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Offline libertybele

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Trump's appeal in Carroll case hindered by legal trend from 1990s: Former prosecutor

Former President Trump and his lead attorney, Joseph Tacopina, signaled on Tuesday they are likely to appeal the civil liability ruling in the case brought by E. Jean Carroll, which Fox News contributor Andrew McCarthy doubted would succeed.

Trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation but not of Carroll's rape claim, which she alleged occurred at the Bergdorf Goodman department store across from Trump Tower in 1996.

Former assistant U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy told Fox News many or most U.S. jurisdictions expanded the admissibility of "propensity evidence" in cases such as Trump's, which he said can hurt the former president's chances of a successful appeal..................

..............."The reason I think that testimony and the Access Hollywood tape is admissible -- and I might have agreed with [fellow attorney] Brian [Claypool] if this was like 1990, but beginning in the mid 1990s in sexual assault and molestation cases, the federal rules were expanded to make it easier to get what's known as ‘propensity evidence’ into cases involving sexual claims of sexual assault," McCarthy said. ................

.................He said the current legal climate has made it more difficult for courts to ignore such propensity evidence as the Bush exchange without taking it into account in their ruling-on-appeal.........

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-appeal-carroll-case-hindered-legal-trend-1990s-former-prosecutor
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What is the bar for being found guilty of sexual abuse but not rape? What’s the difference?
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What is the bar for being found guilty of sexual abuse but not rape? What’s the difference?

Since this was a civil case, not a criminal case, the NY penal laws may not be directly on point, but in general, "sexual abuse" involves so-called "sexual contact" without the other party's consent - which means "any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person for the purpose of gratifying sexual desire of either party.  It includes the touching of the actor by the victim, as well as the touching of the victim by the actor, whether directly or through clothing, as well as the emission of ejaculate by the actor upon any part of the victim, clothed or unclothed."  NY Penal Law §130.00(3); §130.55.

Rape, in general, involves "sexual intercourse" without the other party's consent - which "has its ordinary meaning and occurs upon any
  penetration, however slight."  NY Penal Law §130.00(1); NY Penal Law §130.25.

So, in this case, the jury's decision would appear to indicate that they believed that the evidence demonstrated that Trump touched the sexual or other intimate parts of the plaintiff for the purpose of gratifying sexual desire, but that the touching did not involve penetration of the sexual organs.

If the evidence supports that finding of fact, then the finding that Trump defamed the plaintiff would also stand, since he publicly claimed that she lied about the entire event, not just about the claim of rape.