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Trump says he would reach abortion 'deal' that the 'whole country can agree with'

Julia Musto  •  18 May 2023


Former President Trump claimed Tuesday that his potential future administration would reach a deal on abortion that "the whole country" would be okay with.

"Now DeSantis, or Ron DeSanctimonious as I call him, he came out with the six weeks. Other people agree with it. And a lot of people don't," Trump said in an interview with Newsmax. "We're in a position now – and I'm going to be leading the charge – we're in the position now where we can get something that the whole country can agree with, and that's only because I got us out of the Roe v. Wade where the pro-life people had absolutely nothing to say."

When pressed further, the GOP presidential candidate asserted that he is in a "very powerful negotiating position" following the reversal of Roe v. Wade, echoing previous statements when asked about his beliefs.  .  .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-would-reach-abortion-deal-that-the-whole-country-can-agree-with/ar-AA1bm3b7
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We are in a post Roe v Wade political world.  We won.  The Supremes overturned this and returned the issue to the states.

Why, when we could finally hold national elections without abortion being on the agenda, would DeSantis
Trump be forcing anything to do with abortion as a litmus test?

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,499898.msg2833631.html#msg2833631
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How much would we have to pay this guy to retire and shut up?  It may be worth looking into.

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How much would we have to pay this guy to retire and shut up?  It may be worth looking into.

That’d be greatly helpful.. also, God might intervene with a medical issue.

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Who thinks you can win a national election without voting women?   

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Abortion is a state issue and should stay there.
The Republic is lost.

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Who thinks you can win a national election without voting women?   

I swear...you guys...all you do is emote.

Snap the hell out of it!

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So you believe abortion should be put back on the national agenda as an election issue instead of having it remain a State issue?
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So you believe abortion should be put back on the national agenda as an election issue instead of having it remain a State issue?

I'm saying that you're not living in reality.

The only way this topic will fade as a political issue is by winning hearts and minds...not by writing laws.

It is virtually impossible without an effective megaphone.  The Media is the arm of the Democrat Party, despite their hard-LEFT turn.

Flawed or not...WTF did it take 45 YEARS for any Supreme Court to 'correct' it? 

2-1/2 generations??  And you think a law gives you the moral high ground?  At what cost??

And you guys call Donald Trump a narcissist??
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I'm saying that you're not living in reality.

The only way this topic will fade as a political issue is by winning hearts and minds...not by writing laws.

It is virtually impossible without an effective megaphone.  The Media is the arm of the Democrat Party, despite their hard-LEFT turn.

Flawed or not...WTF did it take 45 YEARS for any Supreme Court to 'correct' it? 

2-1/2 generations??  And you think a law gives you the moral high ground?  At what cost??

And you guys call Donald Trump a narcissist??

The reality is SCOTUS returned the abortion issue to the States where it should be. By Trump stating that he would reach an abortion 'deal' that the whole country can agree with leads people to falsely believe that he can rescind what the SCOTUS has decided.  Yes, Trump is a narcissist.  He always has been and always will be.

Laws don't give anyone the moral high ground but it sure as heck relieves for the most part babies being killed after delivery and late term abortions.  Anyone who doesn't see abortion as a moral issue needs some help; murdering babies is wrong period.
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I'm saying that you're not living in reality.

The only way this topic will fade as a political issue is by winning hearts and minds...not by writing laws.

So you think Donald Trump is wrong to offer a deal instead of winning hearts and minds?
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...not by writing laws.


In fact, SCOTUS removed law. Un-wrote law, @DCPatriot

It was the leftward leaning SCOTUS of yesteryear that 'wrote law' by endorsing Roe v Wade.

So when liberals write law (illegally btw), that's alright... but when Conservatives remove law, that's not?

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Who thinks you can win a national election without voting women?   

I swear...you guys...all you do is emote.

Snap the hell out of it!   ****slapping

So you think Trump is popular with women??  Cheating on his wife several times and making derogatory statements about women? He just lost to E. Jean Caroll and he has to pay her $5 million for sexual assault.

Think again.

Take off the orange colored glasses for a few minutes and take a look at reality.

Former President Trump increasingly looks like the favorite to win the GOP’s presidential nomination, but that strength masks what many Republicans see as a huge weakness against President Biden: Trump’s problems with suburban women.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4002482-gop-fears-trumps-problems-with-suburban-women-will-only-get-worse/

In 2020 62% of women said they would not vote for him.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are/
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So you think Trump is popular with women??  Cheating on his wife several times and making derogatory statements about women? He just lost to E. Jean Caroll and he has to pay her $5 million for sexual assault.

Think again.

This is how Trump (and his zealots) believe is a successful strategy to pander for the 'women's vote' - by offering a "deal" on abortion.  Never mind that women are just a split on this issue as everyone else.  Never mind that his zealots just recently criticized (falsely) DeSantis of bringing this issue up nationally.  And never mind this decision flies in the face of Republican policy for the last century.

As for Trump's political unpopularity with women, this showcases typical Democrat philosophy - to hold others accountable to a standard you do not believe in yourself.  Trump zealots sure didn't give a damn about women's support in 2020.  Yet @DCPatriot uses it now as an excuse to explain Trump's actions - actions that @Right_in_Virginia (falsely) condemned Ron DeSantis of doing only a few days prior.

Hypocrisy on steroids.
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We are in a post Roe v Wade political world.  We won.  The Supremes overturned this and returned the issue to the states.

Why, when we could finally hold national elections without abortion being on the agenda, would DeSantis
Trump be forcing anything to do with abortion as a litmus test?

Trump is trying to clean up and minimize the meatball's mess.  I swear there are times I think RDS is working for Biden.

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Your blatant double-standard is duly noted.

Oh, and for the record, it was Trump - not DeSantis - who started this national discussion.  But you knew that already, yet are still pushing a false narrative that DeSantis created this.
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In 2020 62% of women said they would not vote for him.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are/

In 2020, 92% of women never heard of Rob DeSantis.  Those that have met him recently are running away from RDS in droves.

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Who thinks you can win a national election without voting women?   

I swear...you guys...all you do is emote.

Snap the hell out of it!   ****slapping
Who on God's green Earth believes anyone could get the entire nation to agree on something as divisional as abortion? What Trump is spouting is nothing more than BS POLITICIAN(you know that thing we keep being told Trump isn't) empty promise crapola. Anyone that believes the great deal maker could pull something off is deluded. How do you you pull off getting voting women to vote for you with this? Liberal women will never ever trust Trump and pushing the abortion narrative to the liberal edge of the scale will alienate how many of the conservative women that he needs? Pander bear gotta pander.

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In 2020, 92% of women never heard of Rob DeSantis.  Those that have met him recently are running away from RDS in droves.
And you can prove this how? Of course Trump is drawing women to him with his infidelity to his wife right, because women just love an unfaithful man.

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In 2020, 92% of women never heard of Rob DeSantis.  Those that have met him recently are running away from RDS in droves.

QED

Just like I said, this showcases typical Democrat philosophy - to hold others accountable to a standard you do not believe in yourself.

(Trump got 36% of the women's vote in 2020)
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And you can prove this how? Of course Trump is drawing women to him with his infidelity to his wife right, because women just love an unfaithful man.

Always accusations and false narratives. 
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In 2020, 92% of women never heard of Rob DeSantis.  Those that have met him recently are running away from RDS in droves.

Right.   *****rollingeyes*****
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Who on God's green Earth believes anyone could get the entire nation to agree on something as divisional as abortion?

It took a special kind of dumbass to come up with something this politically asinine.  And the only thing more stupid than saying it in the first place is to defend it.
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It took a special kind of dumbass to come up with something this politically asinine.  And the only thing more stupid than saying it in the first place is to defend it.

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