BREAKING REPORT: GOP Speaker McCarthy Caved, Debt Ceiling Deal Reached Through Handshake

[corbe]

   Absolutely @catfish1957 THEY (Trumpers) wanted McCarthy on the FIRST vote, warts and all, without the HFC shackles that were imposed, not that they'll do any good.

[Hoodat]

This appears to be a story designed to scare normal people.  Not buying it yet.  I have learnt to NEVER believe anything coming from The Hill.

Well, it's The Hill, so . . .

[libertybele]

   Absolutely @catfish1957 THEY (Trumpers) wanted McCarthy on the FIRST vote, warts and all, without the HFC shackles that were imposed, not that they'll do any good.

McCarthy is a RINO -- don't expect that the GOP or Americans get anything in the deal.

[ScottinVA]

Did anyone actually try reading the article?  Nothing was said about an agreement being reached. 

[bigheadfred]

Did anyone actually try reading the article?  Nothing was said about an agreement being reached.

I read it. My reply reflects that.

[corbe]

   It's not official until we see the 'Countdown to Armagedón Debt Clock' on FOX and CNN.

[christian]

The usual knee jerk reaction wolves in sheeps clothing will demand you blame Republicans for what democrats got away with, expecting people are too stupid to see democrats getting everything their way is democrats getting their way, not RepublicanS.  It's an IQ check to gauge numbers of stupid people. It reveals much of the speaker.

[sneakypete]

Keep in mind that it had to be a compromise deal, and so it won't make anyone truly happy.  Gauge it by how unhappy the left becomes.

@Kamaji

True. There ain't no such thing as a deal where both  sides get everything they want.

[Hoodat]

The unspent Covid money is crucial.  This is what the Democrats are relying on to fund their 2024 campaigns.  If the Republicans can't block any of that now, then they have no chance at winning the Senate in 2024.  Count on every Democrat Senate candidate amassing over $100 million each to fund their races.

[corbe]

McCarthy 'not at all worried' about motion to vacate amid GOP revolt on debt limit deal

by Ryan King, Breaking Politics Reporter 
May 28, 2023 11:52 AM

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) shrugged off the threat of a motion to vacate being weaponized against him amid backlash to the debt ceiling deal.

Back in January, when McCarthy struggled through a historically unprecedented 15 votes to claim the gavel, he agreed to lower the threshold for a motion to vacate down to a single vote in order to win over holdouts. This means that any member upset with the tentative debt limit deal could move to oust him.

"Not at all worried," McCarthy said when asked about the threat.

A cacophony of conservatives from the hard right flank of the GOP caucus have come out in opposition to the recent debt limit framework deal negotiators struck Saturday night, voicing concerns that Republicans didn't make enough gains. Still, GOP leadership feels that a sizable majority of House Republicans will back it.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/mccarthy-not-worried-about-motion-vacate

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Keep in mind that it had to be a compromise deal, and so it won't make anyone truly happy.  Gauge it by how unhappy the left becomes.

I'm not sure what people expected.  McCarthey would have ended up losing enough RINO votes to pass a worse bill if he didn't compromise.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Again, contingent on this being correct....

I think we need to resurrect that rancious  Speaker election threat from January and out all of those here who were so hell bent on McCarthy getting the job, and all of those same here who called the FC and us traitors for witholding our support for hiim.

This is ALL on you.  You bought it.

What is the alternative?

[bigheadfred]

The Republicans got some of the things they wanted. Biden's stance was he wouldn't compromise. But he did. If anyone caved, it was Biden.

[Bigun]

The Republicans got some of the things they wanted. Biden's stance was he wouldn't compromise. But he did. If anyone caved, it was Biden.

  That's how I see it as well @bigheadfred and some of what McCarthy got is REALLY important.

[corbe]

   I don't see it that way @bigheadfred   These 3 Trump endorsees failed US, once again.

 

[sneakypete]

I'm not sure what people expected.  McCarthey would have ended up losing enough RINO votes to pass a worse bill if he didn't compromise.

@Maj. Bill Martin


They live in some sort of alternate universe,and expected a "Hallmark Moment" to happen and seize the victory for them,of course.

Some people will NEVER learn that NOBODY EVER wins EVERYTHING they want in politics,and may it ALWAYS be this way because compromise can also keep us from becoming just another police state.

[sneakypete]

What is the alternative?

@Maj. Bill Martin

@catfish1957

I dunno. Maybe you should ask Catfish1957 what he would like to happen,and then have all of us demand he be pleased.

After all,it IS all about pleasing Catfish1957,right?

[libertybele]

   I don't see it that way @bigheadfred   These 3 Trump endorsees failed US, once again.

 

....Trump endorsees -- he definitely doesn't pick the best people.  All 3 of them are a disaster.

[sneakypete]

The Republicans got some of the things they wanted. Biden's stance was he wouldn't compromise. But he did. If anyone caved, it was Biden.

@bigheadfred

The question is "Does Biden know he caved",and did he get any ice cream for caving?

[bigheadfred]

@bigheadfred

The question is "Does Biden know he caved",and did he get any ice cream for caving?

He gets his ice cream no matter what. What he knows is an ever changing landscape.

[Cyber Liberty]

He gets his ice cream no matter what. What he knows is an ever changing shrinking landscape.

Fixed it....

[christian]

For the WOKE amnesiacs and others, R Reagan made a deal on a handshake with democrats.  The Democrats got what they wanted and swiftly moved on it.  When Reagan  tried to get his part of the deal, Democrats laughed at Reagan for being a fool and blocked Reagan totally. For useful fools, Trump is not to blame because democrats whorish amorality getting their way, you supporting such whorishness  getting their (democrats)way is much on YOU, not at all on Trump.  Blame shifting whore mentality is not every ones new morality.
Hes not everyones new god....

[catfish1957]

@Maj. Bill Martin

@catfish1957

I dunno. Maybe you should ask Catfish1957 what he would like to happen,and then have all of us demand he be pleased.

After all,it IS all about pleasing Catfish1957,right?

Idiotic post, not even worth responding.  You've got your nose stuck so far up Trump's ass and his agenda , that we can't see your eyes anyway anymore.  FO...

[sneakypete]

Idiotic post, not even worth responding.  You've got your nose stuck so far up Trump's ass and his agenda , that we can't see your eyes anyway anymore.  FO...

@catfish1957

Hit a nerve,huh?

You DeSantis drones do get points for being obsessed with his competition,though.

What are you going to do if Trump defeats him,stay home or vote Dim? Hell,the way the Dims operate,you  can do both!

[roamer_1]

What are you going to do if Trump defeats him,stay home or vote Dim? Hell,the way the Dims operate,you  can do both!

@sneakypete

Voting for big government from the right is the same thing (or worse) than voting for Democrats.
Tumpy will never get my vote. I won't stay home, and I won't vote Democrat... But there will never be a check by Tumpy's name. Not from me.