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As much as it would pain me to see these traitors die as free people,I agree. Put them on the back burner,and focus on our economy and our defense systems because like it or not,the Chinese ARE going to be coming after us. Maybe not in a military sense,but at a minimu,and economic sense.

And why not? After all,our industrialists have already given them out technology,our tooling,and our experience so they can manufacture American goods to sell to America and the world.

In an idea world,these CEO's would end up going on trial for treason,and hanged when/if found guilty.

Yeah, they focus on stealing our scientific advancements. We focus on bearded ladies, DEI quotas, ESG, and wokeness.

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And still the boogyman Sessions remains tight lipped about saying anything bad about Trump, yet Trump folks derided him and mocked him and say little about Trumps choice for replacement here. Sessions was a good man, still is.
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As much as it would pain me to see these traitors die as free people,I agree. Put them on the back burner,and focus on our economy and our defense systems because like it or not,the Chinese ARE going to be coming after us. Maybe not in a military sense,but at a minimu,and economic sense.

Democrats going after Trump with these criminal cases actually helpeds Trump in the GOP primary.  And if we go after a bunch of has-beens who are in their 80's, two of whom probably have dementia, how is the rest of the country going to view our priorities?  We'd rather punish a bunch of out of power geezers than actually fix the country?  All we'd do is help the Democrats.

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If we're headed towards civil war, let's hurry up and get there. What better way to do that then round up the oppositional leaders? Hehe.

You really think Trump, or Desantis, or some new savior Reagan can fix the country at this point?

It's at least worth trying, isn't it?  I don't know about you, but I've got 4 kids and a grandkid.  The idea of "let it all burn down" doesn't sound so great for them.

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He is saying that like it would be a BAD thing.


Sorry, but having Chaos in this country is BAD!
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Sorry, but having Chaos in this country is BAD!

We already have chaos.
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It's at least worth trying, isn't it?  I don't know about you, but I've got 4 kids and a grandkid.  The idea of "let it all burn down" doesn't sound so great for them.

I have a 4 year old son actually. This country is a sick and sickening place now, beyond redemption.

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Sorry, but having Chaos in this country is BAD!

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True. Much mo betta to have order like the Chinese have,huh?

Maybe we can get some of the Chinese Biden got paid to allow into the US to teach us how to do that?
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Sorry, but having Chaos in this country is BAD!

Look at Chicago. Los Angeles. Portland. Trump is the one bringing chaos?

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We already have chaos.

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Thank you,and we are not only going to retain it,it is going to get worse unless some changes take place.
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True. Much mo betta to have order like the Chinese have,huh?

Maybe we can get some of the Chinese Biden got paid to allow into the US to teach us how to do that?

Strawman  much?

Nobody’s advocating for the Chinese system. Germany was chaotic after WW1 and they ended up with Hitler. That’s why chaos is bad

Do you think the majority of the public want a chaotic country?
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But look who he'd be going after - a retired 85 year old Nancy Pelosi, an irrelevant and loathed by both sides Hillary Clinton, and an 82 year old, dementia ridden Joe Biden who just lost his re-election and is out of politics.

Spending political capital chasing down those three instead of trying to fix the country, or at least fighting those folks on the other side who are still engaged and active, seems like a complete waste of time.   And very likely perceived that way by most voters.
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90 year old Nazis are still being executed all over the world. Should we just throw our hands up and say, 'they are too old' to be punished? Age has nothing to do with the crimes they committed.

Yup
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Strawman  much?

Nobody’s advocating for the Chinese system.

Obviously NOT true. There  has  ALWAYS been someone advocating slavery as the ideal form of government. Mostly the people who will  be served by the slaves.

 

Do you think the majority of the public want a chaotic country?

See,even YOU are demanding "order".

Now,tell me  what the conditions in Germany were that allowed Nazism to take over.
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Strawman  much?

Nobody’s advocating for the Chinese system.

Obviously NOT true. There  has  ALWAYS been someone advocating slavery as the ideal form of government. Mostly the people who will  be served by the slaves.

 

Do you think the majority of the public want a chaotic country?

See,even YOU are demanding "order".

Now,tell me  what the conditions in Germany were that allowed Nazism to take over.

Your arguments are very dizzying

Of course, people want order. They want a stable political system and a stable economic system. They want law and order. Chaotic systems do not work

Read the history of Germany post World War I end before the rise of the NAZI Party
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I think the MAGA’s know that Trump cannot win a national election. And they’re OK with that as long as they stand behind Trump. Which  is OK, as I guess convictions are stronger than winning.  But then how do they expect to enact any kind of change if they don’t win elections? How do you get anything passed when you don’t have the ability to form coalitions and convince people why your ideas are the better? Chaos and bomb throwing doesn’t do it.

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Your arguments are very dizzying

Of course, people want order. They want a stable political system and a stable economic system. They want law and order. Chaotic systems do not work

Read the history of Germany post World War I end before the rise of the NAZI Party


That and look what happened to France after the French Revolution that lead to Napoleon taking over that country. 


I'm sorry but chaos in the country is not going to be good for this country LONG TERM.


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That's a good example of the kind of things that would distract Trump from getting anything of real substance actually accomplished.

Hillary, Pelosi, and the Bidens would all be has-beens irrelevant to the future of the country in 2025.  And exactly who is going to make the decision to prosecute them?  Trump himself?  The guy has the attention span of a gnat.
Trump or no trump, what we are seeing is a pervasive rot in our government, enabled by the Unconstitutional concentration of power in an entrenched bureaucracy which has taken on the powers of legislation, enforcement, and judgement to itself. It is this tumor, this tyranny, which wraps itself in the trimmings of a Republic and goes through the theater of elections (although not so much entrusted to the people any more), which is the real threat.

Yes we have problems, but rather than paint the nails and get the dye job, how about we make sure the patient lives.  Until the tumor is removed (which Barr would see as "chaos"--he's been part of it for a while). No other problems will be able to be solved.

If that means prosecuting doddering old people who have lived high on the hog their working lives on our dime in the creation of this evil, so be it. Let them serve their sentences in a max security home, not of their own devising. It is the acts which must be deterred, prosecuted and punished, and those who did them did them.
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That and look what happened to France after the French Revolution that lead to Napoleon taking over that country. 


I'm sorry but chaos in the country is not going to be good for this country LONG TERM.


This Bull in the China shop may sound good on Talk Radio, but in practice, it isn't good.


Well, we only have to look at our own inner cities to see chaos. Chaos and a lack of order

Anybody wanna argue that that’s a positive?
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Well, we only have to look at our own inner cities to see chaos. Chaos and a lack of order

Anybody wanna argue that that’s a positive?


To me, it isn't. I don't why people think that having Chaos in this country is a good thing.  It may sound good on talk radio, but in the real world, it isn't.
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That worry about “chaos” is unwarranted, because there is no way Trump will be elected again.  He may very well gain the GOP nomination, but he has lost the independent voters and suburbanite women. 

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I hold no great hope for ANY Republican being elected to the presidency any time soon.

The mechanisms by which elections have been manipulated in the past still exist, and will remain in force, especially in critical states for the electoral college. The mechanism to even complain about those electoral votes has been subverted thanks to the instigators of 1/6 and Mike Pence hustling past that part of the proceedings.

Until those things change, and that precedent is reversed, it just isn't happening. That won't stop me from voting my conscience, but at the same time I recognize that it is reduced to a mere gesture and one more ballot for the Democrats to one up with in order to negate that vote--and they bring them in by the truckload, if they don't just reassign the numbers with the machines.
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Before we need worry about the Me First Populism chaos amongst the DC ideologues a second Trump term would bring, we need to worry about the chaos currently being brought on the country by Biden.
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I hold no great hope for ANY Republican being elected to the presidency any time soon.

The mechanisms by which elections have been manipulated in the past still exist, and will remain in force, especially in critical states for the electoral college. The mechanism to even complain about those electoral votes has been subverted thanks to the instigators of 1/6 and Mike Pence hustling past that part of the proceedings.

Until those things change, and that precedent is reversed, it just isn't happening. That won't stop me from voting my conscience, but at the same time I recognize that it is reduced to a mere gesture and one more ballot for the Democrats to one up with in order to negate that vote--and they bring them in by the truckload, if they don't just reassign the numbers with the machines.


The only reason that a Republican can't win either a state-wide office or the Presidency has to do with the quality of the candidate. Not the so-called cheating. 
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The only reason that a Republican can't win either a state-wide office or the Presidency has to do with the quality of the candidate. Not the so-called cheating.


I would be happy to test that theory. Hopefully, this time around.  happy77