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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #225 on: June 01, 2023, 01:07:04 am »

Putin Hiding Out After Panic ‘Behind the Scenes’ of Moscow Drone Attack
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-hiding-panic-behind-scenes-161404741.html
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #226 on: June 01, 2023, 01:44:01 am »
Putin Hiding Out After Panic ‘Behind the Scenes’ of Moscow Drone Attack
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-hiding-panic-behind-scenes-161404741.html

Good to see some real fear being put into Putin.

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« Reply #227 on: June 01, 2023, 02:05:12 am »
Good to see some real fear being put into Putin.
It is one thing for him to be cautious, but we don't want him to be really, really, scared. People who are really afraid are dangerously unpredictable.
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« Reply #228 on: June 01, 2023, 02:16:10 am »
An interesting article on how Ukraine changed from a Soviet-style military (i.e., just like the current Russian military) to a NATO-esque force capable of resisting a much greater Soviet/Russian force.  It's worth the read.

How Ukraine Learned to Fight

Russia’s full-scale war started a year ago. Ukraine’s military started slashing its Soviet roots long before.

March 1, 2023
By Jack Detsch, a Pentagon and national security reporter at Foreign Policy.

When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine one year ago, it triggered national mobilization, international outrage, and a once-in-a-generation migration crisis. It also revealed the Ukrainian military’s slow-burn transformation from a Soviet army to a NATO-style outfit able to outfight, outfox, and out-equip its Russian foes.

After Russia’s first invasion in 2014, and during the war in the Donbas that has raged all the way through the ongoing Russian onslaught, Ukraine slowly began to revamp its military organization and doctrine, allowing it to eventually get to grips with its rival.

If the Ukrainian military had a steep learning curve, so did then-U.S. Army Col. Liam Collins. A career special forces officer and Princeton Ph.D. holder who had hopped back and forth between military deployments and academia, Collins was given a month’s notice in 2016 to join Army Gen. John Abizaid as an aide. Abizaid was a retired four-star general brought on by the Pentagon to advise Ukraine’s defense ministry as it reformed the country’s military.

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« Reply #229 on: June 01, 2023, 02:39:35 am »
It is one thing for him to be cautious, but we don't want him to be really, really, scared. People who are really afraid are dangerously unpredictable.

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And you do  NOT want to terrify someone in command of multiple nuclear devices and delivery systems.

I honestly think that things are at the point now where even the dedicated Commies in the Politburo want Put out of office because he is a genuine danger the  continued  existence of both Communism in Russia,as wall as to them,personally.

I just can't even imagine a way  for him to survive this and remain in power. I suspect that by this time next year he will be living in exile in China.
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« Reply #230 on: June 01, 2023, 02:40:09 am »

It is one thing for him to be cautious, but we don't want him to be really, really, scared. People who are really afraid are dangerously unpredictable.
"Dangerously unpredictable" is Putin's middle name. You don't get to be the head of the KGB and then take over the whole country, then start a world war, without being a serious bad ass.

If anyone in the world is going to start throwing around nuclear bombs, Putin would be at the top of that list. Especially now since he is old and ill/sick. What does he care anyway?
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« Reply #231 on: June 01, 2023, 02:59:10 am »
An interesting article on how Ukraine changed from a Soviet-style military (i.e., just like the current Russian military) to a NATO-esque force capable of resisting a much greater Soviet/Russian force.  It's worth the read.

How Ukraine Learned to Fight

Russia’s full-scale war started a year ago. Ukraine’s military started slashing its Soviet roots long before.

March 1, 2023
By Jack Detsch, a Pentagon and national security reporter at Foreign Policy.

When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine one year ago, it triggered national mobilization, international outrage, and a once-in-a-generation migration crisis. It also revealed the Ukrainian military’s slow-burn transformation from a Soviet army to a NATO-style outfit able to outfight, outfox, and out-equip its Russian foes.

After Russia’s first invasion in 2014, and during the war in the Donbas that has raged all the way through the ongoing Russian onslaught, Ukraine slowly began to revamp its military organization and doctrine, allowing it to eventually get to grips with its rival.

If the Ukrainian military had a steep learning curve, so did then-U.S. Army Col. Liam Collins. A career special forces officer and Princeton Ph.D. holder who had hopped back and forth between military deployments and academia, Collins was given a month’s notice in 2016 to join Army Gen. John Abizaid as an aide. Abizaid was a retired four-star general brought on by the Pentagon to advise Ukraine’s defense ministry as it reformed the country’s military.

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Source:  https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/01/how-ukraine-learned-to-fight/

Thanks for posting that.  The Ukrainians figured out they needed to change, and began doing so even if it isn't yet complete.  That still puts them miles ahead of the Russians.

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« Reply #232 on: June 01, 2023, 03:02:38 am »
"Dangerously unpredictable" is Putin's middle name. You don't get to be the head of the KGB and then take over the whole country, then start a world war, without being a serious bad ass.

If anyone in the world is going to start throwing around nuclear bombs, Putin would be at the top of that list. Especially now since he is old and ill/sick. What does he care anyway?
My worry would involve mobilization by the Chinese, spooled up Russian nuclear forces, and the Norks or Iranians launching first. That could be a real hairball before the ordnance stops flying, and there are plenty of places the whole shooting match could go sideways off the rails.
If the Chinese figure out a way to orchestrate something like that, look out.
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« Reply #233 on: June 01, 2023, 08:59:24 am »
"Dangerously unpredictable" is Putin's middle name. You don't get to be the head of the KGB and then take over the whole country, then start a world war, without being a serious bad ass.

If anyone in the world is going to start throwing around nuclear bombs, Putin would be at the top of that list. Especially now since he is old and ill/sick. What does he care anyway?

I’d put NK far ahead on that list.

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« Reply #234 on: June 01, 2023, 11:56:38 am »
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« Reply #236 on: June 01, 2023, 12:38:32 pm »
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« Reply #237 on: June 01, 2023, 12:40:16 pm »

Who/what is the RDK?


That is a good question.
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« Reply #238 on: June 01, 2023, 12:41:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1664234556482789376

Interesting.  Belgorod is in Russia, near the border with Ukraine, and more or less north of Kharkiv.

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« Reply #239 on: June 01, 2023, 12:42:25 pm »

That is a good question.

From wikipedia (take it for what it's worth):

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The Russian Volunteer Corps (RVC; Russian: Русский добровольческий корпус, РДК, romanized: Russkiy dobrovolcheskiy korpus, RDK) is a Russian nationalist paramilitary unit based in Ukraine. It was formed in August 2022, during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, to fight against Russian forces and the regime of Vladimir Putin.[1][2][3] The group reportedly consists of Russian emigrants who are primarily united by their opposition to Putin.[1] The group claims to be part of Ukraine's armed forces, but Ukrainian military officials say it is independent.[1] The group was described as far-right.[1][3][4][5] The current leader of the group is Denis Kapustin.[6]

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #240 on: June 01, 2023, 02:38:46 pm »
Troops Cross Into Russia as Putin's Army Fights To Defend Belgorod—Report

https://www.newsweek.com/tanks-russia-ukraine-belgorod-freedom-legion-volunteer-corps-border-1803756

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Russian fighters serving under the Ukrainian Armed Forces have crossed into the town of Shebekino in Russia's Belgorod region, bringing "heavy equipment" with them, Ilya Ponomarev, an exiled Russian politician—who says he is the political representative for the group of fighters—told Newsweek.

Ponomarev's remarks came on the heels of a statement from Belgorod Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov, who said shelling in the border town of Shebekino overnight injured at least eight people. Gladkov denied "any enemies are on the territory of the Belgorod region" even as reports emerged that tanks operated by "saboteurs" were shelling the town's checkpoint.

The Freedom of Russia Legion—formed weeks after Russia's invasion of Ukraine began in February 2022, and made up of defectors from the Russian armed forces and Russian and Belarusian volunteers—and the Russian Volunteer Corps published videos on their social media channels claiming to be near or in Shebekino on Thursday morning.


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« Reply #241 on: June 01, 2023, 02:46:23 pm »
Troops Cross Into Russia as Putin's Army Fights To Defend Belgorod—Report

https://www.newsweek.com/tanks-russia-ukraine-belgorod-freedom-legion-volunteer-corps-border-1803756

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Interesting jui-jitsu move by Ukraine.  This essentially mirrors what Russia has done in Ukraine with the putative Ukraine separatists in the east.  If the attack keeps up some momentum, Russia will be forced to divert some of its forces back into Russia, and to the north of Ukraine, to deal with this group, weakening Russian forces in Ukraine itself.

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« Reply #244 on: June 01, 2023, 03:48:12 pm »

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1664201022003204096

Where are the emergency response people? There are no firefighters, etc. Nobody.
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« Reply #246 on: June 01, 2023, 03:49:56 pm »
Where are the emergency response people? There are no firefighters, etc. Nobody.


I think that Russia is at a breaking point if it can't provide any emergency response.
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« Reply #248 on: June 01, 2023, 04:16:36 pm »
Seems that the Ukrainians has decided that Bakhmut is not worth the trouble any more, with bigger fish to fry in Belgorod.

Armed Forces of Ukraine suspended advance on flanks, other tasks performed – Ukraine's Ground Forces Commander on situation in Bakhmut

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/armed-forces-ukraine-suspended-advance-090501041.html

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine have suspended their advance on the flanks on the Bakhmut front over the past few days.

Source: Oleksandr Syrskyi, Commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in the comments for Ukrainska Pravda

Quote: "Over the past few days, the advance on the flanks was suspended, as other essential tasks were performed there. The command of our group is taking appropriate measures aimed at restoring the combat capability of our units and disrupting Russian intentions (namely, do not allow Ukrainian counter-offensive actions to happen, instead switching to the offensive themselves – ed.)

Details: In addition, Syrskyi said that Russia changed the format of the operation on the Bakhmut front; therefore, there is a temporary lull.

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« Reply #249 on: June 01, 2023, 08:37:03 pm »
Call for Putin to be replaced... on state TV: Extraordinary criticism is levelled at Vladimir on Russian channel for the first time since Ukraine invasion

Boris Nadezhdin said Russian must choose a replacement for Putin in elections

By RACHAEL BUNYAN
1 June 2023

A Russian politician has launched an extraordinary attack on Vladimir Putin, calling for the despot to be ousted from office and replaced during an appearance on state TV. 

Opposition politician Boris Nadezhdin, who has criticised Russia's invasion of Ukraine, said on Russia's NTV channel that Russians must choose a different leader in the country's 2024 elections.

'We need to choose somebody else, and not Putin,' outspoken Nadezhdin said. 'Everything will be good then.'

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Source:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12148661/Call-Putin-replaced-state-TV-Extraordinary-criticism-levelled-Vladimir.html