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That explains why Trump lost in 2020 since Lambert backed him.

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Trump lost in 2020 because of Dim voter fraud.

Chances are he,or anyone else running against the Dim candidate in the next Presidential race will face the same process,and lose unless some changes are made.
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She is fully representative of her candidate.

Which is why I will ultimately make my decision on RDS based on his record, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and not what Trump or his MAGA base claim here as it’s been discredited too many times

Plus Trump has massive credibility problems to take his word on much of anything

Will I vote for DeSantis? Maybe. But I won’t be voting Trump. He and Biden are determined to bankrupt us
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I've known wedges of swiss cheese smarter than Ronna McDaniel.

They'll have to go through Trump and Ronna McDaniel and the rest of the GOPe.
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I've known wedges of swiss cheese smarter than Ronna McDaniel.

You sure those wedges of Swiss cheese are smarter? Or is it just their holier than thou attitude?  :pondering:
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I've known wedges of swiss cheese smarter than Ronna McDaniel.

I don't doubt it.  Some of them can be quite sharp.






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I don't doubt it.  Some of them can be quite sharp.








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Good point.
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She is fully representative of her candidate.

How to you reconcile a lot of these same people having backed Trump in 2016??  Why was it okay for Trump to take all that money, but not DeSantis?

Here's the reality -- most of that kind of PAC spending isn't done because they want to "own" the candidate.  It's done because the the people who finance those PACs already agree with the stances that candidate holds, and want them to be President.  After all, there are plenty of candidates from which they could choose, and they pick the one they like the most.  Nothing wrong with that.  Usually, there are multiple such PAC's supporting contending candidates, and it would be impossible for a candidate to pander to them all anyway.

I had to raise money once for a political issue -- it was Right to Work in my state.  So what you do is you identify people who you agree with you on that issue alread.  You then go to them, tell them the cause you're pushing, and ask if they'll support it.  Contributions -- at least for issues and people seeking an office -- come from contributors already aligned with the candidate.  Because after all, those PACs have no hold over the candidate once they are in office.  A PAC supporting DeSantis has no recourse if he gets in office and doesn't do what they asked.  So they only way it works is for them to find candidates in who they actually believe.  "Buying" and "owning" the candidate doesn't work because they can do whatever they wish after they are in office.

The real corruption generally doesn't come in until you're talking about contributions made to incumbents.  Because that's when lobbyists can wait to see how you vote on an issue before making the contribution.

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How to you reconcile a lot of these same people having backed Trump in 2016??  Why was it okay for Trump to take all that money, but not DeSantis?

Here's the reality -- most of that kind of PAC spending isn't done because they want to "own" the candidate.  It's done because the the people who finance those PACs already agree with the stances that candidate holds, and want them to be President.  After all, there are plenty of candidates from which they could choose, and they pick the one they like the most.  Nothing wrong with that.  Usually, there are multiple such PAC's supporting contending candidates, and it would be impossible for a candidate to pander to them all anyway.

I had to raise money once for a political issue -- it was Right to Work in my state.  So what you do is you identify people who you agree with you on that issue alread.  You then go to them, tell them the cause you're pushing, and ask if they'll support it.  Contributions -- at least for issues and people seeking an office -- come from contributors already aligned with the candidate.  Because after all, those PACs have no hold over the candidate once they are in office.  A PAC supporting DeSantis has no recourse if he gets in office and doesn't do what they asked.  So they only way it works is for them to find candidates in who they actually believe.  "Buying" and "owning" the candidate doesn't work because they can do whatever they wish after they are in office.

The real corruption generally doesn't come in until you're talking about contributions made to incumbents.  Because that's when lobbyists can wait to see how you vote on an issue before making the contribution.

I don't think you understood my post. I was referring to birds of a feather.