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New: Federal judge orders Pence to testify about J6 conversations with Trump
CNN 1:40 PM on March 28, 2023


https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1640764550294241302

[Expect this to get appealed. I’m skeptical about exec-privilege claims from former presidents, but this comes closest to the core issue involved. This will eventually get settled by the Supreme Court, I’d bet. — Ed]

https://hotair.com/headlines/2023/03/28/new-federal-judge-orders-pence-to-testify-about-j6-conversations-with-trump-n540084
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New: Federal judge orders Pence to testify about J6 conversations with Trump
CNN 1:40 PM on March 28, 2023


https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1640764550294241302

[Expect this to get appealed. I’m skeptical about exec-privilege claims from former presidents, but this comes closest to the core issue involved. This will eventually get settled by the Supreme Court, I’d bet. — Ed]

https://hotair.com/headlines/2023/03/28/new-federal-judge-orders-pence-to-testify-about-j6-conversations-with-trump-n540084
So one candidate is testifying against another candidate?  Well this should be interesting.

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Some asshat judge is seriously trying to order a Former VP to testify against the President he served under?

How the HELL can that be legal?
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Some asshat judge is seriously trying to order a Former VP to testify against the President he served under?

How the HELL can that be legal?

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Yeah, if this isn't Executive Privilege, then what is? Were all the previous court cases wrong?

Sounds like this judge is passing the buck and sending it up the chain.
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Yeah, if this isn't Executive Privilege, then what is? Were all the previous court cases wrong?

Sounds like this judge is passing the buck and sending it up the chain.

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And that right there is cause for him to be removed from the bench.
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Some asshat judge is seriously trying to order a Former VP to testify against the President he served under?

How the HELL can that be legal?

Neither the Presidency Nor The Vice Presidency are positions which nullify responsiblity for illegal behavior.

Donald Trump is neither Royalty Nor Prelate.



 

 

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Neither the Presidency Nor The Vice Presidency are positions which nullify responsiblity for illegal behavior.

Donald Trump is neither Royalty Nor Prelate.



 

 

The question is to what extent does executive privilege apply.  The judge appears to have concluded that it does not.

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Neither the Presidency Nor The Vice Presidency are positions which nullify responsiblity for illegal behavior.

Donald Trump is neither Royalty Nor Prelate.




@Meshuge Mikey

I hate  to break it to you bubba,but it is illegal to force a President or a VP to testify against one another. You can huff and puff all you want,but that isn't going to change.

 

 
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as nether donna  twump nor pence  are  in office that may be..... a moot point ya think??


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maybe mike can take the fifth??


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as nether donna  twump nor pence  are  in office that may be..... a moot point ya think??


Doesn't it depend on when the conversation or actions about which he is to testify took place?

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Doesn't it depend on when the conversation or actions about which he is to testify took place?

im not a lawyer but i doubt that any judge.would no tknow......the law>???? having access to all those WEST law books




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Conspiring to enact a seditious coup de etat is not a formal Constitutional duty of President and Vice President.
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as nether donna  twump nor pence  are  in office that may be..... a moot point ya think??



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No,because what they are being questioned about was something that happened while they were in office.
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Conspiring to enact a seditious coup de etat is not a formal Constitutional duty of President and Vice President.

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And,of course,you were sitting in the Oval Office with  then while they were discussing this,right?
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Neither the Presidency Nor The Vice Presidency are positions which nullify responsiblity for illegal behavior.

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Have been wondering where do you celebrate your birthday...now that Chucky Cheese is closed??  :pondering:



 

 
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im not a lawyer but i doubt that any judge.would no tknow......the law>???? having access to all those WEST law books




I am quite certain that the mere possession of, or access to, law books does not render a judge's decisions correct 100% of the time.  Do you?

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Conspiring to enact a seditious coup de etat is not a formal Constitutional duty of President and Vice President.

Both the claim of conspiracy, and the characterization of a "seditious coup d'etat" are legal conclusions, not statements of fact.  Unless there is evidence that they discussed such things eo nomine, a presumption of executive privilege would most likely apply.

Furthermore, the point of things like executive privilege is, primarily, to shelter from public display precisely those sorts of discussions that don't lead to actions, but which might have involved discussions of misconduct.

It's like the First Amendment - the First Amendment doesn't exist primarily to protect "nice" speech that all and sundry can agree is acceptable; it exists primarily to protect from punishment those whose speech is considered "bad" speech by the majority.

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And,of course,you were sitting in the Oval Office with  then while they were discussing this,right?

I watched it live on TV.  I waited 187 minutes for Trump to belatedly tell the "tourists" to leave in peace, after it was obvious that the putsch was going to fail.

Here's a link to the January 6th Putsch Powerpoint present/discussed at the White House on January 5th:
https://wehco.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/news/documents/2021/12/11/voter-fraud.pdf

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Have been wondering where do you celebrate your birthday...now that Chucky Cheese is closed??  :pondering:

some moron posted that some lame line to me back in 1994 0r 95

keep your other day slack


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Have been wondering where do you celebrate your birthday...now that Chucky Cheese is closed??  :pondering:

keep the wall of denial up.......sure sure the donnys as  sane as anyone and will be lever by a YUGE Margin

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