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WATCH: Ric Grenell Calls on GOP Candidates to Drop Out, Endorse Trump After Indictment
libertybele:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 03, 2023, 08:05:05 pm ---And I asked you to tell us your plans for restoring economic health after you finish surrendering the rule of law, the sanctity of elections and the right of the people to petition their government to redress grievances ---- a surrender you've joined to take out "the orange silly guy".
Have you got a plan or not?
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I've been worried about The Rule of Law, the sanctity of elections and the right of the people to petition our government to redress grievances since SCOTUS turned their backs on us regarding this past election.
The fact that they just indicted a former president is just yet another worry.
None of which I or you have control of.
catfish1957:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 03, 2023, 08:05:05 pm ---And I asked you to tell us your plans for restoring economic health after you finish surrendering the rule of law, the sanctity of elections and the right of the people to petition their government to redress grievances ---- a surrender you've joined to take out "the orange silly guy".
Have you got a plan or not?
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My plan is would be to restore fiscal sanity, and return this government to one that remained within budgetary guidelines without defict spending. Something you and your Orange Julius doesn't have clue about. He's just made the problem worse. I have proven that, and you know it. I have screamed this at the top of my lungs for decades, and very few are waking up to the fact that this shit is coming down the road at us, quicker than they realize.
And as far as answering questions, and for about the 5th time, just how are you and DJT going to pay for these silly Freedom Socialist Cities with Jetson cars that he proposes. I am dying to know where that $10-15T is coming from.
Kamaji:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 03, 2023, 07:47:19 pm ---How do you plan on restoring economic health after you finish surrendering the rule of law, the sanctity of elections and the right of the people to petition their government to redress grievances?
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Considering that Trump has done precious little - i.e., just about nothing - to preserve or protect the sanctity of elections, nor the right of people to petition their government for redress of grievances, talismanically voting just for him simply and solely because he got indicted is not going to do squat about those issues.
roamer_1:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 03, 2023, 07:37:47 pm ---With all respect, the principles upon which this nation stands or falls are the right to life, liberty, the equal application of the rule of law, not of men, and the sanctity of the vote.
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@Right_in_Virginia
All of them deeply founded in Conservatism, whether all the way back to Aristotle via Republics, or through the Celtic law which winds through 1500 years to wind up as the English Common law, or I can argue them right from the Bible - Likely the origination of the above.
--- Quote --- In this moment, the nation is falling. In NYC, we are witnessing the epicenter of the Marxists's efforts to further and more deeply dismantle and erase each principle.
And, still you refuse to stand in support of their target and continue to redirect attention, time and energy to a political spending policy debate ----when there will be no debate if you continue to surrender the true founding principles.
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Well you're throwing a whole lot of dirt in the air for an indictment. Rule of Law is NOT crashing down. It's a friggin indictment, not a conviction. If you can indict a ham sandwich, you can certainly indict an ex-president. And that's really the only thing here that's new and unusual.
As I said before, they dd the very same thing to Tom DeLay decades ago.
But what they are doing is to be met on the battlefield of the Court - And that is what is happening. And I have no doubt he will succeed, even if he is convicted... The appeals process will serve, in the end, and move him out of the reach of the liberals on the east coast.
And don't think for a moment he ain't gonna make hay with that.
--- Quote ---I do not know if you appreciate the depravity of your focus, or not. But, your insistence that federal spending is most important is taking on the stench of an artifice.
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Quite to the contrary. A government big enough to give you what you want is big enough to take all you have... And it will... And it IS.
A myopic love of big government ALLOWS it to be powerful enough to upend the rule of law.
A small government could not afford these travesties.
And just wait till a loaf of bread costs a wheelbarrow full of money. Guess how the rule of law will be doing then?
Your protestations are foolishness.
Maj. Bill Martin:
--- Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 03, 2023, 07:57:39 pm ---No, I am not. But, you know that already.
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Yes, you are. And I do know that already. At least twice in this thread, you have directly equated supporting Trump with defending core principles such as the rule of law, right to life/liberty, etc.. That is a false dichotomy. It is entirely possible to 1) oppose the politicized prosecution of Trump, 2) stand up for those core principles, 3) and criticize his policies and support a different candidate.
Your attempt to leverage this prosecution into a moral requirement to support Trump's candidacy is transparent, and rightly rejected by many of us here.
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