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DeSantis says he would welcome bill to abolish 'corrupt' IRS: 'We need something totally different'

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he would be "welcoming" of a measure from Congress to defund the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) if he's elected president next year.

The comments from DeSantis, who officially announced this week that he would seek the Republican presidential nomination in 2024, came during a conversation with radio host and Second Amendment advocate Dana Loesch on The Dana Show.

During the interview, DeSantis was asked whether he would sign a measure from Congress to abolish the IRS through funding means, as well as what he would replace the system with.

"Are you for a far tax, a flat tax, where do you stand on that?" Loesch asked DeSantis.

"So, the answer's yes. I think the IRS is a corrupt organization and I think it's not a friend to the average citizen or taxpayer," DeSantis responded. "We need something totally different."

"I've supported all of the single rate proposals, I think they would be a huge improvement over the current system and I would be welcoming to take this tax system, chunk it out the window and do something that's more favorable to the average folks."

DeSantis, who has repeatedly taken aim at the IRS for its unfair practices and crackdown on the middle class, said last August that an effort from the Biden administration to expand the IRS with 87,000 new agents was an indication of disrespect.

"Of all the things that have come out of Washington that have been outrageous, this has got to be pretty close to the top," DeSantis said at the time. "I think it was basically just the middle finger to the American public, that this is what they think of you."..............

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-welcome-bill-abolish-corrupt-irs-need-something-totally-different
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DeSantis continues his push for conservatism.  He is going to make a great president.
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DeSantis says he would welcome bill to abolish 'corrupt' IRS: 'We need something totally different'

 :yowsa:  :amen:

Mr. DeSantis just made a HUGE step toward gaining my support.
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Nice aspirational goal, but it ain't happening.  What would be better would be for DeSantis to push for another comprehensive reform of the IRS, along the lines of the TBOR acts in the 1990s.

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Nice aspirational goal, but it ain't happening.  What would be better would be for DeSantis to push for another comprehensive reform of the IRS, along the lines of the TBOR acts in the 1990s.

So, YOU say.  I think otherwise.
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Nice aspirational goal, but it ain't happening.  What would be better would be for DeSantis to push for another comprehensive reform of the IRS, along the lines of the TBOR acts in the 1990s.

From what I gathered from reading the article, reforming the IRS is his plan. Although not necessarily along the lines of TBOR.
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So, YOU say.  I think otherwise.

I'll affirm your right to think otherwise.  It's affirming care.

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Considering the IRS has been 'weaponized' before under Obama, and 'hunting' conservative organizations, this is a timely goal. If effective, it sure beats mean tweets.
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I'll affirm your right to think otherwise.  It's affirming care.

And MY ability to earn a living does not depend on the existence of either the income tax or the IRS.
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And MY ability to earn a living does not depend on the existence of either the income tax or the IRS.

Ok.  That pretty much applies to just about everyone in the country, so not a big deal.

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Considering the IRS has been 'weaponized' before under Obama, and 'hunting' conservative organizations, this is a timely goal. If effective, it sure beats mean tweets.

Agreed.

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   Not to be outdone by 'Meatball Ron', Trump will insist his forthcoming plan will get rid of the entire Treasury Department.
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   Not to be outdone by 'Meatball Ron', Trump will insist his forthcoming plan will get rid of the entire Treasury Department.

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Ok.  That pretty much applies to just about everyone in the country, so not a big deal.

If you say so.
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I do.  Prove otherwise.

I'm not about to try to PROVE anything for you but will note that it is my observation that there are a great many in this country now who would find it VERY difficult to earn a living without the existence of those things.
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I'm not about to try to PROVE anything for you but will note that it is my observation that there are a great many in this country now who would find it VERY difficult to earn a living without the existence of those things.

:mauslaff:

Like whom?  Accountants?  Plenty of need for accountants without the existence of the IRS.  Tax lawyers?  Their skills are easily transferrable to other practice areas.

No, there are precious few people in this country whose ability to earn a living is dependent on the existence of the IRS.  At worst there would be some disruption in the lives of the employees of the IRS as they looked for new jobs, but that'd be about it.

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:mauslaff:

Like whom?  Accountants?  Plenty of need for accountants without the existence of the IRS.  Tax lawyers?  Their skills are easily transferrable to other practice areas.

No, there are precious few people in this country whose ability to earn a living is dependent on the existence of the IRS.  At worst there would be some disruption in the lives of the employees of the IRS as they looked for new jobs, but that'd be about it.

Once again, we find ourselves in fundamental disagreement on this matter and I have no further interest in engaging you on the matter here.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Nice aspirational goal, but it ain't happening.  What would be better would be for DeSantis to push for another comprehensive reform of the IRS, along the lines of the TBOR acts in the 1990s.

Even so... Moving us in that direction is not going to happen at all without folks that represent us having it in mind.

This is another bright Conservative feather in DeSantis' cap.

HURRAH!

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Considering the IRS has been 'weaponized' before under Obama, and 'hunting' conservative organizations, this is a timely goal. If effective, it sure beats mean tweets.

YES, it does.  :beer:

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There are large industries made up lawyers and legislators that derive their wealth and power through tax law. Trying to defund/depower them will be met with severe resistance. They are an entrenched class that play both sides of the private/public sector. It is corrupt as hell and no one will likely touch them.
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There are large industries made up lawyers and legislators that derive their wealth and power through tax law. Trying to defund/depower them will be met with severe resistance. They are an entrenched class that play both sides of the private/public sector. It is corrupt as hell and no one will likely touch them.

 :yowsa: Absolutely!
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There are large industries made up lawyers and legislators that derive their wealth and power through tax law. Trying to defund/depower them will be met with severe resistance. They are an entrenched class that play both sides of the private/public sector. It is corrupt as hell and no one will likely touch them.

That may be but the fact that this is an agenda of DeSantis' is refreshing; better than throwing his hands up in the air and not even trying.
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Even so... Moving us in that direction is not going to happen at all without folks that represent us having it in mind.

This is another bright Conservative feather in DeSantis' cap.

HURRAH!

Absolutely!!  happy77
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That may be but the fact that this is an agenda of DeSantis' is refreshing; better than throwing his hands up in the air and not even trying.

Don't get me wrong. I agree with DeSantis. More power to him pushing back on this.