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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2023, 03:21:49 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on May 12, 2023, 05:40:40 pm

If he didn't he would still be in office.

I think you're overwhelmed @kevindavis007    I'd be happy to help you understand what happened in 2020; and why it matters.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #126 on: May 13, 2023, 03:41:14 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on May 12, 2023, 04:36:23 pm
:mauslaff:

In other words, Trump was such a lame failure as a leader, he couldn't get anything done, and you want sloppy seconds of a lame failure.

Wow.  The cult of personality runs deep.

You're not the brightest bulb in the string, are you.    :pondering:

No worries, I enjoy how hard you try.  Kudos.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #127 on: May 13, 2023, 04:14:35 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2023, 03:41:14 pm
You're not the brightest bulb in the string, are you.    :pondering:

No worries, I enjoy how hard you try.  Kudos.


Sorry, but I don't vote for losers like Trump.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #128 on: May 13, 2023, 04:15:58 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2023, 03:21:49 pm
I think you're overwhelmed @kevindavis007    I'd be happy to help you understand what happened in 2020; and why it matters.


Well, Trump failed to prove it after losing over 60 court cases.  I'm still waiting for the Kraken to be released.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #129 on: May 13, 2023, 04:38:35 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on May 13, 2023, 04:14:35 pm

Sorry, but I don't vote for losers like Trump.

@kevindavis007

I hope you realize my post was in reply to @Kamaji 's post to me.  It wasn't to or referencing you.   happy77
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #130 on: May 13, 2023, 04:55:41 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on May 13, 2023, 04:15:58 pm

Well, Trump failed to prove it after losing over 60 court cases.  I'm still waiting for the Kraken to be released.

Actually, Trump's case wasn't presented in court .....  @kevindavis007   I think the judiciary, including the Supreme Court, running away from this and denying the Trump campaign and the American people their day(s) in court before a jury is one of the most significant travesties perpetrated.

As for the Kraken.....I still hope Sidney Powell loses her license to practice law.   :laugh:
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2023, 04:57:18 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2023, 04:55:41 pm
Actually, Trump's case wasn't presented in court .....  @kevindavis007   I think the judiciary, including the Supreme Court, running away from this and denying the Trump campaign and the American people their day(s) in court before a jury is one of the most significant travesties perpetrated.

As for the Kraken.....I still hope Sidney Powell loses her license to practice law.   :laugh:


Well Trump hires the best people.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2023, 05:01:09 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 13, 2023, 04:55:41 pm
Actually, Trump's case wasn't presented in court .....  @kevindavis007  I think the judiciary, including the Supreme Court, running away from this and denying the Trump campaign and the American people their day(s) in court before a jury is one of the most significant travesties perpetrated.

As for the Kraken.....I still hope Sidney Powell loses her license to practice law.   :laugh:

Amen!!!!!  (I know this wasn't directed to me but I completely agree).

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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #133 on: May 14, 2023, 04:38:10 am »
If there's all this uncontrovertible evidence that Trump would have won but for fraud, then why are so many of the people who made those claims -- Giuliani, Sidney Powell, FoxNews, etc.. -- unable to muster any of that evidence to defend themselves against claims of defamation, or the filing of frivolous lawsuits, etc.?

Does anyone still believe the Kraken was real?
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #134 on: May 14, 2023, 04:39:56 am »
Quote from: kevindavis007 on May 13, 2023, 04:15:58 pm

Well, Trump failed to prove it after losing over 60 court cases.  I'm still waiting for the Kraken to be released.

Some of those cases were dismissed for lack of standing, but some weren't.  There were also some affirmative legal actions taken against some of those who made some of those claims.  The hard evidence just isn't there.  A lot of circumstantial stuff, but too much of it was ambiguous/inconclusive.

There is a difference between what you "believe" is true, and what you can prove is true.
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Re: DeSantis says Trump deploying ‘Democrat attacks’ on Social Security, Medicare
« Reply #135 on: May 14, 2023, 03:28:35 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on May 14, 2023, 04:38:10 am
If there's all this uncontrovertible evidence that Trump would have won but for fraud, then why are so many of the people who made those claims -- Giuliani, Sidney Powell, FoxNews, etc.. -- unable to muster any of that evidence to defend themselves against claims of defamation, or the filing of frivolous lawsuits, etc.?

Their chief mistake was their legal strategy.  It would have been an easy task to sue for legal violations and improprieties in the election process.  In Georgia, there were blatant violations of State election law beginning in April 2020.  But that is not what the Trump advocates sued for.  No, their main point of attack was driven by Trump's ego.  Fraud, fraud, fraud.  Trump, Trump, Trump.  Trump was robbed.  Trump was defrauded.  This was their legal challenge.  Unfortunately, fraud is a hell of a lot more difficult to prove than proving that more drop boxes were put in place than state law allows, that chain of custody rules were not followed, and that changes were made to election software without recertifying.

Trump should have seen this coming a year prior.  But he chose to fill his ranks with GOP Establishment types who were part of the problem instead of relying on those vested in fixing the system.
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