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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2175 on: January 15, 2024, 08:08:02 am »
Details about downed A-50 over Azov Sea and shot-down Il-22M

Kateryna Serohina  •  6h


On the evening of January 14, the Ukrainian Air Forces shot down a Russian A-50 airborne early warning aircraft over the Azov Sea. Additionally, they damaged the Air Command Post Il-22.

Detailed characteristics of the destroyed aircraft, their purposes, and their significance to the aggressor.

Aircraft with airborne early warning (AEW) capabilities, such as the A-50, provide military air forces with an advantage over other forces deploying aircraft in the airspace.

The A-50 is equipped with an early warning and control system that detects distant airborne targets. These systems can observe launches of cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as the operation of air defense systems.  .  .  .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/details-about-downed-a-m50-over-azov-sea-and-shot-down-il-22m/ar-AA1mYsoB



Likely, the A-50 was hit with a Patriot missile.  The Il-22 possibly made it back to a Russian airfield.  But losing an A-50 is a big deal.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2177 on: January 15, 2024, 08:24:03 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2178 on: January 15, 2024, 05:19:50 pm »
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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky has reportedly asked Swiss President Viola Amherd to organize a "high-level peace conference."
To date, the United States has sent over $75 Billion to Ukraine. About 500,000 Ukrainians and Russians have died in the war.
According to the New York Times, Russians outnumber Ukrainians on the battlefield 3 to 1. ...
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2179 on: January 16, 2024, 01:54:27 pm »
Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine calls for the elite Davos World Economic Forum crowd to join him at a upcoming "global peace summit" to bring an end to the ongoing war with Russia.

https://twitter.com/realmonsanto/status/1747254874721628420
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2180 on: January 16, 2024, 02:11:55 pm »
Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine calls for the elite Davos World Economic Forum crowd to join him at a upcoming "global peace summit" to bring an end to the ongoing war with Russia.

Russia NOT invited though. 
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2181 on: January 16, 2024, 03:58:54 pm »
More from Davos:

Biden Secretary of State Antony Blinken meets with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the World Economic Forum, the annual gathering of the world's "elites" in Davos, Switzerland

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1747276935498019319
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2182 on: January 16, 2024, 04:00:05 pm »
Details about downed A-50 over Azov Sea and shot-down Il-22M

Kateryna Serohina  •  6h


On the evening of January 14, the Ukrainian Air Forces shot down a Russian A-50 airborne early warning aircraft over the Azov Sea. Additionally, they damaged the Air Command Post Il-22.

Detailed characteristics of the destroyed aircraft, their purposes, and their significance to the aggressor.

Aircraft with airborne early warning (AEW) capabilities, such as the A-50, provide military air forces with an advantage over other forces deploying aircraft in the airspace.

The A-50 is equipped with an early warning and control system that detects distant airborne targets. These systems can observe launches of cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as the operation of air defense systems.  .  .  .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/details-about-downed-a-m50-over-azov-sea-and-shot-down-il-22m/ar-AA1mYsoB



Likely, the A-50 was hit with a Patriot missile.  The Il-22 possibly made it back to a Russian airfield.  But losing an A-50 is a big deal.

The A-50 is approximately equivalent to a USAF E-3 AWACS. The Il-22M is a command and control aircraft. Working together they could maintain control over a significant sector of airspace. The loss of the A-50 plus the significant damage to the Il-22M, plus the loss of many highly skilled crew is a pretty big deal. If Russia can replace these two aircraft in the Ukrainian theater, they may keep the aircraft farther awa to be out of missile range, reducing the planes' coverage.


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2183 on: January 17, 2024, 03:48:21 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2184 on: January 17, 2024, 04:01:18 am »
Children (18 and younger) they think of war in Hollywood way. They think they will be battling some foe, on the field of battle.

That is not what it is like at all. Most of 'combat operations' is just getting to a place, hunker down, and try hard not be killed, by the enemy or even your own kind.

Mostly, you are just waiting to die.
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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2185 on: January 17, 2024, 01:30:09 pm »
The Ukrainians have been having some quiet but spectacular "wins" by air recently.  Makes me wonder if the F-16s are in the air there now and flying, networked to U.S. aerial surveillance, or else western stealth aircraft are now operating covertly against the Muscovites?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2186 on: January 17, 2024, 02:08:15 pm »
Another Russian General bites the dust.


https://twitter.com/aborealis940/status/1746895360809705515

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This is really starting to become a "thing of concern" for Russian General Officers. Sooner or later they are going to start whispering to each other and to Politburo members about the losses.

Remember,a police state only remains a police state for as long as the military and the police go along with it. After all,in a police state,THEY are the ones with all the guns.

BTW,got a "Page doesn't exist" notice when I clicked on the link. Are Putin's Punks trying to hide this?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2187 on: January 19, 2024, 01:51:40 am »
Armor Experts Breakdown Video Of Ukrainian M2 Bradley Mauling Russian T-90M Tank

The War Zone by Howard Altman| Jan 18, 2024

Veteran armor experts explain the viral video showing Russia’s top tank in Ukraine getting torn-up by a Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

new viral video shows the crew of a Russian T-90M Breakthrough tank getting a first-hand lesson in the devastating firepower of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle’s Bushmaster M242 25mm automatic cannon. The War Zone reached out to highly-experienced armor experts to explain exactly what we are seeing in the intense combat footage and how the Bradley was able to take on Russia's most capable frontline tank.

You can read all about the Bradley and what it brings to the fight in Ukraine in this past feature of ours.

Produced by Ukraine’s 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade, which trained on the Bradley in Germany before putting the type to use on the battlefield, the drone-shot video shows Russia's most advanced frontline tank being rapidly hit with 25mm rounds at relatively close range. The video cuts to another view of the engagement, near the town of Stepovoy in Donetsk Oblast, which shows a closer look at the tank being pummeled.

A second video that appears to be from the same engagement shows the tank turret spinning out of control as it approaches a tree before slamming into it. Crew members are seen fleeing before the tank is finished off by a first person view (FPV) kamikaze drone.

An armor expert with direct knowledge of the Bradley and a Bradley master gunner told us that the videos highlight both the capabilities of the weapon and the skill of its crew.

“The Bradley Fighting Vehicle is very survivable, very maneuverable,” said the armor expert, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“It looks like this crew has had a lot of training as well as experience and is very comfortable with the Bradley and able to quickly make decisions under extreme stress when confronting a tank knowing that they're going to have to engage it. And it looks like this crew knew that they could disable the T-90 tank as its rear end was shown to them.”

Tanks are traditionally far more heavily armored at their front than their rear.

It was a particularly impressive engagement, said the armor expert, considering that the T-90M has a 125mm main gun compared to the Bradley’s 25mm Bushmaster and much thicker armor than than the Bradley, especially in the front.

The video also displays the rapid-fire value of the Bushmaster chain gun, which can spew 200 rounds per minute. It can fire two different types of ammo, fed from boxes via chutes into the autoloader.


https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1747917243416244608

More: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/armor-experts-breakdown-video-of-ukrainian-m2-bradley-mauling-russian-t-90m-tank

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2188 on: January 19, 2024, 02:06:19 am »
Armor Experts Breakdown Video Of Ukrainian M2 Bradley Mauling Russian T-90M Tank

 

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Having never been a tanker or even ever getting close to one makes this hard to believe,but there it IS.

Instead of armored protection,the tank seems more like a VERY heavy chuck of clumsy lead wrapped around the crews necks.

I actually feel sorry  for the tank crews,who  are almost certainly all draftees,other than the tank commanders.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2189 on: January 19, 2024, 02:45:47 am »
Pretty amazing considering that the Bradley predates the BMP-3.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2190 on: January 19, 2024, 05:46:17 pm »
1. While the T-90 probably has a significant immune zone against the M2's 25 mm cannon, a distance range in which the T-90's armor would not be penetrated, at close ranges penetration is possible.

2. That the three crew of the T-90 are seen running away from the tank after it crashes into a tree probably means that the T-90's armor was not penetrated - i.e. they were not significantly injured by shell fragments or spalling.

3. Many of the M2s' cannon shots can be seen hitting around the turret, where the targeting and defense systems and the smoke/incendiary grenade launchers (the grenades are counter-measures for IR-guided anti-tank projectiles) are located. The defense system sensors can move the turret, when attacked, to face the threat so as to defend against it.

Putting all that together, it looks like the Bradley(s) took out the targeting and defense sensors, so that the tank ceased firing back early in the encounter and control of the turret was lost. The dramatic explosions, especially the big one, did not pop the T-90's turret, and the crew appeared not to have been significantly injured, so the explosions were probably the smoke/incendiary grenades going off.

The T-90 was in the open and a very large target. Therefore it is very likely that the two M2 crews intentionally aimed at the turret to take out the targeting and defense sensors. More about all of the above at these two videos:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6iGTHWU1uk&t=177s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqM_LGOyugs
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2194 on: January 20, 2024, 04:39:28 am »
If it was voluntary - suck it up buttercup. I have no sympathy for you.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2195 on: January 20, 2024, 11:31:24 am »
from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/19awocm/an_interview_with_the_crew_commander_serhiy_and/

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Sadly,those two just set themselves AND their families up as targets for revenge.

Even after that war ends,and even IF their side is victorious,there WILL be people trying to track them and their families down to seek revenge.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2196 on: January 20, 2024, 06:41:00 pm »
At least they proved that spending eight hours a day playing War Thunder online finally paid off.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2197 on: January 21, 2024, 01:28:47 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2198 on: January 21, 2024, 04:53:53 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2199 on: January 21, 2024, 08:09:32 pm »
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Ruzzia has a huge rail system, along with tons of gas and oil production...would be a shame if something was to happen to all these flammable assets.

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