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Online Hoodat

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Fishrrman fearless prediction:
The "abortion issue" is going to do far more damage to Republicans over time in the red states, than in the blue states.

Only if dumb stupid ignorant imbecilic idiotic morons like Donald Trump continue to make it a national issue.
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Fishrrman fearless prediction:
The "abortion issue" is going to do far more damage to Republicans over time in the red states, than in the blue states.

The Dobbs decision has turned out to be a Pyrrhic Victory -- a [painful] gift that will just "keep on giving".

There are cohorts and cohorts of young women that the Pubbies are NEVER going to "reach" because of it. And even as they grow older, they're not going to change their voting patterns in any great degree...

I'll take you up on that. Liberal women have a presence in small town America, even in the red states... But a powerful matriarchy still exists in country places, and powerful grandmothers teach their grandchildren...

Sure they rebel in their teens, and sure they do stupid stuff, but they have been taught right from wrong by the wise. Generally (young ladies first) they tend to come back around to what their family believes... and especially so when they first find an occasion to pass a child from their belly.

Mothers tend to be conservative here in the great unwashed red states.

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Abortion is a state issue and should stay there.
Precisely.

Especially when emoting women are emoting as if these was a Federal ban on abortions because Roe was overturned. The claimed "Right" was wrong in the first place, and in no way would have been part of Original Intent.

If someone doesn't like the rules in their state, they are still free to travel to a state where they like the rules, or even move there.

At its core, that is what Federalism is about. These United States.
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Abortion is a state issue and should stay there.

It would appear Mr. T doesn’t understand that - which is also the crux of the Court’s decision.
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It would appear Mr. T doesn’t understand that - which is also the crux of the Court’s decision.

That should come as no surprise at all.

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That should come as no surprise at all.

I reckon not.
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