VERDICT returned in E. Jean Carroll defamation case v. Donald Trump

[mountaineer]

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
All rise!
Judge Kaplan: I have received a note reading in its entirety, "Verdict." Decorum will be maintained in the courtroom - no shouting, no race for the door. Those are the things that must happen. Let's get the jury.
3:04 PM · May 9, 2023

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
Judge Kaplan: Clerk will publish the verdict.
Clerk: As to battery, did Ms. Carroll prove that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll? Answer. NO
Clerk: Abused Ms. Carroll? Yes. Dollar amount: $2 million
3:07 PM · May 9, 2023

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
Clerk: Wonton disgard? Yes. $20,000.  Defamation? Yes. Trump's statement false? Yes. Actual malice? Yes. Injured? Yes. Amount: $1 million. Reputation repair program: $1.7 million.
3:09 PM · May 9, 2023

Story at NY Post: https://t.co/7C9bJcxlKl

[Kamaji]

Interesting.

[mountaineer]

Of course, it's WANTON, not wonton. That's Chinese food.

Inner City Press
@innercitypress
Clear: Wonton? Yes. Amount: $280,000.
Judge Kaplan: Juror numbers are annexed. Mr. Tacopina, do you wish to poll?
Tacopina: Yes.
3:11 PM · May 9, 2023

[mountaineer]

@amuse
@amuse
JUSTICE? U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan instructed the jury that all they have to do is conclude that Trump gave Carroll an “unwanted peck on the cheek” in order to find him guilty in civil rape case. The judge and jury are all Democrats.
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
BREAKING: A Manhattan jury just found Donald Trump liable in a civil lawsuit for E. Jean Carroll's claims of abuse and defamation but REJECTS her claim that he raped her in the 90s.
She's the lady who said "rape is sexy" on CNN.
Her lawsuit was also entirely funded by Democrat megadonor Reid Hoffman, who was recently exposed for hanging out on Jeffrey Epstein's island in 2014.


Of course, this wasn't a matter of "guilty" or "innocent." It was a civil case. But is this really a fair statement of the law?

Next question: what effect, if any, on Trump's presidential aspirations?

[Wingnut]

That old Pu$$y Grabbing comment came back to bit him in the ass.

[mystery-ak]

That old Pu$$y Grabbing comment came back to bit him in the ass.

Yep....not testifying came back to haunt him

[DefiantMassRINO]

Looks like she'll be grabbing Trump by the wallet.

[cato potatoe]

That old Pu$$y Grabbing comment came back to bit him in the ass.

I think we can change the labeling of the Access Hollywood tape from "locker room talk" to "confession."

So now we're gonna get 18 months of "he didn't RAPE rape, just sexually abused and defamed."  If Elon needs a Mars crew I will happily volunteer.

[bigheadfred]

Not surprised by the verdict since there was no bar to step over. I am somewhat surprised by the relatively low dollar amounts.

[mystery-ak]

It will be years before Carroll sees a dime...


May 9, 2023 3:39pm EDT
Trump to appeal verdict in E. Jean Carroll case, says he has 'absolutely no idea' who she is
A federal jury in NYC said Trump was not guilty of rape, but was guilty of sexual abuse and defamation

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-appeal-verdict-in-e-jean-carroll-case-says-he-has-absolutely-no-idea-who-she-is

[mountaineer]

I'd appeal, too. The judge exhibited clear bias.

Greg Price
@greg_price11
Manhattan jury rejects E. Jean Carroll's claim that Donald Trump raped her.
Same Manhattan jury then finds Trump liable for defamation for saying that he didn't rape her.
🤪
3:46 PM · May 9, 2023

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Hmph. Faith in justice system somewhat restored, at least momentarily. Shocked that a Manhattan jury would actually acquit Trump of anything. But of course I never expected him to walk away scott free.

[mystery-ak]

He never met her..thought she was one of his wives..  

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Of course, it's WANTON, not wonton. That's Chinese food.

Maybe the jury didn't like their lunch....

[roamer_1]

Hmph. Faith in justice system somewhat restored, at least momentarily. Shocked that a Manhattan jury would actually acquit Trump of anything. But of course I never expected him to walk away scott free.

Me neither - Though that is more of a judgement against the NY justice system than against Tumpy.

This kind of #metoo crap is always reject-able on its face, and always should be.
No doubt he will appeal, and win in the end.

[Smokin Joe]

I think we can change the labeling of the Access Hollywood tape from "locker room talk" to "confession."

So now we're gonna get 18 months of "he didn't RAPE rape, just sexually abused and defamed."  If Elon needs a Mars crew I will happily volunteer.

Dunno. we aren't on anything I recognize as Planet Earth now.

[DCPatriot]

Dunno. we aren't on anything I recognize as Planet Earth now.

 

[LMAO]

This kind of #metoo crap is always reject-able on its face, and always should be.

Right

You can’t come out and claim someone rape to 20-30 years after an alleged rape and expect a conviction.

The #MeToo movement had nothing to do with women and more to do with getting Donald Trump. Evidence of that is when Joe Biden was accused and the #MeToo movement ran from his accuser as fast as they could

[Bigun]

I'd appeal, too. The judge exhibited clear bias.

Absolutely!

[Right_in_Virginia]

This defamation civil suit has always been about the Benjamins ----- 

The funniest part of this is they had been playing selective video clips from Trump's deposition on a loop all over MSM social media. But, pulled them when it turned out the clips were helping Trump with the general population   

My predictions in no particular order:
* Expect those deposition clips to make an appearance on the rally Trumptron
* Look for Ms.Carroll to rapidly develop a deeper appreciation of "defamation"
* Ms. Carroll and her estate will owe Trump $50 million

[berdie]

Given the location, the fact that this  is a civil trial and the defendant, I expected nothing less.

I do hope Trump appeals...this is kooky and wrong.

These women making allegations 30 years after the fact do nothing more that throw out protestations of women who may have actually been hurt.

[libertybele]

Given the location, the fact that this  is a civil trial and the defendant, I expected nothing less.

I do hope Trump appeals...this is kooky and wrong.

These women making allegations 30 years after the fact do nothing more that throw out protestations of women who may have actually been hurt.

I hope he does appeal as well and comes out victorious.

[DCPatriot]

This is the last straw...I'm not voting for him.   /s   

[Bigun]

Given the location, the fact that this  is a civil trial and the defendant, I expected nothing less.

I do hope Trump appeals...this is kooky and wrong.

These women making allegations 30 years after the fact do nothing more that throw out protestations of women who may have actually been hurt.

@berdie perhaps you will be kind enough to explain how it is that a lawsuit in ANY civil matter can be filed thirty years or more after an alleged wrong.  I'm serious as a heart attack.

[Kamaji]

@berdie perhaps you will be kind enough to explain how it is that a lawsuit in ANY civil matter can be filed thirty years or more after an alleged wrong.  I'm serious as a heart attack.

Unless a statute of limitation or statute of repose exists, a civil suit can be brought at any time, ever.