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Dunno...California has been doing a bang-up job.

California's malfeasance only hurts California. Federal malfeasance effects everyone.
Send it back to the states.

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California's malfeasance only hurts California. Federal malfeasance affects everyone.


Until the other states are forced to bail them out. I believe that’s what  California is banking on with this reparations proposal
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Until the other states are forced to bail them out. I believe that’s what  California is banking on with this reparations proposal

Sure. The device to do that with will be federal. States have no obligation to other states.

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Trump is leading the GOP field by 41 points and he’s beating Biden handily in a rematch

They’re trying to put him in federal prison while a million man invasion in happening in Texas

Anybody who’s still pushing for a divisive primary does not have our best interest in mind

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Again, at this stage of the game, who cares. 
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Trump is leading the GOP field by 41 points and he’s beating Biden handily in a rematch

They’re trying to put him in federal prison while a million man invasion in happening in Texas

Anybody who’s still pushing for a divisive primary does not have our best interest in mind

11:19 AM · May 9, 2023


Neither does anyone who is pushing Trump.  A second Trump term will be an unmitigated disaster; far worse than his parlous first term.

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johnny maga
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Trump is leading the GOP field by 41 points and he’s beating Biden handily in a rematch

They’re trying to put him in federal prison while a million man invasion in happening in Texas

Anybody who’s still pushing for a divisive primary does not have our best interest in mind

11:19 AM · May 9, 2023

Couldn't agree more.  And the one who is determined to make the primaries divisive is Trump himself.

The GOP has never had a problem in the past rallying around the winner of the primary. And that's because Republican contenders for the nomination generally went scorched earth only against Democrats, not against fellow Republicans.  Against other Republicans, they'd simply state their policy differences and argue why they were the best alternative, not why everyone else would be such a horrible alternative.

Trump has deliberately chosen to go scorched earth against anyone who dares to challenge him in the primaries.  And in fact, most of his supporters cheer him on when he does that. They celebrate his attacks on other Republicans as evidence that he is a take no prisoners, tough guy.  So it is Trump, and Trump alone, who would be responsible for a divisive primary.  And it is his supporters who actuallly cheer on his divisiveness.

Of course, Trump doesn't care if the primaries are divisive as long as he is the nominee.  And that's a perfect example of why it is Trump who "does not have our best interests at heart."
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It is utterly remarkable how Trump supporters who are so quick to label other people as snowflakes, and so quick to celebrate Trump as a "fighter", are so outraged that anyone in the GOP uses his own tactics against him.

Trump is the ultimate snowflake.  I don't think I've ever heard any politician, Republican or Democrat, whine as much when he is criticized as does Trump.

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A second Trump term will be an unmitigated disaster

Only for those who object to peace, prosperity, security, freedom and strength.

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I don't think ....

This  pointing-up  is the essence of your post, minus the usual spam.

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Cutting Social Security and Medicare sounds like a great idea when a conservative is a member of the House of Reps, but not so much when running for President.

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Couldn't agree more.  And the one who is determined to make the primaries divisive is Trump himself.

The GOP has never had a problem in the past rallying around the winner of the primary. And that's because Republican contenders for the nomination generally went scorched earth only against Democrats, not against fellow Republicans.  Against other Republicans, they'd simply state their policy differences and argue why they were the best alternative, not why everyone else would be such a horrible alternative.

Trump has deliberately chosen to go scorched earth against anyone who dares to challenge him in the primaries.  And in fact, most of his supporters cheer him on when he does that. They celebrate his attacks on other Republicans as evidence that he is a take no prisoners, tough guy.  So it is Trump, and Trump alone, who would be responsible for a divisive primary.  And it is his supporters who actuallly cheer on his divisiveness.

Of course, Trump doesn't care if the primaries are divisive as long as he is the ninee  And that's a perfect example of why it is Trump who "does not have our best interests at heart."

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Cutting Social Security and Medicare sounds like a great idea when a conservative is a member of the House of Reps, but not so much when running for President.

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Guess that makes Trump one of those go along to get along kind of guys, right?  Afraid to say or do what's right because of the political reaction.

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This  pointing-up  is the essence of your post, minus the usual spam.

And the essence of your post once again avoids addressing the substance of the post you are attacking.

At least you're consistent.

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Trump was never a fiscal conservative.  He was always profligate with Other People's Money.

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While I don't expect DeSantis to come out with any national policy statements since he hasn't declared, I can't find any articles on what legislation he has written or proposed for Florida.

All I could find were articles on bills he has signed. That doesn't show me much.

If he declares he will have to do some talking to convince me he would be something more than a DC toady. A rubber stamp man.

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   DeSantis was first elected to the US House as a Tea Party Candidate as opposed to Trump, the Preparation H Candidate.
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   DeSantis was first elected to the US House as a Tea Party Candidate [...]

And a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus...

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While I don't expect DeSantis to come out with any national policy statements since he hasn't declared, I can't find any articles on what legislation he has written or proposed for Florida.

All I could find were articles on bills he has signed. That doesn't show me much.

If he declares he will have to do some talking to convince me he would be something more than a DC toady. A rubber stamp man.

Rubberstamp Ron.


Ok, so what is Trump's proposal to help Social Security and Medicare?


Why didn't Trump do anything about it the first time he was President?
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Ok, so what is Trump's proposal to help Social Security and Medicare?


Why didn't Trump do anything about it the first time he was President?

For starters:

Trump payroll plan would deplete Social Security by 2023: Administrator

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/513556-trump-payroll-plan-would-deplete-social-security-by-2023-administrator/
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Ok, so what is Trump's proposal to help Social Security and Medicare?


Why didn't Trump do anything about it the first time he was President?

I believe Trump's current stance is to not touch SS/Medicare. His first time around was for cuts.

Trump will say whatever he thinks will be politically expedient at the time. And for now, it is no changes.

Ultimately it is up to Congress.
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I believe Trump's current stance is to not touch SS/Medicare. His first time around was for cuts.

Trump will say whatever he thinks will be politically expedient at the time. And for now, it is no changes.

Ultimately it is up to Congress.


So passing the buck right?
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So passing the buck right?

Right. Sort of. I found this article from a couple of months ago. It is from Politico.

Trump ties GOP in knots over Medicare and Social Security

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/01/trump-gop-medicare-social-security-00084845
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I believe Trump's current stance is to not touch SS/Medicare. His first time around was for cuts.

Trump will say whatever he thinks will be politically expedient at the time. And for now, it is no changes.

Ultimately it is up to Congress.

Politically expedient or politically convenient?  Accusing DeSantis of the wheelchair crappola is deceitful and doesn't accomplish a darn thing. 

Trump had his chance as president to address this situation; especially with a full majority his first two years.
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