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Kamaji:

--- Quote from: Hoodat on April 10, 2023, 06:27:19 pm ---
Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

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And none of that will be implicated unless (a) the prosecutor refuses to provide a bill of particulars after Trump requests one, (b) the court refuses to dismiss the indictment for failure to state the underlying facts, and (c) the case goes to trial and Trump is convicted.

Why do you think the NY Penal Code provides for a bill of particulars?  Just for shits and giggles?

If the indictment is deficient, then the course of action is to either have it dismissed, or have it supplemented via a bill of particulars.

MeshugeMikey:

--- Quote from: Kamaji on April 10, 2023, 06:47:58 pm ---And none of that will be implicated unless (a) the prosecutor refuses to provide a bill of particulars after Trump requests one, (b) the court refuses to dismiss the indictment for failure to state the underlying facts, and (c) the case goes to trial and Trump is convicted.

Why do you think the NY Penal Code provides for a bill of particulars?  Just for shits and giggles?

If the indictment is deficient, then the course of action is to either have it dismissed, or have it supplemented via a bill of particulars.

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the accused MIGHT BE  less worroed about the NYC case that the GEORGIA CASE...

that hes as worried as he clealy is...points toward an expected conviction.

his people..sorry lot though they are.... have infomed the donny that it looks very very BAD for him

Maj. Bill Martin:
I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap.  Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia.  Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.

If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal.  It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.

Kamaji:

--- Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 11, 2023, 12:48:50 pm ---I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap.  Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia.  Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.

If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal.  It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.

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:thumbsup:

MeshugeMikey:

--- Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 11, 2023, 12:48:50 pm ---I personally think the Georgia case is utter crap.  Trump clearly believed personally that there was large-scale fraud in Georgia.  Whether he was right or wrong is immaterial because criminality requires criminal intent, and that is a subjective state of mind.

If he believed there was fraud, then asking the governor of that state to get evidence of that fraud is perfectly legal.  It's only if he didn't believe it, and is asking the state to manufacture false evidence of fraud, that criminality arguably occurs.

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Found not gullty by reason of insanity.....

the suspect had NO IDEA......never has had..and  never will

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