Disney Pulls Plug on $1 Billion Development in Florida

[Cyber Liberty]

And it was the Peoples' elected representatives who rescinded those extraordinary quasi-governmental powers when they felt they were abused.

I cannot believe that folks are defending this plantation.

Remember when people got upset about a Company Store?

This is a store on steroids.  A plantation, if you will.

[DefiantMassRINO]

What was Disney's sin?

But, why are those powers being rescinded?

What laws or agreements has Disney violated?

How is this whole exercise not just DeSantis' personal vandetta?

What is DeSantis' legal justification or legal theory for doing this?

... just because he can is valid.

[libertybele]

And it gives Trump supporters an opportunity to post Topics just to bash DeSantis.  I did not fail to note who posted this one.

Yes indeed.

[roamer_1]

Remember when people got upset about a Company Store?

This is a store on steroids.  A plantation, if you will.

Exactly true - And a most trusted corporation historically - trusted with our children - who has decided to promote woke grooming.

INDEFENSIBLE. If it turned into a smoking crater it would not be enough.

And yet, people defend it.

[Kamaji]

But, why are those powers being rescinded?

What laws or agreements has Disney violated?

How is this whole exercise not just DeSantis' personal vandetta?

Why is motive paramount?  The only legitimate question is:  is proper procedure being followed to rescind those powers that were previously granted?

And given that this does nothing more than put Disney back on a more even playing field with other private for-profit companies, it stretches the imagination beyond all rationality to say that they are being punished for speaking out.

They are losing special privileges because they abused those privileges, and their position in the community, to impose a particular political ideology on the community.

[roamer_1]

What was Disney's sin?

REALLY?

But, why are those powers being rescinded?

What laws or agreements has Disney violated?

Howabout surreptitiously gaining control of its governing board and granting itself total autonomy forever? What agreement is left after that? That is a fiefdom right in the center of Florida with all but a named king.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Ending special treatment for large corporations is actually a good reason, but that message is not coming across clearly.

That could be a winning populist message if more clearly communicated ... but that puts him in the "corporations need to pay their fare share" camp with the likes of AOC and Bernie Sanders.

Why is motive paramount?  The only legitimate question is:  is proper procedure being followed to rescind those powers that were previously granted?

And given that this does nothing more than put Disney back on a more even playing field with other private for-profit companies, it stretches the imagination beyond all rationality to say that they are being punished for speaking out.

They are losing special privileges because they abused those privileges, and their position in the community, to impose a particular political ideology on the community.

[Kamaji]

Ending special treatment for large corporations is actually a good reason, but that message is not coming across clearly.

That could be a winning populist message if more clearly communicated ... but that puts him in the "corporations need to pay their fare share" camp with the likes of AOC and Bernie Sanders.

Well, with folks like you out there trumpeting the narrative that this is just some underhanded, weasely way of punishing poor, innocent Disney for voicing an opinion, it's not surprising that belief is out there.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Optics are optics.  DeSantis didn't start this effort the day he was sworn in to his first term as governor.

If DeSantis wants to position himself as a populist on taxes, he needs to present a platform for Payroll Tax relief and reform.

As a wage earner, my Federal Income Tax rate is higher than corporate and long-term capital gains tax rates.  It gets worse when the Medicare and F.I.C.A tax rates are piled on top of the Federal Income Tax.

Many MAGAs are being subjected to regressive payroll taxation to the benefit of the welfare state and corporations.

Well, with folks like you out there trumpeting the narrative that this is just some underhanded, weasely way of punishing poor, innocent Disney for voicing an opinion, it's not surprising that belief is out there.

[Kamaji]

Optics are optics.  DeSantis didn't start this effort the day he was sworn in to his first term as governor.

If DeSantis wants to position himself as a populist on taxes, he needs to present a platform for Payroll Tax relief and reform.

As a wage earner, my Federal Income Tax rate is higher than corporate and long-term capital gains tax rates.  It gets worse when the Medicare and F.I.C.A tax rates are piled on top of the Federal Income Tax.

Okey-dokey.

[PeteS in CA]

From what I’ve read (can’t find the link), this ~$1B project is less that 10% of Disney’s ongoing development projects. So it’s a demitasse cup in the 5 gallon bucket of Disney growth in Florida.

As for forced transfer, the people whose jobs would have been moved would have been given months or over a year to make the choice and take the requisite actions to either move or find other employment. It’s not a pleasant choice, BTDTGTTS.

My company gave us 17 months notice. After a month to get organized that included a long planned trans-Atlantic cruise (35th anniversary, not something we do regularly), it took me another 3 months to find another job (it’s like a Karen-employer ritual-statement, but my new job is better). There are lots of tech companies in Silicon Valley. Similarly, there probably are lots of entertainment companies in the LA area.

I wonder whether this decision by Disney will come to bite them. Housing costs in the Land of LA aren’t as high as in Silicon Valley, but I suspect they are high enough (and commute traffic/times awful enough) that Disney is already finding difficulty recruiting new talent out of universities. That recruiting problem was the reason my former employer shut down the division for which I worked. Telling prospects that they would have to live 2 hours’ drive from work and probably would never be able to afford a home in Silicon Valley is not a compelling recruitment message. The same is true for Disney and Land of LA housing costs.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I have to hand it to DeSantis.  He's standing on his conservative principles

What conservative principles are these @libertybele ?

[Right_in_Virginia]

And it gives Trump supporters an opportunity to post Topics just to bash DeSantis.  I did not fail to note who posted this one.

If only you knew what I could be posting @Cyber Liberty 

[Hoodat]

What conservative principles are these @libertybele ?

The ones you condemn him for.

[Right_in_Virginia]

In a society founded upon Freedom of Thought, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Worship, and individual Liberty, how can any side in the culture wars declare victory without instituting a totalitarian Government?

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[Right_in_Virginia]

The ones you condemn him for.

Name them,

[libertybele]

What conservative principles are these @libertybele ?

What originated the argument between Disney and DeSantis is the Don't Say Gay bill. DeSantis is standing his ground.

[GtHawk]

What conservative principles are these @libertybele ?

Monogamy, faithfulness, honoring a vow?

[Wingnut]

DeSantis is a Rat Killer.

[LMAO]

Actually, as included in my posts, the sources are The New York Times and an interview from the Republican mayor of Miami with The Hill @LMAO

There are dozens are reports on this out on Al Gore's magnificent Internet.  Please, feel free to post one proving your side of this debate ---- whatever the heck that may be ----- is correct.

Your "shoot the messenger" strategy is tiresome.

I’m just going by your discredited posting history

If I recall, didn’t you also post a claim of a Soros endorsement when it came to RDS? You’ve been so thoroughly discredited when it comes to anything regarding RDS on this site that yes, it is fair to shoot the messenger

Remember when you asked  other posters to defend a picture of RDS in his 20’s surrounded by girls with drinks in their hands as that being a new conservative standard when no one could confirm anything beyond it being a pic of a young RDS surrounded by girls with alcohol in their hands? Good times.

So I simply doubted anything you post regarding RDS from that point on. That’s what happens when you’re dishonest. I’ll do my own research when determining if he’s the next conservative savior or not and not regurgitated Trump talking points

[Free Vulcan]

Florida has averaged a 3K gain in jobs per month for the last year, so the 2K liberals Disney wants to move here won't affect much.

I also imagine DeSantis' stand on Disney will more than be made up by other businesses now wanting to invest in a state that rejects woke.

[libertybele]

Florida has averaged a 3K gain in jobs per month for the last year, so the 2K liberals Disney wants to move here won't affect much.

I also imagine DeSantis' stand on Disney will more than be made up by other businesses now wanting to invest in a state that rejects woke.

Nice.  Another feather in DeSantis' cap.

[Right_in_Virginia]

What originated the argument between Disney and DeSantis is the Don't Say Gay bill. DeSantis is standing his ground.

On what conservative/constitutional principle is DeSantis standing his ground  @libertybele ?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Monogamy, faithfulness, honoring a vow?

So, Ronny's at war with Disney based on the conservative and constitutional principle of monogamy?   

[PeteS in CA]

This link has the info I referred to above, https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2023/05/19/disney-cancels-1-billion-project-in-florida-but-not-for-the-reason-the-media-wants-you-to-believe-n1696612 .