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But I must have hit quite the nerve.

There's no doubt about it @LMAO   I think you knowingly lie.  So, yes, you hit a nerve.  It's unsurprising that you're proud of it.


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There's no doubt about it @LMAO   I think you knowingly lie; and I think liars are the scum of the Earth.  So, yes, you hit a nerve.  It's unsurprising that you're proud of it.

Lol. Comment on a position somebody took in their own post, and they become upset with you.:shrug:

But….Flak…target.  happy77

I’m now done responding to your need for attention.
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Trump pushes back on DeSantis ‘culture of losing’ comment: ‘Ron is not a winner’

BY LAUREN SFORZA - 05/15/23 8:09 AM ET


Former President Trump is pushing back on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) remarks calling on the GOP to reject a “culture of losing” in 2024, saying “Ron is not a winner.”

“First of all, I’m not at all caught up in the past. And second of all, I’m doing much better against [President] Biden than he is in the polls, and I’m doing much better against him,” Trump told The Messenger. “I mean, I’m beating [DeSantis] by 40 points in some polls, so he can talk about what he wants. And third of all, I did very well in the midterms.”

“Ron’s not a winner because Ron, without me, wouldn’t have won,” Trump added. “If I would have left it alone, he would have lost by 30 points or more.”

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4004435-trump-pushes-back-on-desantis-culture-of-losing-comment-ron-is-not-a-winner/
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“Ron’s not a winner because Ron, without me, wouldn’t have won,” Trump added. “If I would have left it alone, he would have lost by 30 points or more.”

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It is because of crap like this that Trump is going to lose.  Me, me, me, me.  He is worse than Obama.

So this one goes out to Trump:

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Just how many times have we seen this stupid trick by Trump...

I heard some folks are spreading the rumor/name/slur of "XYZ".... But I am not going to repeat the "XYZ" because I don't know if "XYZ" is true or not, but a lot of folks sure are talking about "XYZ" and I am above repeating "XYZ" even though I think "XYZ" is .... blah blah blah "XYZ"... Did you hear that in the back reporter? "XYZ...XYZ....XYZ....XYZ".
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Well, Desantis did carry the blue areas of Florida after 4 years of conservative leadership and results, despite Trump's claim of a failed state under that conservative leadership, so maybe the MAGA claim of repelling voters is BS. :shrug:
I don't see Trump bailing out of Florida like some New Yorker or Californian...

If DeSantis is so bad, you'd thing he'd have packed his bags by now.
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Also if MAGA was really popular, Dr Oz would be a Senator along with Walker and Masters. Also, Kari Lake would be Gov. Instead they lost and GOP underperformed in 2022 big time.

Exactly.

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From the article…..

And third of all, I did very well in the midterms.”


Delusional
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From the article…..

And third of all, I did very well in the midterms.”


Delusional


Yup.

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Just how many times have we seen this stupid trick by Trump...

I heard some folks are spreading the rumor/name/slur of "XYZ".... But I am not going to repeat the "XYZ" because I don't know if "XYZ" is true or not, but a lot of folks sure are talking about "XYZ" and I am above repeating "XYZ" even though I think "XYZ" is .... blah blah blah "XYZ"... Did you hear that in the back reporter? "XYZ...XYZ....XYZ....XYZ".

Watch him get worse after RDS officially announces
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That's number 3 on the list of top guesses, although not defined further.
#2 is short and pudgy
#1 is stupid, dull

And, no, Trump doesn't refer to Ron as "meatball" ---- although the same cannot be said of meme world.  Trump's sticking with DeSanctimonious.



What a crock of crappola.  Statements about Ryan and Bush... where's the proof?  A smear tactic that Trump is trying that isn't working. 

His reference to continual testing???  A lie.  Keeping FL lockdown another lie.  We are one of the freeest states.

Trump's bullying worked in 16. People now know his pathetic attempts to smear.  Trump is afraid of DeSantis and it shows.
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Just how many times have we seen this stupid trick by Trump...

I heard some folks are spreading the rumor/name/slur of "XYZ".... But I am not going to repeat the "XYZ" because I don't know if "XYZ" is true or not, but a lot of folks sure are talking about "XYZ" and I am above repeating "XYZ" even though I think "XYZ" is .... blah blah blah "XYZ"... Did you hear that in the back reporter? "XYZ...XYZ....XYZ....XYZ".


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Every time DeSantis speaks in public, he loses another swath of MAGA voters -- for life.

This is beginning to please me.    happy77

For every "lost" MAGA, he gains independents Trump will not win over, and NO GOPer wins without them.  Case in point -- DeSantis' 20-point victory in November, vs. Trump's defeat to none other than Biden in 2020.
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For every "lost" MAGA, he gains independents Trump will not win over, and NO GOPers wins without them.  Case in point -- DeSantis' 20-point victory in November, vs. Trump's defeat to none other than Biden in 2020.

MAGA was never going to vote for DeSantis anyways - even the Trumpistas on this forum have started threatening to not vote for DeSantis if Trump isn't the nominee.


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MAGA was never going to vote for DeSantis anyways - even the Trumpistas on this forum have started threatening to not vote for DeSantis if Trump isn't the nominee.

Not so sure that is true, especially in FL.  DeSantis is a very popular and competent governor that governs conservatively.  People are flocking here.  Trump's claims are bogus.  His childish smear tactics and bullying will bury him should DeSantis run against him.

Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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For every "lost" MAGA, he gains independents Trump will not win over, and NO GOPers wins without them.  Case in point -- DeSantis' 20-point victory in November, vs. Trump's defeat to none other than Biden in 2020.

Exactly.  888high58888
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Not so sure that is true, especially in FL.  DeSantis is a very popular and competent governor that governs conservatively.  People are flocking here.  Trump's claims are bogus.  His childish smear tactics and bullying will bury him should DeSantis run against him.



Fair enough.  Still, there is a solid contingent of MAGA that, in what is just another blatant act of hypocrisy, have said they will not vote for DeSantis if he, rather than Trump, is the nominee.

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MAGA was never going to vote for DeSantis anyways - even the Trumpistas on this forum have started threatening to not vote for DeSantis if Trump isn't the nominee.

They make that "take my ball and go home" noise all the time, but given the choice of a very successful and conservative, anti-woke FL governor and four more years of Biden, most of them will come around.

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They make that "take my ball and go home" noise all the time, but given the choice of a very successful and conservative, anti-woke FL governor and four more years of Biden, most of them will come around.

One hopes.

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They make that "take my ball and go home" noise all the time, but given the choice of a very successful and conservative, anti-woke FL governor and four more years of Biden, most of them will come around.

I think many are starting to realize that Trump is never going to make it into the oval office again and yes some will remain delusional Trumpsters.
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From the article…..

And third of all, I did very well in the midterms.”


Delusional

At the nomination level, yes, but his endorsees crashed and burned in the general elections... bigly. 

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I think many are starting to realize that Trump is never going to make it into the oval office again and yes some will remain delusional Trumpsters.

Definitely... there'll be a core-group of dead-enders and holdouts who will scream "foul" whenever the Orange Odin loses.

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Exactly.

The ultra orange MAGA crowd likes to think of themselves as the "silent majority", but in essence they are whiny screaming petulant little kids, who are anything but silent.  Many of us, who see RDS as an acceptable alternative to the orange noise, is really that crowd that Nixon/Reagan alluded to.

And there is a lot of MAGA I agree with, but the freakin' messenger just won't keep putting his foot in his mouth, plus he's gone off the populistic rails with Freedom City shit.  Why his adoring masses won't wake up, is beyond me.   I think it has been pretty well proven that Trump couldn't reach 50% of the popular vote even if he was running against Stalin.  Our  self inflicted wounds are keeping the dims in perpetual power. 
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I think many are starting to realize that Trump is never going to make it into the oval office again and yes some will remain delusional Trumpsters.

As opposed to delusional DeSantards, of course ----

I reluctantly voted for Trump in '16 and willingly in '20 as I felt he had this country pulled in a positive direction.

He will not receive another vote from me.  Notta.  Just not going to happen.

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Right on cue!  Wonder if the paycheck is in advance, or in arrears.