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LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« on: April 04, 2023, 01:08:41 pm »
Video No-Show: NY Judge Bans Live Courtroom Coverage of Trump Arraignment

A handful of press photographers will be allowed to take pictures in the New York courtroom where former President Donald Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday while video news cameras have been banned from providing live coverage.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/video-no-show-ny-judge-bans-live-courtroom-coverage-of-trump-arraignment/
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Re: LIVE THREAD.. Trump Surrenders
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2023, 01:10:30 pm »
 Trump arraignment may reveal dozens of charges over Daniels payments
by Rebecca Beitsch - 04/04/23 6:00 AM ET

Former President Trump is expected to face what could be more than two dozen counts across different charges as he makes his first appearance in court Tuesday, following an indictment in connection with concealing hush money payments to an adult film star.

The charges will be revealed when Trump is arraigned in Manhattan. In the brief courtroom exchange, Judge Juan Merchan will read aloud the laws the former president is alleged to have violated, while Trump is expected to plead not guilty.

The criminal charges stem from a $130,000 payment made to Stormy Daniels by Trump fixer Michael Cohen. Though hush money payments are not illegal, the manner in which Trump and Cohen concealed the payments could be, casting the reimbursements as legal expenses.

Reports indicate Trump could face charges on more than 30 counts from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D).

The potential for dozens of charges likely reflect Trump’s lengthy payment history with Cohen – spread out over about a year – as well as the track prosecutors take in tying the misdemeanor records falsification to a felony that could include both tax fraud and campaign finance violations.

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2023, 01:15:07 pm »
Cohen and Kinzinger must be long lost brothers. Too damned similar not to be.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2023, 01:15:23 pm »
Trump lashes out on eve of arraignment, calls for Bragg to ‘indict himself’ over ‘illegal’ leaks

On the eve of his arraignment before a New York Supreme Court Judge, former President Trump lashed out online, asserting his innocence and calling for the Manhattan prosecutor leading the case to be indicted over “illegal” leaks.

Trump accused Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) of having leaked “the various points, and complete information, on the pathetic indictment against me,” claiming that the still-sealed indictment includes 33 counts against him.

“I know the reporter and so, unfortunately, does he. This means that he MUST BE IMMEDIATELY INDICTED. Now, if he wants to really clean up his reputation, he will do the honorable thing and, as District Attorney, INDICT HIMSELF,” Trump said in a post on his Truth Social platform.

“D.A. BRAGG JUST ILLEGALLY LEAKED THE 33 points of Indictment. There are no changes or surprises from those he leaked days ago directly out of the Grand Jury. No Crime by Trump. What a MESS. Bragg should resign, NOW!” he added in another post.

Reports have indicated Trump could face charges on around 30 counts in the case, related to his alleged role in hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels to quell her allegations of an affair, which Trump denies, amid his 2016 presidential campaign.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2023, 01:17:06 pm »
A timeline of what to expect for Trump’s Tuesday arraignment

Former President Donald Trump is expected to turn himself in Tuesday to the Manhattan District’s Office for his arraignment, which is scheduled at 2:15 p.m.

The former president will likely use a side entrance to the courthouse at 1 Hogan Place that is not accessible to the public around 1 p.m., roughly an hour before legal proceedings are set to begin.

The arraignment, which will be presided over by Justice Juan Merchan, will take about 15 to 30 minutes, while Trump is expected to plead not guilty to charges revolving around alleged hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels.

Heavy security is expected around the building with a limited amount of press, who will be thoroughly searched, allowed into the facility. The former president will be escorted to the courtroom for the arraignment, then is expected to leave the same way he came in.

From there, Trump plans to fly back to his Florida home to deliver remarks later this evening, though a potential gag order could limit what the former president is able to reveal about his case.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2023, 01:53:31 pm »
Those '34 Charges' Against Trump May Not Be What They Seem
By Nick Arama | 1:00 AM on April 04, 2023


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But I want to re-up my comments from Saturday when I said this “charge stacking” is likely what would happen. Prosecutors can try to charge as many things as they can, even if those charges only pertain to one incident. So let’s assume for the moment in this alleged “falsification of business records” charge, that Trump had to file a form that had signatures or initials on the same form multiple times. Each signature/initial could be counted as a potential charge, even if it’s all on the same form and just one incident. So if you had a 34-page form with signatures or initials on each page, you could potentially make 34 charges out of it. We’ll know when we see the real indictment to see precisely what they are talking about. It’s also a bit of flooding of the jury, all they would have to agree to is one to convict. This increases that possibility.

But I think this is mostly about making Trump look bad to the public and the potential jury pool. It’s about having people go “34 charges!!!” and say how awful Trump is, when it all may apply just to the one matter. It’s trying to make the turkey of a case look like it’s something more than it is by buffaloing people with the number. I think it’s more evidence of the bias in this matter, as this shows Bragg trying to throw everything and anything against the wall to try to make something stick when what he truly has is a legally pathetic case.

Then the report says that they’re Class E felonies. That’s the lowest felony. As we noted, he’s already may be bootstrapping this matter by taking what would be a misdemeanor ordinarily and trying to make it a felony. But that raises questions about how he’s charging that, if it’s truly a federal crime (and thus not properly charged here in New York), and if there are statute of limitations issues that he’s trying to get around in this endeavor. As I wrote, Trump’s attorney has already said he’s going to move to have the case dismissed. Those issues and others may factor into any such motion, depending on what the indictment shows on Tuesday.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2023, 01:59:38 pm »
Judge Juan Merchan to allow 5 photographers in the courtroom for 'several minutes,' no video cameras during Trump arraignment

The Post Millennial / Apr 4, 2023

New York Judge Juan Merchan ruled on Monday night that no video cameras will be allowed in the courtroom where former President Donald Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday and that only a handful of photographers will be allowed to take pictures.

According to ABC News, Merchan issued the ruling after Trump’s legal team argued against having cameras in the courtroom, claiming it would create a “circus-like atmosphere at the arraignment, raise unique security concerns, and is inconsistent with President Trump’s presumption of innocence.”

Trump’s lawyer Joe Tacopina said, "We don't normally allow cameras in courtrooms why make an exception now? To make a spectacle. They want that. We don’t."

Additionally, five still photographers will be allowed in the courtroom for several minutes before being vacated from the room and no electronic devices will be allowed in the main or overflow courtrooms.

Merchan wrote in the decision, "that this indictment involves a matter of monumental significance cannot possibly be disputed. Never in the history of the United States has a sitting or past President been indicted on criminal charges."

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2023, 02:19:58 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2023, 02:26:19 pm »
Report: Media in Place for Trump’s Arraignment Since Monday, Hired Professional Line Holders

Media outlets had representatives lining up in New York for former President Donald Trump’s arraignment at least 24-hours before his Tuesday appearance, according to a reporter.

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2023, 02:27:14 pm »
Wish I had the time today to go downtown and watch the circus roll into town.  Oh well.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2023, 02:27:50 pm »
Report: Media in Place for Trump’s Arraignment Since Monday, Hired Professional Line Holders



Not only are they corrupt, and liars,.....   they are lazy as hell.
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What a picture.  Trump exudes confidence and ultimate bravery. 

Prayers up for President Trump.  He's facing 34 felony charges. How many are bogus??
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2023, 02:32:22 pm »
What a picture.  Trump exudes confidence and ultimate bravery. 

Prayers up for President Trump.  He's facing 34 felony charges. How many are bogus??

The indictment is basically based on so-called charge-stacking, where the prosecutor takes each and every little misstep and turns it into a separate charge.

For example, the basic charge here is falsifying business records.  Well, if, for example, Trump signed a single document, and then four photocopies were made - say one for him, one for the other party to the agreement, one for corporate records, and one for the lawyer who worked the deal, the prosecutor would turn that into five separate charges - one for the original document, and a separate charge for each photocopy.

It's prosecutor-ese for throw everything at the wall to see what sticks.  It's also a rhetorical device, because the media will then report that the defendant was hit with some humongous number of charges, which always rhetorically makes the defendant look worse than he actually is.  That, of course, can subtlety taint the jury pool.

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2023, 02:34:12 pm »
Wish I had the time today to go downtown and watch the circus roll into town.  Oh well.

Circus?  I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.

This IMO is no joke, circus or laughing matter. 

Like Trump or not, what is happening to him is wrong!
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2023, 02:35:32 pm »
Circus?  I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.

This IMO is no joke, circus or laughing matter. 

Like Trump or not, what is happening to him is wrong!

It is a circus, but that doesn't make it a joke.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2023, 02:35:34 pm »
That, of course, can subtlety taint the jury pool.

Which how can a valid jury pool be even established for a case of this magnitude.  Finding 9 Rip-Van-Winkles is going to be quite a task.
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2023, 02:41:59 pm »
It is a circus, but that doesn't make it a joke.

Technically the Stuff at Colosseum in Rome say 100 a.d.  was a Circus.  I don't think many on the playing field thought it was a joke. 

Wouldn't be a hoot it if he is found not guilty or springs on a technicality and does his best Maximus.....

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2023, 02:48:39 pm »
Which how can a valid jury pool be even established for a case of this magnitude.  Finding 9 Rip-Van-Winkles is going to be quite a task.

The tainting that happens with charge-stacking happens in all cases, to one degree or another.

The remedy is the degree to which the attorneys do their background research on the potential jurors, the degree to which they do a hard voir dire in questioning the potential jurors, and the number of peremptory strikes each side has.

The mere fact that this happens is unfortunate, but it is not per-se inconsistent with the concept of a fair jury, not the least because it's been going on for probably ever since there were public prosecutors.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2023, 03:33:53 pm »
WATCH: Demonstrators Clash over ‘TRUMP LIES ALL THE TIME’ Banner in Manhattan


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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2023, 03:38:52 pm »
This is what I was afraid of; insurrection and unrest.  This is exactly what the left wants.  This is not going to turn out well and ultimately our country continues to suffer.

I couldn't help but notice that the member of the 'press' was Black; this could get even more ugly than I thought. 
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2023, 03:39:53 pm »

https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643248351394004993

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/press-member-grabs-bystander-manhattan-courthouse-dont-fck-with-me/

Wanna good consolation outcome of a bad day?  A bunch of MSM pukes getting the shit beat out of them after provoking the crowd.

I will enjoy that and. will have on DVR loop.
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