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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2100 on: December 29, 2023, 12:57:20 pm »
Thousands of troops remain deployed in response to Ukraine war

NavyTimes By Meghann Myers 12/16/2023

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/12/26/thousands-of-troops-remain-deployed-in-response-to-ukraine-war/

In early 2022, the Defense Department activated roughly 20,000 troops in Europe to support NATO as Russia invaded Ukraine. Going into 2024, troops are still on rotating deployments for that mission.

Deployed personnel include those from brigade combat teams in Romania and Poland. There are also plans to increase the Navy’s presence in Rota, Spain, a Pentagon spokesman told Military Times.

“Given the current security environment, there are no immediate plans to reduce these forces,” Army Maj. Charlie Dietz said.

Without a separate named operation, the increased rotations have been absorbed into the larger Operation Atlantic Resolve, which has been sending rotations into Europe since Russia invaded the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014.

“Over the past two years, the United States has made strategic decisions to enhance our military presence and capabilities,” Dietz said. “This includes an increase in NATO exercises and supportive operations with various allies and partners. Currently, there are no plans for a surge in additional capabilities, as our assessment indicates that we have appropriately sized and deployed forces.”

In addition to partnering with allies in the Baltics, Poland and Hungary, U.S. troops have set up a long-term assistance command in Germany to help coordinate rotations of training with Ukrainian troops.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2101 on: December 30, 2023, 07:37:20 pm »
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Russia has called for an Emergency Meeting of the U.N. Security Council today to discuss the “Ukrainian Attack” launched against the City of Belgorod which they claim was caused by Britain and the United States’s support for Ukraine; they further requested that the Representative from Czechia attend the Meeting due to their claim that Czech Rockets were used in the Attack, however the Representative has Refused stating that they will only attend a Meeting to discuss Russian Forces leaving Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2102 on: December 30, 2023, 07:40:20 pm »
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Ukraine is tired of Russia attacking civilian targets in Ukraine. It will lead to Russian cities and infrastructure becoming legitimate targets.

This will lead to an escalation!

Ukraine has deliberately chosen not to attack certain targets in Russia to avoid an escalation. That barrier is gone now.

Bad things coming 🔥

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« Reply #2103 on: December 30, 2023, 07:40:35 pm »
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Russia has called for an Emergency Meeting of the U.N. Security Council today to discuss the “Ukrainian Attack” launched against the City of Belgorod which they claim was caused by Britain and the United States’s support for Ukraine; they further requested that the Representative from Czechia attend the Meeting due to their claim that Czech Rockets were used in the Attack, however the Representative has Refused stating that they will only attend a Meeting to discuss Russian Forces leaving Ukraine.

Good.  Ukraine made an impact on Russia.  Putin got butt-hurt.
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« Reply #2104 on: December 30, 2023, 07:43:09 pm »
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Several Explosions have Rocked the City of Belgorod in Western Russia today causing the Death of 10 Civilains and the Injury of at least 45 others, a Movie Theater, Skating Rink, Christmas Market, as well as a number of other Buildings were Damage by the Explosions with the Cause still being Debated; the Russian Ministry of Defense has claimed that the Explosions were caused by a Ukrainian Attack using Czech-Made MLRS Rockets, while Ukrainian Sources have claiming that they were caused by S-300 Air Defense Missiles used by the Russian Armed Forces which either Malfunctioned or Intentional were used to Strike the City.


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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2106 on: December 30, 2023, 11:11:57 pm »
WORLD AT WAR
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Ukraine is tired of Russia attacking civilian targets in Ukraine. It will lead to Russian cities and infrastructure becoming legitimate targets.

This will lead to an escalation!

Ukraine has deliberately chosen not to attack certain targets in Russia to avoid an escalation. That barrier is gone now.

Bad things coming 🔥

@Elderberry

I fear you are right,and I can only see two things that will stop it.

Number 1: Putin is removed from power and replaced with someone sane.

Number 2: Putin nukes Ukraine because his ego tells him he is the Master of the Universe,and setbacks and losses are beneath him.

I honestly  don't know enough about the "Russia of today" to even guess what will happen if Ukraine starts targetting Moscow with (NON-nuclear) missiles. I AM positive that Putin will respond like any other madman would respond and order a nuclear response to even a non-nuclear attack.

I SUSPECT there are sane people in senior Soviet leadership positions that would order him arrested if he ever gave such  an order,but that suspicion is based more on hope than reason because I honestly don't even know  enough to guess.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2107 on: December 30, 2023, 11:14:04 pm »
Good.  Ukraine made an impact on Russia.  Putin got butt-hurt.

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Personally,I would much prefer to see live video of him hanging by the neck  from the Kremlin walls,with the birds and maggots  feasting on the remains.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2108 on: December 30, 2023, 11:37:58 pm »
Russia's casualty toll in Ukraine war will top half a million dead or wounded by 2025, UK says after Putin's deadly missile barrage killed at least 39 civilians

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30 December 2023
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12912171/Russia-casualty-toll-ukraine-putin-missile-barrage.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2110 on: December 31, 2023, 08:09:59 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2111 on: December 31, 2023, 04:19:00 pm »
Russia's casualty toll in Ukraine war will top half a million dead or wounded by 2025, UK says after Putin's deadly missile barrage killed at least 39 civilians

DailyMail
By JAMES CALLERY
30 December 2023
  • Defence Secretary Grant Shapps compared the scale of death and injury to the nine-year Soviet-Afghan war
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12912171/Russia-casualty-toll-ukraine-putin-missile-barrage.html




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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2112 on: January 01, 2024, 06:52:21 am »
Instead of 3 million rubles ($33000) for injury Russian conscript receives two buckets of carrots and a bag of onions

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« Reply #2113 on: January 01, 2024, 01:52:38 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2114 on: January 01, 2024, 02:39:42 pm »
This is true:



https://twitter.com/kevindavis338/status/1741818559435563219


Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2115 on: January 01, 2024, 03:29:00 pm »
Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement


Well, I think it has to do with the following factors:


1. The Paleocons and the Ron Paul supporters have infiltrated the GOP
2. Sour Grapism, a lot of people in the GOP are upset that Joe Biden and other Democrats are trying to help Ukraine. This is where I happen to agree with Joe Biden and no I don't like him.
3. This fake charade that Putin is a good Christian cause of his anti-Gay policies



It seems that history is repeating. Back in WWII, our untouched homeland played a key role in victory. But in another war, that advantage won't exist. If Russia prevails, China's Taiwan ambitions and North Korea's aggression towards South Korea could explode, leaving us in a far more vulnerable position.

I'm disgusted by people like Tucker Carlson and other 'patriots' who cozied up to Putin. This pro-Putin sentiment within the GOP is a betrayal of Reagan's legacy of strong global leadership. Imagine how he'd spin in his grave seeing the party embrace neo-isolationism and appease a tyrant like Putin. We can't let them drag us back down that path. We need to stand united against aggression and push for diplomatic solutions, now, before it's too late.

Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.











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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2116 on: January 01, 2024, 05:37:49 pm »
Yeah, that cartoon says it all.  I'm very disappointed with Republicans in general, and many Conservatives in particular, who have adopted a misguided mindset of appeasement and neo-isolationism, and have deluded themselves into believing that a Russian victory in Ukraine will have no adverse consequences for the U.S. in the years to come.  It seems that they have all forgotten their history about what happened in the 1930s and how it all led to World War II.

And I am particularly disgusted with those who have actually embraced Putin (like Tucker Carlson) and cheer him on while he robs and rapes Ukraine.  What happened to Republicans who once cherished ideas of fighting for freedom and liberty, wherever it may be?  What would Reagan say about the current state of the Republican Party?  Does anybody remember his Solidarity speech in 1982?

https://www.history.com/speeches/reagan-supports-polands-solidarity-movement

@Timber Rattler

Thank you for saying this better than I could have.

I will only  add that I am more than disappointed. I am mad as hell. HERE is the our only chance to eliminate communist dictatorship  in the USSR,and our (alleged) leaders don't have the stones necessary to do it.

Hell,they don't even have the stones necessary to support the people who ARE doing it by contributing arms and ammunition.

Just think,if Communism were overthrown in Russia,the only Communists to exist would be in China,LA,Mn,or NYC.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2117 on: January 01, 2024, 05:39:50 pm »

Well, I think it has to do with the following factors:


1. The Paleocons and the Ron Paul supporters have infiltrated the GOP
2. Sour Grapism, a lot of people in the GOP are upset that Joe Biden and other Democrats are trying to help Ukraine. This is where I happen to agree with Joe Biden and no I don't like him.
3. This fake charade that Putin is a good Christian cause of his anti-Gay policies

There are actually US Citizens claiming that Putin is a Christian???????

That says more about them than it does Putin.



It seems that history is repeating. Back in WWII, our untouched homeland played a key role in victory. But in another war, that advantage won't exist. If Russia prevails, China's Taiwan ambitions and North Korea's aggression towards South Korea could explode, leaving us in a far more vulnerable position.

I'm disgusted by people like Tucker Carlson and other 'patriots' who cozied up to Putin. This pro-Putin sentiment within the GOP is a betrayal of Reagan's legacy of strong global leadership. Imagine how he'd spin in his grave seeing the party embrace neo-isolationism and appease a tyrant like Putin. We can't let them drag us back down that path. We need to stand united against aggression and push for diplomatic solutions, now, before it's too late.

Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2118 on: January 01, 2024, 06:10:13 pm »
Look, I hate to say it, but the pro-Putin voices getting louder just feel... suspiciously convenient. Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but wonder if some folks aren't getting a helping hand from Moscow. Either way, this appeasement can't stand. We need to stand firm against Russia and its puppets before it's too late.

Yeah, I noticed that too...it all feels like astroturf.
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« Reply #2119 on: January 01, 2024, 06:13:48 pm »

There are actually US Citizens claiming that Putin is a Christian???????

That says more about them than it does Putin.


Oh yeah, just check out any of the Ukraine War threads over at TOS, especially UMCRevMom's daily threads or SunkenCivs or Speed in Texas's, or any that I post.  Putin's cheerleading section there thinks that he's doing the Lord's work.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2120 on: January 01, 2024, 06:20:20 pm »
This is true:

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« Reply #2121 on: January 01, 2024, 06:36:46 pm »
Oh yeah, just check out any of the Ukraine War threads over at TOS, especially UMCRevMom's daily threads or SunkenCivs or Speed in Texas's, or any that I post.  Putin's cheerleading section there thinks that he's doing the Lord's work.

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I'll take your word for it. Don't want to ruin my mood and end up with  a headache.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #2122 on: January 04, 2024, 06:28:40 pm »
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