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 May 27, 2023 8:37pm EDT
Debt ceiling agreement in principle reached between Democrats, Republicans
Biden and McCarthy will meet at 6 p.m. ET

By Chad Pergram , Adam Sabes | Fox News

   An agreement in principle has been reached on the debt ceiling, Fox News has learned.

President Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy were scheduled to speak by phone Saturday night at 6 p.m. to discuss a potential debt limit deal, Fox News has learned.

A source also said that Biden spoke with Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

The revelation came after McCarthy sounded optimistic earlier in the day.

"We do not have a deal," McCarthy told reporters. "We are not there yet. We did make progress, we worked well into early this morning. And we're back at it now."

Biden, who traveled to Camp David late in the week before heading to his Delaware home, told reporters, "It's very close and I'm optimistic."

The meeting ended the call regarding the debt ceiling at 7:38 p.m., and the call lasted for nearly 90 minutes.

According to multiple sources, an all GOP House conference call is scheduled to happen at 9:30 p.m. about the debt limit negotiations.

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Waiting for the details....someone needs to leak them..
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McCarthy said he spoke to President Joe Biden twice on Saturday about the plan. “I expect to finish the writing of the bill, checking with the White House and speaking to the president again tomorrow afternoon,” said the California Republican, “Then posting the text of it tomorrow, and then be voting on it on Wednesday.”

The deal “has historic reductions in spending, consequential reforms that will lift people out of poverty and into the workforce, and rein in government overreach,” McCarthy said. “There are no new taxes and no new government programs.”

Democrats did not immediately confirm or deny McCarthy’s description of the agreement, which comes after more than a week of urgent talks between negotiators for the White House and House Republicans.

The announcement marked the start of a lobbying blitz by House and Senate leaders in both parties to convince their members to vote for the package, which will need to win enough votes in the GOP-controlled House and Democratic-held Senate to raise the U.S. debt ceiling in time to meet a June 5 deadline.

At least one senator, Utah Republican Mike Lee, has already threatened to use procedural maneuvers in the Senate to hold up a debt ceiling bill for as long as possible if he doesn’t like what it contains.

In the House, a group of 35 ultraconservative members publicly pressured McCarthy to demand even more concessions from Democrats and to “hold the line.” They, too, indicated they would not support a deal that they thought gave too much away.

The announcement of a deal surprised official Washington, where members of both the House and Senate were out of town for Memorial Day. Biden left the city on Friday to spend the weekend at Camp David.

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Sources on Capitol Hill tell me the debt ceiling deal McCarthy negotiated with Biden includes no legitimate spending cuts or significant reforms in exchange for a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase. Just a freeze next year followed by 1% increase in ‘25 adjusted for inflation.

Text of the bill to be released tomorrow and a final vote on Wednesday.

Total garbage considering the leverage the GOP conference had here.
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House Republicans had passed a partisan debt ceiling bill through the lower chamber last month, which included roughly $4.8 trillion in deficit reduction and rescinded a number of Biden-era programs, including green-energy tax credits, student-loan subsidies, and $80 billion in IRS funding.

But GOP negotiators dropped most of those provisions during the course of the talks in order to secure the new spending caps. And even before the deal was announced, the Freedom Caucus was blasting the proposal for giving away too much to Biden.

The conservatives are pointing to one major point of contention: The debt ceiling hike in their legislation was capped at $1.5 trillion, while the deal McCarthy cut with Biden was expected to be nearly three times that figure.

“Unacceptable,” the Freedom Caucus tweeted.

Rep. Dan Bishop (R-N.C.) took the criticisms a long step further, saying a debt ceiling increase of that size would prompt “war” between conservatives and leadership.

“If [the] Speaker’s negotiators bring back in substance a clean debt limit increase … one so large that it even protects Biden from the issue in the presidential …, it’s war,” Bishop tweeted.

Despite the conservative criticisms, Republicans clearly won the debate in one important sense: Unlike debt ceiling fights in the past — when GOP leaders demanded spending cuts but conceded tax hikes to Democrats in return — McCarthy drew a red line on new revenues early in the process, focusing the deficit reduction effort squarely on only the spending side of the budget equation in what amounts to a major victory for Republicans.

The absence of tax hikes as part of the deal has infuriated Democrats, who are lamenting the lopsided nature of the talks. But it could provide McCarthy some cover as he faces a barrage of criticism from his far-right skeptics.

“I’m not fearful of what’s in this bill,” he said.

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Sources on Capitol Hill tell me the debt ceiling deal McCarthy negotiated with Biden includes no legitimate spending cuts or significant reforms in exchange for a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase. Just a freeze next year followed by 1% increase in ‘25 adjusted for inflation.

Text of the bill to be released tomorrow and a final vote on Wednesday.

Total garbage considering the leverage the GOP conference had here.

Seems like McCarthy caved.  He's a RINO.  I was hopeful but should have known better.  My hunch is McCarthy blew it.
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Here’s a look at what’s in the deal.


Raises debt ceiling two years

The deal raises the debt limit for two years rather than by a monetary amount, meaning the issue wouldn’t come up again until after the next presidential election.

The debt limit increase is separate from the spending agreement, and a source familiar with negotiations said it was consistent with the structure of budget deals in 2015, 2018 and 2019 that simultaneously raised the debt limit at the time.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warned lawmakers this week that the agency would likely run out of money and default on June 5 without congressional action. Experts had warned a default could trigger a recession.

The White House for months maintained it was not negotiating on the debt limit and insisted Congress had a responsibility to raise the debt ceiling without conditions. In recent days, officials argued they were not negotiating over the debt ceiling, but were merely in talks over a spending agreement.



Spending caps

A GOP one-pager on the deal said it includes a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to fiscal year 2022 levels, while limiting topline federal spending to 1 percent annual growth for six years.

But a source familiar with the agreement said there are no budget caps in place after 2025, only “non-enforceable appropriations targets.” And the source said non-defense spending would stay roughly flat when factoring in other agreed appropriations adjustments.

That same source said defense spending would be consistent with what Biden requested in his 2024 budget proposal, which was nearly $900 billion.

The deal fully funds medical care for veterans, including funding the Toxic Exposure Fund through the bipartisan PACT Act.

The level and length of spending cuts in the final text could ultimately determine how many Republicans are willing to support the agreement, given numerous conservatives had viewed the negotiations as an opportunity to dramatically rein in government spending.



Work requirements

Work requirements were one of the largest sticking points in talks in recent days, with Republicans adamant that tougher work requirements be included in any deal while the White House balked at changes that would take away assistance from poor Americans.

The agreement phases in an increase for the age until which recipients of food stamps must seek work to be eligible for the benefits, from 49 to 54, but it also includes reforms to reduce the number of vulnerable people, including veterans and people who are homeless, subject to the limits under the SNAP program.

The changes to the food stamp program will sunset in 2030, a source familiar with the agreement said.

The deal does include some additional work requirements for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, which is likely to frustrate Democrats. A source familiar with the agreement said changes included in the original House GOP bill to raise the debt limit are not in the final deal, which would have put more than 1 million potential beneficiaries at risk.

The agreement does not include any changes to work requirements for Medicaid recipients, which Republicans had proposed but that the White House pushed back hard on.
COVID-19 funds clawback

The GOP one-pager on the deal said it will claw back “tens of billions” in unspent funds appropriated to combat COVID-19, including $400 million from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “Global Health Fund.”

Biden had indicated in recent weeks that he would open to putting unused COVID-19 relief funds on the table as part of spending talks.



IRS funds

The deal would cut some IRS funding without nixing the full $80 billion funding boost over a decade that Democrats approved last year for increased enforcement actions. Repealing that boost has been longtime GOP priority. The GOP list said the deal will “nix the total FY23 staffing funding request for new IRS agents.”

Rep. Dan Bishop (R-N.C.) disapprovingly said in a tweet that the deal rescinds $1.9 billion in IRS funding. “That’s the kind of ‘get’ that’s so good McCarthy agreed to increase the debt ceiling $4 trillion,” Bishop tweeted.



Permitting reform and environmental provisions

A White House source familiar with the agreement confirmed to The Hill that the tentative deal includes energy permitting reform, a major priority for Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) and an aspect McCarthy has said was a possible feature of a deal.

The source emphasized that the deal preserves the climate provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), Biden’s signature climate and infrastructure legislation, which the GOP had earlier sought to pare down in exchange for a debt ceiling increase.

“The agreement codifies, in [the National Environmental Protection Act], reforms aimed at boosting the coordination, predictability, and certainty associated with federal agency decision-making,” the source said in a statement.

The tentative deal reportedly would overhaul the permitting process to put a single agency in charge of developing the final environmental review document under a public timeline. The White House emphasized that this would not reduce the statute of limitations or otherwise curtail available legal remedies.

Manchin in 2022 agreed to back the IRA in exchange for a vote on a permitting reform package, although his proposal was later blocked by Senate Republicans. Separately, Senate Environment and Public Works Chair Tom Carper (D-Del.) introduced renewable energy-specific permitting reform earlier this month.

A GOP one-pager on the deal confirmed that it includes measures to “cut red tape and streamline energy & infrastructure projects.”



No new taxes

McCarthy said in brief statements to the press on Saturday that the deal included no new taxes.

“There are no new taxes, no new government programs,” McCarthy said.

Biden had in recent days publicly advocated for revenue sources to be part of negotiations, specifically focused on closing loopholes and increasing taxes on wealthy Americans.
Incentive to pass government funding bills

In a move meant to encourage Congress to pass appropriations bills on time, the debt deal includes a measure that caps continuing resolutions to fund the government at 99 percent of current levels until all 12 appropriations bills are enacted. That idea has long been floated by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.


Administrative Pay-Go


Republicans say that the deal includes the first-ever statutory Administrative Pay-Go language, relating to agencies proposing spending reductions that accompany discretionary spending increases. Republicans hope the measure will result in savings on executive rules and regulations that are enacted.

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What Republicans Are Saying About the Debt Ceiling Deal

Following Saturday evening's announcement that a tentative deal had been reached between Republican lawmakers and President Joe Biden, a series of calls were held among House GOP Conference members while additional information on what will constitute the final bill was released.


https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1662653996820213762

ccording to a one-pager circulated to Republican lawmakers, the "Fiscal Responsibility Act" will raise the debt ceiling and thereby avert a default on the nation's debt and also "cut spending year-over-year, including a rollback of non-defense discretionary spending to FY22 levels" while still fully funding VA medical and capping "topline federal spending to 1% annual growth for the next six years."


https://twitter.com/hughhewitt/status/1662763169884897280

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I have twenty bucks that says the IRS will still be hiring thousands of new agents and arming them.  This hiring binge will be covered up by both Parties.

And nobody will call for McCarthy's resignation as Speaker.
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Himes on Debt Ceiling Deal: ‘None of the Things in the Bill Are Democratic Priorities’

Representative Jim Himes (D-CT) said on this week’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday” that “none of the things in the bill are Democratic priorities” while discussing the debt ceiling deal.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/05/28/himes-on-debt-ceiling-deal-none-of-the-things-in-the-bill-are-democratic-priorities/
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Newt Gingrich on Debt Deal — ‘Dramatic Victory’

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Sunday applauded the debt limit deal forged by House Republicans and Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) with President Joe Biden.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/05/28/newt-gingrich-on-debt-deal-dramatic-victory/
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Himes on Debt Ceiling Deal: ‘None of the Things in the Bill Are Democratic Priorities’

Representative Jim Himes (D-CT) said on this week’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday” that “none of the things in the bill are Democratic priorities” while discussing the debt ceiling deal.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/05/28/himes-on-debt-ceiling-deal-none-of-the-things-in-the-bill-are-democratic-priorities/

Sounds like a Democrat Lie.
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Steube: Debt Deal a ‘Good Plan’ and We Have Several ‘Wins’

On Sunday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” Rep. Greg Steube (R-FL) praised the reported debt limit bill as an overall “good plan” that contains several “wins for Republicans.” Steube said, “Well, it’s — there’s a lot


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Dingell: I’m ‘Really’ ‘Annoyed’ by Cuts to IRS Staff in Debt Deal, But ‘There Is Nothing I Can Do About It’

On Sunday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Velshi,” Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-MI) stated that she is “really” “annoyed” that there are cuts for new IRS workers in the debt ceiling agreement between President Joe Biden and House Speaker Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),


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Hakeem Jeffries: We Will Pass Debt Ceiling Backup Plan if McCarthy Deal Fails

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that he guarantees the Democrats will pass a discharge petition to lift the debt ceiling if House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s (R-CA) deal fails to pass.

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 May 28, 2023 1:08pm EDT
Lindsey Graham warns Kevin McCarthy on debt ceiling deal: 'Biggest winner of Biden defense budget is China'
Sen. Lindsey Graham warns House Speaker Kevin McCarthy against sacrificing the defense budget to raise the debt ceiling

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., warned House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., against slashing the defense budget in order to reach a deal on the debt ceiling.

"Number one, I respect Kevin McCarthy. I want to raise the debt ceiling. It would be irresponsible not to do it. I want to control spending. I’d like to have a smaller IRS. I’d like to claw back the unused COVID money. I know you can’t get the perfect – but what I will not do is adopt the Biden defense budget and call it a success," Graham told "Fox News Sunday" host Shannon Bream. "Kevin said that the defense is fully funded. If we adopt the Biden defense budget, it increases defense spending below inflation – 3.2% increase in defense is below inflation."

Graham said the "Biden defense budget" would cut the number of ships in the U.S. Navy from 298 to 291 at a time when China is going to increase their Navy by nearly a third.

"The Biden defense budget was a joke before, and if we adopt it as Republicans we will be doing a great disservice to the party of Ronald Reagan. The biggest winner of the Biden defense budget is China because they’ll have a bigger navy; and it will be Putin," Graham claimed. "There’s nothing in the budget for Biden to help Ukraine win a war that they’re on the verge of driving the Russians out. So I like Kevin a lot, but don’t tell me that the Biden defense budget fully funds the military."

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Fake conservatives agree to fake spending cuts.  Deal will increase mandatory spending ~5%, increase military spending ~3%, and maintain current non-military discretionary spending at post-COVID levels. No real cuts to see here.
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You missed the fact where there is no new debt ceiling until Jan. 1, 2025, meaning their ability to issue new debt is unlimited/infinite until 1/1/25. That’s massive… and scary to us “poors” whos savings are being DESTROYED by out-of-control inflation. When will someone (the press, our elected officials, TV personalities, etc.) fight for us poors? More spending is VERY inflationary, and crushing to us poors.
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Fake conservatives agree to fake spending cuts.  Deal will increase mandatory spending ~5%, increase military spending ~3%, and maintain current non-military discretionary spending at post-COVID levels. No real cuts to see here.
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You missed the fact where there is no new debt ceiling until Jan. 1, 2025, meaning their ability to issue new debt is unlimited/infinite until 1/1/25. That’s massive… and scary to us “poors” whos savings are being DESTROYED by out-of-control inflation. When will someone (the press, our elected officials, TV personalities, etc.) fight for us poors? More spending is VERY inflationary, and crushing to us poors.
11:12 AM · May 28, 2023

Conservatives have been sold out once again!!!!  McCarthy is a RINO.
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May 28, 2023 1:08pm EDT
Lindsey Graham warns Kevin McCarthy on debt ceiling deal: 'Biggest winner of Biden defense budget is China'
Sen. Lindsey Graham warns House Speaker Kevin McCarthy against sacrificing the defense budget to raise the debt ceiling

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., warned House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., against slashing the defense budget in order to reach a deal on the debt ceiling.

"Number one, I respect Kevin McCarthy. I want to raise the debt ceiling. It would be irresponsible not to do it. I want to control spending. I’d like to have a smaller IRS. I’d like to claw back the unused COVID money. I know you can’t get the perfect – but what I will not do is adopt the Biden defense budget and call it a success," Graham told "Fox News Sunday" host Shannon Bream. "Kevin said that the defense is fully funded. If we adopt the Biden defense budget, it increases defense spending below inflation – 3.2% increase in defense is below inflation."

Graham said the "Biden defense budget" would cut the number of ships in the U.S. Navy from 298 to 291 at a time when China is going to increase their Navy by nearly a third.

"The Biden defense budget was a joke before, and if we adopt it as Republicans we will be doing a great disservice to the party of Ronald Reagan. The biggest winner of the Biden defense budget is China because they’ll have a bigger navy; and it will be Putin," Graham claimed. "There’s nothing in the budget for Biden to help Ukraine win a war that they’re on the verge of driving the Russians out. So I like Kevin a lot, but don’t tell me that the Biden defense budget fully funds the military."

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I may be alone with this. I would like to see more accountability from the Pentegon/DOD on what and where all the money is going.
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I may be alone with this. I would like to see more accountability from the Pentegon/DOD on what and where all the money is going.

Definitely need more accountability @bigheadfred  :beer:
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A big rise in the debt ceiling was there from the git go. The rest was quibbles and bits.
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