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The Problems With Just Getting Guns Out of People's Hands as a Solution to Gun Violence

New study sees Chicago harassing and arresting people for paperwork violations, damaging their ability to live and work, without demonstrable effect on gun violence

BRIAN DOHERTY
3.27.2023

When hideous murders committed with guns make national news, as in today's Nashville school shooting, it is a natural reaction on many people's parts to call passionately for just getting more guns out of more people's hands, by any means necessary.

Those concerned with civil liberties and police abuse of the innocent have long worried about the effects of privileging mere gun possession arrests. A new study from the Marshall Project highlights some of these problems, via examining data and interviewing arrestees from Chicago's attempts to manage its violence problem with more gun possession arrests.

Chicago police seem to have adopted a pattern of pretextual stops—looking for any excuse to pull someone over and interact with them—in order, they hope, to find a gun without a proper permit to own or license to carry. (Getting both those things can be quite expensive in terms of both time and money, disproportionately affecting the poor living in violent neighborhoods who most strongly feel the pull toward having a gun for self-defense.) Gun law enforcement in Chicago, the Marshall Project finds, "overwhelmingly focuses on possession crimes — not use."

The heart of the study's findings:

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From 2010 to 2022, the police made more than 38,000 arrests for illegal gun possession. These arrests — almost always a felony — doubled during this timeframe. While illegal possession is the most serious offense in most of the cases we analyzed, the charges often bear misleading names that imply violence, like "aggravated unlawful use of a weapon."

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But there is no particular evidence that harassing or arresting those who have harmed no one has "substantially reduced shootings in Chicago. In fact, as possession arrests skyrocketed, shootings increased, but the percentage of shooting victims where someone was arrested in their case declined," that latter point a strong indication that mere possession arrests are not a sensible high priority for police for whom gun violence should be their only concern when it comes to guns, not paperwork violations. But the Project found that "nearly 60% of the 31,000 new felony cases pursued by [the state's attorney of Cook County, Illinois] in the past three years were for illegal gun possession; roughly 4% were for homicides."

Among the gun arrests the Marshall Project were able to analyze from raw data, "Most people [arrested] had no arrest warrants out, nor were they on supervised release, probation or suspected of being in a gang. In most of the incidents we analyzed, police were not responding to 911 calls about a person with a gun."

The fight against mere possession becomes a generalized excuse for harassment of citizens: "In arrests where possession was the most severe charge…we found that more than 7 in 10 began with a simple traffic violation. After this initial stop, police often used some other justification for a search. Officers often did this by citing the smell of marijuana. Although Illinois legalized cannabis in 2020, smoking while driving is still prohibited." And, "in a third of the stops, we found the person arrested had their gun owner's permit, but not the license that allowed carrying the loaded gun in public."

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Source:  https://reason.com/2023/03/27/the-problems-with-just-getting-guns-out-of-peoples-hands-as-a-solution-to-gun-violence/

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President Joe Biden called on Congress to pass an assault weapons ban after six people, including three children, were killed in a school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee on Monday.

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President Joe Biden called on Congress to pass an assault weapons ban after six people, including three children, were killed in a school shooting in Nashville, Tennessee on Monday, the White House said. "We have to do more to stop gun violence. It’s ripping our communities apart,” Biden said at the White House. "I call on Congress again to pass my assault weapons ban."  ...
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