and they want Donald Trump unleashed should he get reelected
 
That’s why this hint of violence on behalf of Donald Trump is not only disturbing to me, but I can guarantee you that the Democrats are going to use that to their advantage. And Kari Lake’s veiled threat this isn’t a blogger. This was a former gubernatorial candidate for a state.

Even Adolf Hitler, after his failed Beer hall putsch, learned that violence and violent rhetoric wouldn’t work so he then understood that he had to work inside the system and create the alliances if he had any hope to enact the changes that he advocated for. Of course, many of those alliances that helped bring him to power later regretted it.

@LMAO

Got your panties all in a wad,Princess?

You are NOT stupid,and you do NOT seriously think we are talking about throwing ACTUAL bombs.

Ever heard of "VERBAL Bombs",Tinkerbell?

[sneakypete]

As will I.

And then, should he win the presidency, keep my fingers crossed and hope he doesn’t disappoint

@LMAO


Truthfully,that's all any of us can do regardless of who we vote for.

[libertybele]

One of my concerns right now is Trump's safety.  This is his 2nd indictment. Will there be a 3rd??? 

There is no way that they are going to let him run again.

[LMAO]

@LMAO

Got your panties all in a wad,Princess?

You are NOT stupid,and you do NOT seriously think we are talking about throwing ACTUAL bombs.

Ever heard of "VERBAL Bombs",Tinkerbell?

Lol

I know that it doesn’t mean actual bombs. My point was just wanting a bomb thrower, the term you used, doesn’t accomplish anything except upset the commenters at MSNBC

I have not seen any poster here that has called for violence or hinted at it. But there are people out in the blogosphere that are and it is disturbing

[libertybele]

Lol

I know that it doesn’t mean actual bombs. My point was just wanting a bomb thrower, the term you used, doesn’t accomplish anything except upset the commenters at MSNBC

I have not seen any poster here that has called for violence or hinted at it. But there are people out in the blogosphere that are and it is disturbing

Are indeed people on the right calling for violence or is it the left making false accusations to create an insurrection?  Never ever discount what the left is capable of.  After all, J6 was planned by leftists.  Then we have Antifa, BLM, and Trump haters and others who have caused massive destruction. They want to live by mob rule and have absolutely no regard for the rule of law.

[LMAO]

Are indeed people on the right calling for violence or is it the left making false accusations to create an insurrection?  Never ever discount what the left is capable of.  After all, J6 was planned by leftists.  Then we have Antifa, BLM, and Trump haters and others who have caused massive destruction. They want to live by mob rule and have absolutely no regard for the rule of law.

Some of the call for violence could be coming from the left. But if it is, it’s a small number

And we need to stop with this January 6 was orchestrated by leftists nonsense.  Nobody is buying it. The Minnesota governor tried to claim that the rioters in Minneapolis were white supremists and nobody bought that either.

[libertybele]

Some of the call for violence could be coming from the left. But if it is, it’s a small number

And we need to stop with this January 6 was orchestrated by leftists nonsense.  Nobody is buying it. The Minnesota governor tried to claim that the rioters in Minneapolis were white supremists and nobody bought that either.

@LMAO Perhaps you would like it if people stopped saying that J6 was orchestrated, but there were videos indicating otherwise.

[Bigun]

And we need to stop with this January 6 was orchestrated by leftists nonsense.  Nobody is buying it.

What makes you think it's nonsense? And why do you think no one is buying it?

I happen to believe you are very wrong on both.

[LMAO]

What makes you think it's nonsense? And why do you think no one is buying it?

I happen to believe you are very wrong on both.

You’re entitled to believe what you want. But it doesn’t make it so.

So some of you really believe that everybody who rioted on J6 was a leftist?? Lol… good luck selling that

[LMAO]

@LMAO Perhaps you would like it if people stopped saying that J6 was orchestrated, but there were videos indicating otherwise.

Because it sounds just as ridiculous as the Minnesota governor claiming that people that were arrested rioting in Minneapolis were white supremacists

But keep selling that to the public

What some of you are doing is to take one or two incidences that are questionable, and then believe that that discredits everything else

I think the Ray Epps aspect of January 6 is a curiosity and deserves more investigation. But I do not buy that everybody who rioted on January 6 was an undercover FBI or antifa member. That’s just nonsense.

[Bigun]

You’re entitled to believe what you want. But it doesn’t make it so.

So some of you really believe that everybody who rioted on J6 was a leftist?? Lol… good luck selling that

 

I have heard no such thing and certainly never said it. What I have said, and will continue to say, is that it was ALL orchestrated by the left.

[sneakypete]

Lol

I know that it doesn’t mean actual bombs. My point was just wanting a bomb thrower, the term you used, doesn’t accomplish anything except upset the commenters at MSNBC

I have not seen any poster here that has called for violence or hinted at it. But there are people out in the blogosphere that are and it is disturbing

@LMAO

My apologies for misunderstanding you.

As for the part in bold,we are in complete agreement.

[LMAO]

@LMAO

My apologies for misunderstanding you.

As for the part in bold,we are in complete agreement.

 

We’ll fight again later .

But I am glad to see that you’re not defending this violent rhetoric. And even though we trade some shots at each other, I think you’ll find that we are in more agreement than  not.

[LMAO]

I have heard no such thing and certainly never said it. What I have said, and will continue to say, is that it was ALL orchestrated by the left.

So it was the left that tweeted this before Jan 6?

“Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election," he tweeted. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

I’m not saying that everybody who supports Donald Trump is a violent maniac. In fact, a big majority are not

Butvgroups tend to be defined by their most radical members. And, like it or not, but Donald Trump and his supporters have a very hostile press that will amplify what the small number of people say and do on behalf of Trump. And these people who are calling for violence after this latest Trump indictment may end defining all Republican candidates

[sneakypete]

Some of the call for violence could be coming from the left. But if it is, it’s a small number

And we need to stop with this January 6 was orchestrated by leftists nonsense.  Nobody is buying it. The Minnesota governor tried to claim that the rioters in Minneapolis were white supremists and nobody bought that either.

@LMAO

Who  do you think was behind it?

Asking because I not only don't know,but don't even remember what happened.

[Bigun]

So it was the left that tweeted this before Jan 6?

“Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election," he tweeted. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

NO! But the left damned sure made full use of the rally and managed to get a very good person and patriot MURDERED by the capitol police in the process!

I’m not saying that everybody who supports Donald Trump is a violent maniac. In fact, a big majority are not

Butvgroups tend to be defined by their most radical members. And, like it or not, but Donald Trump and his supporters have a very hostile press that will amplify what the small number of people say and do on behalf of Trump. And these people who are calling for violence after this latest Trump indictment may end defining all Republican candidates

Yes! Especially if we let the PRESS do the defining! At one time entire college courses were devoted to the subject of CRITICAL THINKING, now the subject is not on ANY syllabus that I'm aware of.

[Hoodat]

No! It isn't on him! It's on YOU and ME and everyone else who stood around and let it happen! @Hoodat

Just a reminder, the reason I was zotted from TOS back in 2016 is because I pointed out how Trump was in bed with the Swamp.  So no, this ain't on me, @Bigun

[cato potatoe]

BS! Name me ONE other person who has been prosecuted under this statute EVER

Trump exposed himself to prosecution through his egregious behavior.  His lawyers can file a motion dismiss, but what are the chances of that going anywhere?  Jack Smith is moving forward because he is confident of a relatively quick conviction in a less friendly venue. 

If you want Biden and Clinton punished, protecting Trump is not the way to go.  You need to nominate a candidate who is both capable of winning and determined to prosecute a former politician. 

[Bigun]

Trump exposed himself to prosecution through his egregious behavior.  His lawyers can file a motion dismiss, but what are the chances of that going anywhere?  Jack Smith is moving forward because he is confident of a relatively quick conviction in a less friendly venue. 

If you want Biden and Clinton punished, protecting Trump is not the way to go.  You need to nominate a candidate who is both capable of winning and determined to prosecute a former politician.

Not responsive to the question asked!

This is how ridiculous our government has become.

Only if you believe the Lawfare BS that the institutions have higher authority than the President of the United States. 

Institutions are not omnipotent entities; they are buildings and networks full of people who facilitate processes that are an outcome of policy.  Those buildings and offices are not the government. The elected politicians who we send to Washington DC are not subservient to the processes, norms and morays they determine within the bureaucracy that the politicians are in charge of.

[cato potatoe]

Not responsive to the question asked!

To what are you referring?  The Espionage Act of 1917?

[Kamaji]

BS! Name me ONE other person who has been prosecuted under this statute EVER @cato potatoe

On June 2nd former Mueller special counsel and impeachment operative, Andrew Weissmann and Norm Eisen respectively, published their current Trump prosecution memo [Read Here] using a novel and arcane interpretation of US Code 793. Four days later media began reporting from leaks within the Jack Smith special counsel of the main legal approach they were going to use against President Trump [citation]. What approach is Jack Smith taking, US Code 793! This is not coincidental.

A Philippine national named Michael Ray Aquino was prosecuted under 18 USC §793(e), and he pled guilty to the charge.  His case was discussed in the context of which sentencing guideline applied to him here:  https://casetext.com/case/us-v-aquino-11

[Bigun]

To what are you referring?  The Espionage Act of 1917?

 

[Kamaji]

Under the Obama and Trump administrations, at least eight Espionage Act prosecutions were related not to traditional espionage but either withholding information or communicating with members of the press.

Source:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917#21st_century

That same source lists a number of other recent prosecutions under the Espionage Act.