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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday took a swipe at Donald Trump over abortion, chiding the GOP presidential frontrunner for failing to take a stance on what type of abortion restrictions he would be willing to support.

DeSantis — in some of his strongest comments to date on the topic — also defended his decision to sign a ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy even though it has been criticized by some Republicans as too strict. The comments set up a potential fault line for DeSantis when he officially jumps into the race for president, which could come as soon as next week.

Trump, in an interview he gave to digital news startup The Messenger published on Monday, said “if you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/16/desantis-trump-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-00097154
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Tuesday took a swipe at Donald Trump over abortion, chiding the GOP presidential frontrunner for failing to take a stance on what type of abortion restrictions he would be willing to support.

DeSantis — in some of his strongest comments to date on the topic — also defended his decision to sign a ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy even though it has been criticized by some Republicans as too strict. The comments set up a potential fault line for DeSantis when he officially jumps into the race for president, which could come as soon as next week.

Trump, in an interview he gave to digital news startup The Messenger published on Monday, said “if you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/16/desantis-trump-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-00097154

Pro-lifer thinking six weeks is too harsh??? Really??  I doubt it.    "A lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing"...what kind of gibberish is that??

Trump is starting to sound more desperate and sinking his own ship. 
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Will the meatball ever move on from social issues?  It's almost like DeSanctus is a programmed useful idiot for the Socialists.

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Will the meatball ever move on from social issues?  It's almost like DeSanctus is a programmed useful idiot for the Socialists.

So are you saying Trump is a country club Republican who doesn't care about social issues?
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Will the meatball ever move on from social issues?  It's almost like DeSanctus is a programmed useful idiot for the Socialists.

:mauslaff:

Ask and ye shall receive.  DeSantis is now authorizing assistance to Texas for the illegal alien invasion.

Then again, your need to lead with insults simply demonstrates your fear over DeSantis and the fact that, even unannounced, he's doing what Trumpy couldn't, and wouldn't.
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Will the meatball ever move on from social issues?  It's almost like DeSanctus is a programmed useful idiot for the Socialists.

???  @Right_in_Virginia Trump is the one who attacked DeSantis on this 'social issue'. It's almost like Trump is a programmed useful idiot working for the DEM Socialists against a conservative.
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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The challengers will discuss Trump's fiscal and economic failures soon enough.  I know the trumpies like to pretend 2020 didn't happen, but we all lived through it, and it absolutely sucked.

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So are you saying Trump is a country club Republican who doesn't care about social issues?

Nope.  I'm saying Trump deals with the full scope of the national and international arenas while Ronny is a myopic obsessive.

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???  @Right_in_Virginia Trump is the one who attacked DeSantis on this 'social issue'. It's almost like Trump is a programmed useful idiot working for the DEM Socialists against a conservative.

Yep.
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Hey, DeSantoids, Trump isn't attacking your little powder puff   He's questioning the political reasonableness of DeSantis signing a law with such harsh abortion restrictions while promising to do to the nation as president what he's done to Florida as governor. 

Unless, of course, you really do have a super secret plan for how any republican wins any office without votes from women and young people.




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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2023, 01:29:36 am »
Hey, DeSantoids, Trump isn't attacking your little powder puff   He's questioning the political reasonableness of DeSantis signing a law with such harsh abortion restrictions while promising to do to the nation as president what he's done to Florida as governor. 

Unless, of course, you really do have a super secret plan for how any republican wins any office without votes from women and young people.
Trump grabbing pu$$ies and raping women is a plus for his campaign.  So that is a plus for him.
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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2023, 02:25:22 am »
Hey, DeSantoids, Trump isn't attacking your little powder puff

What Trump did was to denigrate pro-lifers by saying "many people within the pro-life movement feel that [a six-week threshold] was too harsh".  Of course this is the same man who said that Planned Parenthood does a lot of good things.  As a Conservative, that rubs me the wrong way.  But then you're perfectly fine with it.


He's questioning the political reasonableness of DeSantis signing a law with such harsh abortion restrictions while promising to do to the nation as president what he's done to Florida as governor.

Abortion is a State issue, not a Federal issue.  Conservatives recognize that.  Liberals do not.  Clearly you and Trump do not.


Unless, of course, you really do have a super secret plan for how any republican wins any office without votes from women and young people.

Here's how Trump did among women and young people in 2020?

Women - Biden 57%, Trump 42%
Age 18-29 - Biden 60%, Trump 36% 


Considering Trump's track record, do you have any idea how insanely stupid it is to suggest that DeSantis is the one driving away votes of women and young people?
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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2023, 02:27:08 am »
Pro-lifer thinking six weeks is too harsh??? Really??  I doubt it.   

Every pro-lifer I know would call that six weeks too much.

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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2023, 02:31:55 am »
He's questioning the political reasonableness of DeSantis signing a law with such harsh abortion restrictions


Hardh? That ain't hardh. That's way too lenient.

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while promising to do to the nation as president what he's done to Florida as governor. 


Nonsense. He won't have any authority to do it to the nation. It's taken away from federal jurisdiction.

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Unless, of course, you really do have a super secret plan for how any republican wins any office without votes from women and young people.

Every woman and young person I know would vote to ban abortion altogether, with possible exceptions for rape and incest.

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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2023, 04:38:34 am »
Nonsense. He won't have any authority to do it to the nation. It's taken away from federal jurisdiction.

Hey, tell this to Ronny.  He's the one promising to do to America what he's done to Florida.  He's the one re-nationalizing the abortion issue.  And since he promises to never back down, look for DeSantis to next promise he'll sign a federal abortion ban.  :shrug:

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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2023, 04:50:30 am »
Hey, tell this to Ronny.  He's the one promising to do to America what he's done to Florida.  He's the one re-nationalizing the abortion issue.

Show me the quote.  I would really like to see it since Trump, the national candidate, is the one who brought it up and decided to make this a national issue.

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. . . Trump, in an interview he gave to digital news startup The Messenger published on Monday, said “if you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don’t even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.”

The former president’s comments come after a CNN town hall meeting last week, where Trump took credit for appointing the conservative Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe v. Wade. But when pressed, Trump would not say if he would support a federal abortion law and what type of restrictions he would be willing to sign into law.  .  .

The very thing you falsely accuse DeSantis of doing, Trump did.
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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2023, 06:14:43 am »
The very thing you falsely accuse DeSantis of doing, Trump did.

Wrong.

DeSantis signed a Heartbeat Bill in April 2022 banning abortion after 15 weeks.

One year later, Apr 13, 2023, DeSantis signed a second bill banning abortion at 6 weeks.  He very much wanted this bill for his run for President.

DeSantis plans on relying on the 6 week ban during the primaries.  He has re-nationalized the issue ---- returning the abortion albatross to the neck of every Republican candidate in 2024.

All Trump is doing is sending a clarion alert to sidestep this DeSantis pile of steaming political quicksand.

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2023, 06:45:57 am »
Wrong.

DeSantis signed a Heartbeat Bill in April 2022 banning abortion after 15 weeks.

A State issue.


One year later, Apr 13, 2023, DeSantis signed a second bill banning abortion at 6 weeks.

Again, a State issue.


He very much wanted this bill for his run for President.

DeSantis plans on relying on the 6 week ban during the primaries. 

Pure speculation on your part with zero basis in fact.


He has re-nationalized the issue ---- returning the abortion albatross to the neck of every Republican candidate in 2024.

Uh, no.  You are making a current statement of fact on something that hasn't occurred based on you own baseless speculation.


All Trump is doing is sending a clarion alert to sidestep this DeSantis pile of steaming political quicksand.

All Trump already did was to introduce abortion on the national stage as part of his Presidential campaign.  In effect, Trump - not DeSantis - nationalized it.  Trump did the very thing you falsely accused DeSantis of doing.
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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2023, 08:39:18 am »
Nope.  I'm saying Trump deals with the full scope of the national and international arenas while Ronny is a myopic obsessive.

DeSantis signed all sorts of bills this legislative session on all sorts of issues. Trump has mostly dealt with court cases and attacking anyone and randomly everyone with the 360 degree revolving poop cannon.
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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2023, 09:46:30 am »
Nope.  I'm saying Trump deals with the full scope of the national and international arenas while Ronny is a myopic obsessive.

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Who?  The one-term wonder who couldn’t even get a simple border wall built?  You have got to be kidding.  The idiot who thought Scaramucci would be a good staffer, only to fire him a week later?

That loser?

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Re: DeSantis snaps back at Trump over Florida’s six-week abortion ban
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2023, 06:24:12 pm »
If Donald Trump cannot get the votes of young people or suburban women, how is Ron DeSantis going to get those voters with a more restrictive view on abortion than Trump?
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2023, 06:35:48 pm »
DeSantis signed all sorts of bills this legislative session on all sorts of issues.

Stop deflecting, we're talking about Ronny and abortion bans.

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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2023, 06:36:48 pm »
Does Trump attack Democrats as much as he attacks Republicans?

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Does Trump attack Democrats as much as he attacks Republicans?

No

That doesn’t mean he does not attack Democrats. But he sure had no problem signing onto Chuck and Nancy’s spending priorities while president.
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2023, 06:46:53 pm »
Does Trump attack Democrats as much as he attacks Republicans?

In a word?  No.