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The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« on: May 05, 2023, 03:34:00 pm »
The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat

Vivek Ramaswamy, the Republican wunderkind running for his party’s presidential nomination, would like potential supporters to know he believes in the rule of law and the Constitution’s separation of powers — though his applications of such principles can seem selective.

After intense study of the Constitution, Mr. Ramaswamy says he believes that the awesome powers of the presidency would allow him to abolish the Education Department “on Day 1,” part of an assault on the “administrative state” that his 2024 rival, Donald J. Trump, fell short on during Days 1 through 1,461 of his presidency. Never mind that the Constitution confers the power of the purse on Congress, and a subsequent law make it illegal for the president not to spend that money.......

........In short, Mr. Ramaswamy, a lavishly wealthy 37-year-old entrepreneur and author pitching himself as a new face of intellectual conservatism, is promising to go farther down the road of ruling by fiat than Mr. Trump would or could....

..........His overt shots at Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, whom he labels a visionless “implementer” without the courage to venture into the hostile territories of college campuses or NBC News, are intended to clear what he sees as an eventual showdown with Mr. Trump. His brashest criticism of the former president is over Mr. Trump’s suggestion that he might skip primary debates, depriving Mr. Ramaswamy of the stage he says he needs to catch his rival...............

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/05/us/politics/vivek-ramaswamy.html
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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2023, 03:41:48 pm »
NY Times?  Consider the source.

That being said, Mr. "EO" Biden is the one ruling by fiat.

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2023, 03:47:38 pm »
No corporate CEO believes in the Constitution’s separation of powers.  That's why they can be such terrible Governors or Presidents.

Corporations are executive dictatorships.  People who disagree, or say "no", can be unilateraly dismissed.  Constitutionally, the President doesn't have the unilateral authority to dismiss Congress, the Courts, or Career Conditional Federal Employees ... yet.

Some Dominant A-type personalities would prefer to destroy the Congress, the Courts, and Federal Civil Service rather than be obstructed by their obstinance.

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2023, 04:06:03 pm »
No corporate CEO believes in the Constitution’s separation of powers.  That's why they can be such terrible Governors or Presidents.

Corporations are executive dictatorships.  People who disagree, or say "no", can be unilateraly dismissed.  Constitutionally, the President doesn't have the unilateral authority to dismiss Congress, the Courts, or Career Conditional Federal Employees ... yet.

Some Dominant A-type personalities would prefer to destroy the Congress, the Courts, and Federal Civil Service rather than be obstructed by their obstinance.



What are you bloviating about?

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2023, 04:10:37 pm »
No corporate CEO believes in the Constitution’s separation of powers.  That's why they can be such terrible Governors or Presidents.

Corporations are executive dictatorships.  People who disagree, or say "no", can be unilateraly dismissed.  Constitutionally, the President doesn't have the unilateral authority to dismiss Congress, the Courts, or Career Conditional Federal Employees ... yet.

Some Dominant A-type personalities would prefer to destroy the Congress, the Courts, and Federal Civil Service rather than be obstructed by their obstinance.

Meh, are politicians doing much better?

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2023, 08:59:01 pm »
After intense study of the Constitution, Mr. Ramaswamy says he believes that the awesome powers of the presidency would allow him to abolish the Education Department “on Day 1,”

Then he shares with Trump a fatal ignorance of how the legal/constitutional system actually works.   That makes them the kind of guys who will make lots and lots of promises, but consistently fail to follow through on most of them.

DeSantis understands that you have to understand how the entire system works legally if you're going to have any hope of fixing it.  Good intentions alone get you nowhere.

Best example of that is how he has worked through both the legal system and the regulatory system in Florida to battle CRT, DEA, and the rest of it.

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2023, 09:10:17 pm »
Then he shares with Trump a fatal ignorance of how the legal/constitutional system actually works.   That makes them the kind of guys who will make lots and lots of promises, but consistently fail to follow through on most of them.

DeSantis understands that you have to understand how the entire system works legally if you're going to have any hope of fixing it.  Good intentions alone get you nowhere.

Best example of that is how he has worked through both the legal system and the regulatory system in Florida to battle CRT, DEA, and the rest of it.

Trump went into the presidency thinking he could run a country like one of his Corporations.  The duties and limitations of the Executive Branch are outlined in the Constitution.  Seems that those powers are stretched a bit or overlooked these days.
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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2023, 09:15:13 pm »
What are you bloviating about?

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2023, 09:27:52 pm »
Then he shares with Trump a fatal ignorance of how the legal/constitutional system actually works.   That makes them the kind of guys who will make lots and lots of promises, but consistently fail to follow through on most of them.

DeSantis understands that you have to understand how the entire system works legally if you're going to have any hope of fixing it.  Good intentions alone get you nowhere.

Best example of that is how he has worked through both the legal system and the regulatory system in Florida to battle CRT, DEA, and the rest of it.


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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 10:26:03 pm »
I looked at the source of this article.
Then... I stopped reading, right there.

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Re: The Smooth-Talking Republican Who Would Rule by Fiat
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2023, 11:09:44 pm »
Then he shares with Trump a fatal ignorance of how the legal/constitutional system actually works.   That makes them the kind of guys who will make lots and lots of promises, but consistently fail to follow through on most of them.

DeSantis understands that you have to understand how the entire system works legally if you're going to have any hope of fixing it.  Good intentions alone get you nowhere.

Best example of that is how he has worked through both the legal system and the regulatory system in Florida to battle CRT, DEA, and the rest of it.

That's right.