Most Covid Patients Who Died in Hospital Were Killed by Ventilators, Study Finds

[rangerrebew]

Most Covid Patients Who Died in Hospital Were Killed by Ventilators, Study Finds
Frank BergmanMay 15, 2023 - 12:31 pm8 Comments


A bombshell new study has revealed that most Covid patients who died after being admitted to hospital were killed by ventilators and not the virus.

The analysis, published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, studied patients who died in the hospital during the early phase of the pandemic.

Since the pandemic first emerged, the use of ventilators was often seen as the end of the road as patients rarely recovered after being placed on one.

However, evidence now suggests that ventilators caused patients’ conditions to rapidly deteriorate, ultimately resulting in them becoming fatally ill.

The study found that the majority of Covid patients who were put on a ventilator had also developed secondary bacterial pneumonia.

https://slaynews.com/news/most-covid-patients-died-hospital-killed-ventilators-study-finds/

[libertybele]

So opting not to put COVID patients on ventilators as they struggled to breathe was a choice?? Would they not have died eventually from lack of oxygen??  Granted bacterial pneumonia was a result of being put on ventilators, but I don't see that as a cause of death rather it was the primary illness of COVID that killed them. 

There was a protocol handed down by the CDC as far as treatment while simple early treatments such as the use of ivermectin were not allowed.  I believe for the most part, this was on purpose.

The CDC, WHO and Dr. Fauci ARE responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.  I believe we are yet to see the full spectrum of what the outcome is of those vaccinated.

[PeteS in CA]

BS. Ventilators were only used as a last ditch measure. Ventilators were not the cause of death, Covid was; OTOH, patient who were put on a ventilator and recovered probably would have died, but for the ventilator. Before anyone asks, no, I was not on a ventilator, and yes, the wife of a friend was and has recovered.

Ventilators did not kill. Neither did remdesivir (which I received, and Trump also received).

[Kamaji]

BS. Ventilators were only used as a last ditch measure. Ventilators were not the cause of death, Covid was; OTOH, patient who were put on a ventilator and recovered probably would have died, but for the ventilator. Before anyone asks, no, I was not on a ventilator, and yes, the wife of a friend was and has recovered.

Ventilators did not kill. Neither did remdesivir (which I received, and Trump also received).

Seems to me the underlying lesson is avoiding absolutes.  Ventilators are an extreme measure, and I see no reason to not accept that they can kill on occasion.

[PeteS in CA]

When the patients put on ventilators would have died anyway, claiming ventilators killed anyone is pretty ridiculous. When hospitals used ventilators it really was a last ditch measure. Before doing that, at least three less invasive oxygen enrichment measures would have been tried (I was on the second level before I started recovering, so I’m not making stuff up). A ventilator being the last ditch measure, many, unfortunately, would die. And being a common last-ditch measure, many who die in the hospital will have been on a ventilator. Correlation is not causation. In the same way, almost all who die of pneumonia were on antibiotics, but the antibiotics did not, therefore, kill them.

When absurdities such as the ventilators-kill claim and the remdesivir-kills claims lead to refusing or delaying potentially life-saving treatments, the absurdities could kill.

[Kamaji]

When the patients put on ventilators would have died anyway, claiming ventilators killed anyone is pretty ridiculous. When hospitals used ventilators it really was a last ditch measure. Before doing that, at least three less invasive oxygen enrichment measures would have been tried (I was on the second level before I started recovering, so I’m not making stuff up). A ventilator being the last ditch measure, many, unfortunately, would die. And being a common last-ditch measure, many who die in the hospital will have been on a ventilator. Correlation is not causation. In the same way, almost all who die of pneumonia were on antibiotics, but the antibiotics did not, therefore, kill them.

When absurdities such as the ventilators-kill claim and the remdesivir-kills claims lead to refusing or delaying potentially life-saving treatments, the absurdities could kill.

On the other hand, we’ve had more than a lifetimes worth of absurdities killing people from the Covid-fascists, so there is that.  We’ve had a lifetimes worth of absurdities from young people having their lives derailed by the Covid-fascists - one of my nieces included, who was hospitalized for suicidal depression arising from the Covid-nazi enforced isolation - so there is that, too. 

Given that, I’m sorry but I simply don’t trust that all the doctors involved were wise Solomons with only the patients best interests at heart, and therefore am unwilling to accept platitudes about ventilators being deployed only when necessary, as viewed from some objective omniscient pov. 

[Free Vulcan]

BS. Ventilators were only used as a last ditch measure. Ventilators were not the cause of death, Covid was; OTOH, patient who were put on a ventilator and recovered probably would have died, but for the ventilator. Before anyone asks, no, I was not on a ventilator, and yes, the wife of a friend was and has recovered.

Ventilators did not kill. Neither did remdesivir (which I received, and Trump also received).

Sorry boss, my father had covid bad and ended up in the hospital because he had pneumonia before and it immediately went to that. The hospital approached us to use a ventilator on him and we said absolutely not. Another woman in their church went to a different hospital who's policy was to put people on ventilators and she was dead a few days later. One of a number we knew of.

[Bigun]

When the patients put on ventilators would have died anyway, claiming ventilators killed anyone is pretty ridiculous. When hospitals used ventilators it really was a last ditch measure. Before doing that, at least three less invasive oxygen enrichment measures would have been tried (I was on the second level before I started recovering, so I’m not making stuff up). A ventilator being the last ditch measure, many, unfortunately, would die. And being a common last-ditch measure, many who die in the hospital will have been on a ventilator. Correlation is not causation. In the same way, almost all who die of pneumonia were on antibiotics, but the antibiotics did not, therefore, kill them.

When absurdities such as the ventilators-kill claim and the remdesivir-kills claims lead to refusing or delaying potentially life-saving treatments, the absurdities could kill.

Around here they were being put on vents for no other reason than getting more $$$ from uncle sugar for doing it. And it killed many.

[DefiantMassRINO]

In March, 2020, my wife's Covid stricken uncle refused to be hospitalized because he did not want to be put on a ventilator.  He lived, but suffers with long Covid.

Ventilators are a nasty bit of business - can lead to secondary respiratory infections, like pnuemonia.

[libertybele]

In March, 2020, my wife's Covid stricken uncle refused to be hospitalized because he did not want to be put on a ventilator.  He lived, but suffers with long Covid.

Ventilators are a nasty bit of business - can lead to secondary respiratory infections, like pnuemonia.

Yes and pneumonia is the secondary illness, which killed and COVID was the primary illness.

[PeteS in CA]

The SARS-CoV-2 virus causes pneumonia. Pneumonia is a symptom, not a separate disease/condition.

[Smokin Joe]

Around here they were being put on vents for no other reason than getting more $$$ from uncle sugar for doing it. And it killed many.

IIRC, there was a $24,000 'bonus' for ICU patients with COVID for the hospitals ($13,000 for a patient, $37,000 for one in ICU). Sedate them, put them on vent, and out the back door with them a few days later.

[DB]

The SARS-CoV-2 virus causes pneumonia. Pneumonia is a symptom, not a separate disease/condition.

You were put on a ventilator when you got covid?

[Smokin Joe]

The SARS-CoV-2 virus causes pneumonia. Pneumonia is a symptom, not a separate disease/condition.

The SARS-CoV 2 Virus may cause a viral pneumonia, but it does not cause Bacterial Pneumonia, which is the COD the article mentions associated with the ventilators..

[mountaineer]

Majority of COVID Hospital Deaths Were Due to Untreated Bacterial Pneumonia
James Lyons-Weiler
May 28 2023
The Epoch Times

Hospital protocolists sticking to the strict hand-me-down highly profitable “COVID protocol” may have doomed a majority of admitted COVID-19 patients to death due to a perfect storm of institutional failure.

I first warned the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in early 2020 that because the commercial kits did not use internal negative controls there would be arbitrarily high COVID-19 false positive rates due to the abuse of non-quantitative PCR.

The majority of “cases,” I pointed out, would be false because the test was to be used as a screening device—and when you screen with an imperfect test when prevalence is low, you end up with more false positives than negatives in the set of positives.

Knowing that people who were symptomatic for respiratory infections would be among the most tested population and that Dr. Anthony Fauci’s medical approach to COVID-19 was to tell people to go home and get as sick as possible, it was readily clear that people would be dying due to lack of treatment for treatable conditions, like bacterial pneumonia and fungal infections in the lung. ...

Unsurprisingly, the study found that people with bacterial pneumonia who were on ventilators had the highest mortality.

Although their analysis restricted consideration to bacterial pneumonia cases detected 48 hours after ventilation, they did not distinguish between undiagnosed cases of bacterial pneumonia upon admission and those acquired in-hospital (nosocomial infection).

The rate of co-infection is not clear either, due to insufficient testing for bacterial pneumonia in patients once diagnosed with COVID-19. ...

This article was originally published by The Defender—Children’s Health Defense’s News & Views Website