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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1400 on: August 29, 2023, 03:12:05 pm »
There Are So Many Explosives-Laden Drones Flying Over Southern Ukraine That They’re Running Into Each Other


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/08/28/there-are-so-many-explosives-laden-drones-flying-over-southern-ukraine-that-theyre-running-into-each-other/?sh=647e8ab29389

This is like an RF geek's wet dream here:

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Air-defenses on both sides of Russia’s 19-month wider war on Ukraine now include drone-jammers: handheld, vehicle-mounted or mast-mounted devices that fry drones with microwave radiation, scramble the radio signals that link them to their operators or block their satellite-navigation links.

The Russian jamming is effective, Voroshnov said. “Six months ago, this was not the case: we could fly anywhere, as we wanted,” he moaned. “Now, if you enter at a low altitude, the anti-drone [systems] will definitely work on you.”


Voroshnov stressed that there are countercountermeasures—perhaps an unspoken reference to frequency-hopping controls that stay just ahead of Russian jamming.

“We find ways,” he said. “This is the kind of war here: the enemy complicates the task, you look for other ways. He closed the window [so] you enter through the back door. They invent something; we look for a way to bypass their developments.”
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1401 on: August 29, 2023, 10:08:38 pm »
Ukraine's troops pick off Putin's soldiers one-by-one in brutal close-quarters combat footage as Kyiv's counter-offensive makes more gains into Russia's Zaporizhzhia defences

    Ukraine confirmed on Monday that its armed forces had captured Robotyne
    It is the latest in a series of villages liberated as soldiers continue to push south

By Chris Jewers
29 August 2023

Ukraine's forces have pushed deeper into Russian defensive lines in the country's south, Kyiv said today, as footage emerged of intense close-quarters combat between Ukraine's armed forces and Moscow's invading infantrymen.

Kyiv launched a grinding counteroffensive in June after stockpiling Western-supplied weapons and building up assault battalions. Unlike two rapid assaults last summer, Ukraine's armies have made slow progress through dense defences and minefields.

Nevertheless, gains have been made, and on Monday Kyiv confirmed the Armed Forces of Ukraine had liberated the village of Robotyne on the southern front - the latest in a series of villages liberated as Ukraine pushes towards the Sea of Azov.

As Ukraine has stepped up its assault, Russia has stepped up its shelling. On Tuesday, Kyiv ordered the evacuation of children from five towns in the region.

Speaking on Ukrainian television, Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk said that the evacuation of children from the Vasylivskyi and Pologivskyi districts is now mandatory. Around 50 children are still though to be living in the districts.

This came as footage was released showing brutal, close-quarters fighting between Ukrainian and Russian soldiers, bringing home the reality of a war that is nearing its 19th month and showing no sign of ending.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12456657/Ukraine-troops-make-gains-Robotyne-Zaporizhzhia-counteroffensive.html

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Sadly,Russia can NOT even agree to a cease-fire because it would show weakness,and their system primarily runs on "Macho",NOT "reality.

Pooty-Poot would lose his position if he even suggested anything other than a surrender by Ukraine,with Moscow taking over total control. That is just the way their system is setup,and anyone in power that suggests changes would find himself working on a road gang somewhere in the Soviet wilderness.

For an actual lasting peace to break it,it would require another revolution in Russia,with the revolutionaries overthrowing the Soviet system.

Because of all this,the ONLY way I see "peace breaking out all over in Ukraine and Russia would be for the Ukrainians to win a massive victory over Soviet ground and air forces,and then declare they are ready to sign a peace agreement. That way the Soviets would get to claim they weren't defeated.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1402 on: August 30, 2023, 12:38:15 am »
 Biden administration announces additional $250 million in Ukraine aid as war grinds on
By Ryan King   
August 29, 2023 6:14pm

The Biden administration unveiled another $250 million aid package meant for Ukraine Tuesday as the eastern European nation’s counter-offensive against invading Russian forces grinds on.

Materiel set to be dispatched to the war-torn country include AIM-9M missiles for air defense, 155mm and 105mm artillery ammunition, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), more than three million rounds of small arms ammunition, and ambulances, according to the State Department.

“Russia started this war and could end it at any time by withdrawing its forces from Ukraine and stopping its brutal attacks,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement.

“Until it does, the United States and our allies and partners will stand united with Ukraine, for as long as it takes.”

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1403 on: August 30, 2023, 12:39:47 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1404 on: August 30, 2023, 01:18:47 am »
Materiel set to be dispatched to the war-torn country include AIM-9M missiles for air defense, 155mm and 105mm artillery ammunition, munitions for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), more than three million rounds of small arms ammunition, and ambulances, according to the State Department.

Ah, so it is an aid package for the State Department who will be getting their cut of the money through hefty shipping and handling charges.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1405 on: August 30, 2023, 02:57:58 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1407 on: August 30, 2023, 05:17:36 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1408 on: August 30, 2023, 10:49:17 am »
Zelensky's drones hit Russian regions as Kyiv suffers missile attack

By JON BRADY
30 August 2023

Vladimir Putin suffered his worst night of bombardment of the war as Ukraine hit back at Russia with a series of drone strikes deep into enemy territory. Russian military aircraft were damaged and civilian aviation was disrupted in the drone attacks, Russian officials said, citing Pskov, Bryansk, Kaluga, Orlov, Ryazan and Moscow regions as targeted, as well as Russian-occupied Crimea.

Most of the drones were reportedly shot out of the skies by Russian air defences. But the most significant attack saw drones strike Pskov airport in western Russia just 20 miles from the border of Estonia - resulting in the destruction of two heavy military Il-76 transport planes and damage to two more, reports said. Footage shared on social media showed huge explosions lighting up the night's sky over the airport that sits 40 miles from the neighboring Baltic, NATO and European Union states of Estonia and Latvia . The strikes came as Ukraine also suffered a massive overnight attack, described as the 'most powerful' barrage of missiles since the spring.

Authorities said two people were killed, as Russia claimed it destroyed four Ukrainian boats in the Black Sea carrying up to 50 soldiers. Ukraine, which has yet to achieve a major success in its summer ground counteroffensive, has struck deep into Russia in recent months, including an attack on the Kremlin in May and numerous drone attacks on civilian targets in Moscow. Ukraine typically does not comment on who is behind attacks on Russian territory, although officials have publicly expressed satisfaction over them.

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-12460519/Zelenskys-drones-hit-Russian-regions-Kyiv-suffers-missile-attack.html

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« Reply #1409 on: August 30, 2023, 03:03:40 pm »
Pskov is not very close to Ukraine. It's near the 3 Baltic countries, and closer to Belarus than Ukraine. But it was a spetsnaz, special forces, base and those spets naz now have 4 fewer transport planes. In addition to the direct value of 4 destroyed/mission-killed transports, the attack reminds Russia that its interior is within Ukraine's reach.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1410 on: August 31, 2023, 03:00:53 pm »
The only real long-term hope Russia has for a positive outcome is Trump getting into office and cutting off all military aid to Ukraine.  He's definitely given Russia a clear incentive not to compromise, which almost certainly was his goal.  Doin' favors for his buddy Vlad.

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« Reply #1411 on: August 31, 2023, 03:11:49 pm »
The only real long-term hope Russia has for a positive outcome is Trump getting into office and cutting off all military aid to Ukraine.  He's definitely given Russia a clear incentive not to compromise, which almost certainly was his goal.  Doin' favors for his buddy Vlad.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1412 on: August 31, 2023, 04:58:39 pm »
Sounds like a breakthrough might be occurring finally...

Ukraine breaks through major Russian defense lines as counteroffensive picks up pace

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4180771-ukraine-breaks-through-major-russian-defense-lines-as-counteroffensive-picks-up-pace/

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Ukrainian forces have broken through major Russian lines of defense in the southeastern region, where a slow counteroffensive has struggled for months to make rapid progress but could soon see a major breakthrough.

Ukraine is moving deeper into the Zaporizhzhia region after securing a major foothold past Russian lines, advancing forward in the direction of towns that could anchor troops even more in the southeast: Verbove and Novoprokopivka.

The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces reported Wednesday that troops have succeeded in a march toward both towns, strengthening their position and firing waves of artillery at Russian lines.

Ukraine may also have pierced the first line of defenses of what is known as the Surovikin line, named for the infamous Russian Gen. Sergei Surovikin who ordered construction of thick defenses, such as anti-tank obstacles and mine fields, ahead of Kyiv’s counteroffensive operation.

George Barros, a Russia analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, shared geolocated images of Ukrainian forces just outside of Verbove — but cautioned that they did not mean the military had breached the Surovikin line of defense.

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Also reported in the Wall Street Journal but it's behind a paywall:

Ukrainian Counteroffensive Pierces Main Russian Defensive Line in Southeast

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukrainian-counteroffensive-pierces-main-russian-defensive-line-in-southeast-9441e204?st=e3u37eksxmbrpgc&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1413 on: September 01, 2023, 03:55:14 am »
Sounds like a breakthrough might be occurring finally...

Ukraine breaks through major Russian defense lines as counteroffensive picks up pace

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4180771-ukraine-breaks-through-major-russian-defense-lines-as-counteroffensive-picks-up-pace/

EXCERPT

Also reported in the Wall Street Journal but it's behind a paywall:

Ukrainian Counteroffensive Pierces Main Russian Defensive Line in Southeast

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukrainian-counteroffensive-pierces-main-russian-defensive-line-in-southeast-9441e204?st=e3u37eksxmbrpgc&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Glad to see this.  It was only a matter of time before the orc defensive lines would be severed.  We could see some serious progress toward liberation in the coming days.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1414 on: September 01, 2023, 04:03:51 am »
Glad to see this.  It was only a matter of time before the orc defensive lines would be severed.  We could see some serious progress toward liberation in the coming days.
Not unlike the Allies breaking out of hedgerow country after D-Day. It took a while.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1415 on: September 01, 2023, 05:41:07 am »
Not unlike the Allies breaking out of hedgerow country after D-Day. It took a while.

And unlike the Allies, Ukraine doesn't enjoy air superiority.
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« Reply #1416 on: September 01, 2023, 04:36:43 pm »
And unlike the Allies, Ukraine doesn't enjoy air superiority.


From what I'm seeing, neither side has it.
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« Reply #1417 on: September 01, 2023, 07:14:04 pm »

From what I'm seeing, neither side has it.

Check the the ADS-B Exchange site periodically.  I can attest that the Uke airspace has been totally empty for over a year now.

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« Reply #1418 on: September 01, 2023, 09:48:49 pm »
Modern surface to air weapons making aircraft very vulnerable. Unless you have the tech to avoid those weapons no one wants to fly missions over enemy territory.

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« Reply #1419 on: September 01, 2023, 09:56:49 pm »
Exclusive: US to send depleted-uranium munitions to Ukraine

WASHINGTON, Sept 1 (Reuters) - The Biden administration will for the first time send controversial armor-piercing munitions containing depleted uranium to Ukraine, according to a document seen by Reuters and separately confirmed by two U.S. officials.

The rounds, which could help destroy Russian tanks, are part of a new military aid package for Ukraine set to be unveiled in the next week. The munitions can be fired from U.S. Abrams tanks that, according to a person familiar with the matter, are expected be delivered to Ukraine in the coming weeks.

One of the officials said that the coming aid package will be worth between $240 million and $375 million depending on what is included.

The value and contents of the package were still being finalized, the officials said. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Although Britain sent depleted uranium munitions to Ukraine earlier this year, this would be the first U.S. shipment of the ammunition and will likely stir controversy. It follows an earlier decision by the Biden administration to provide cluster munitions to Ukraine, despite concerns over the dangers such weapons pose to civilians.

The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

A by-product of uranium enrichment, depleted uranium is used for ammunition because its extreme density gives rounds the ability to easily penetrate armor plating and self-ignite in a searing cloud of dust and metal.

While depleted uranium is radioactive, it is considerably less so than naturally occurring uranium, although particles can linger for a considerable time.

The United States used depleted uranium munitions in massive quantities in the 1990 and 2003 Gulf Wars and the NATO bombing of former Yugoslavia in 1999.

The U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, says that studies in former Yugoslavia, Kuwait, Iraq and Lebanon "indicated that the existence of depleted uranium residues dispersed in the environment does not pose a radiological hazard to the population of the affected regions."

Still, the radioactive material could add to Ukraine's massive post-war clean-up challenge. Parts of the country are already strewn with unexploded ordnance from cluster bombs and other munitions and hundreds of thousands of anti-personnel mines............

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-send-its-first-depleted-uranium-rounds-ukraine-sources-2023-09-01/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1420 on: September 01, 2023, 10:06:14 pm »
If you want to wake up Moscow, that they are doing real damage to real people then take out their electricity.
Easy to do. Just bomb to the East of Moscow proper. Make it look like an accident. Russia is very familiar with "accidents".
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« Reply #1421 on: September 01, 2023, 10:19:58 pm »
If you want to wake up Moscow, that they are doing real damage to real people then take out their electricity.
Easy to do. Just bomb to the East of Moscow proper. Make it look like an accident. Russia is very familiar with "accidents".
We used graphite fiber munitions for that purpose in Iraq, the munitions airburst over power stations deploy graphite fibers which short out the transformers and bring the grid down.

You would think smaller versions would be drone deployable.
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« Reply #1422 on: September 01, 2023, 10:51:04 pm »
We used graphite fiber munitions for that purpose in Iraq, the munitions airburst over power stations deploy graphite fibers which short out the transformers and bring the grid down.

You would think smaller versions would be drone deployable.
I know. I agree. But it is mysterious that Ukraine has not done that.
That would be the first thing on my list. And yet, nothing?
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« Reply #1423 on: September 01, 2023, 10:54:40 pm »
Is it possible that Volodymyr Zelenskyy sees war as a profit model for him?
Is he holding back because he wants the war?
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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« Reply #1424 on: September 01, 2023, 11:32:27 pm »
Is it possible that Volodymyr Zelenskyy sees war as a profit model for him?
Is he holding back because he wants the war?

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