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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2023, 04:26:15 pm »
He's right, but a dumbed down population doesn't give a shit.  They don't understand anything of any complexity.
The sheeple mentality and their MSM/Big Tech propaganda sources now control narrative. 

By 2030, I am guessing any thinking right of center will be outlawed.

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I wouldn't bet against it.

THAT is why I am such a rabid supporter of the only candidate who is not a professional pol,but a bombthrower who doesn't give a damn whose toes he steps on because his ego DEMANDS  that IF he is elected,the only thing that will matter to him is that he goes down in the history books as "The President that saved America."
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2023, 04:32:43 pm »
Talk about "un-due" process......

To me it sounds like a flanking manuever  with the understanding that the  NY DA can't win an outright case.  Lots of legal experts have weighed in, and it is pretty much universally believed that this is not a convictable offense.  Even the left leaning MSM pundits have said this.

But if they can get DJT cuffed, in an orange suit, mug shotted, and get some dna, they'll think they've won, no matter what.  And in the court of opinion where  perception is 10X powerful than the truth?  Who says they aren't right.

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That DOES seem to be the plan.

Their fall-back position seems to be if all else fails,use some of the dirt they have on him to try to force him to step down. Or at least try to. Trump has such a massive ego he is just as likely to start bragging about it and make it irrelevant.

I,personally don't give a damn if he has sex with monkies,as long as he is elected and tries to get America back on a Constitutional status instead of trying to turn us into a member of "World Wide Government,Inc".
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2023, 04:32:52 pm »
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Two sources familiar with the matter tell @NBCNewYork
 the Manhattan DA has told the grand jury hearing evidence in the Trump/Daniels investigation to stay home today & be on standby for tomorrow. The reason for the delay is unclear.  #nbc4ny

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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2023, 04:39:23 pm »
Has the case already fallen to crap?

Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2023, 05:12:38 pm »
Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out

That would be nice, but it will never, ever happen in NY, and particularly not in NYC.

The disciplinary committees in NY are particularly spineless when it comes to disciplining prosecutors, and particularly so when it would be a matter of disciplining a liberal/leftist prosecutor who attempted to prosecute a right-of-center white male like Trump.


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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2023, 05:19:33 pm »
 March 22, 2023 12:41pm EDT
Trump hush-money grand jury proceedings 'canceled' for Wednesday, sources say
Grand jury proceedings canceled amid ‘major dissension’ in DA's office, sources tell Fox News

By Brooke Singman , Marta Dhanis , Chris Pandolfo | Fox News

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office has "canceled" the grand jury meeting that was scheduled to take place Wednesday as part of the investigation into former President Trump, amid speculation of a possible indictment, two sources familiar told Fox News.

The grand jury was slated to meet Wednesday and was expected to hear from at least one additional witness, but Fox News has learned that Bragg's office "canceled" the proceedings.

The grand jury was notified Wednesday morning, and was placed "on standby" for Thursday, a source told Fox News.

Two sources familiar told Fox News Digital on Wednesday that the grand jury was canceled amid "major dissension" within the district attorney's office. One source claimed the district attorney is having trouble convincing the grand jury on potential charges due to the "weakness" of the case.

Despite rumors of a potential imminent indictment, sources familiar told Fox News Digital that Trump has not been formally notified about whether Bragg actually plans to bring charges against him.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2023, 05:25:11 pm »
Seems like they are interested  in bleeding all the neative publicity for Trump out of these charges they can before actually charging him in court,doesn't it?

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2023, 05:44:08 pm »

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1638518273191837696

The Manhattan DA cancelled his planned arrest of President Trump when his final grand jury witness told the jurors that Bragg was hiding hundreds of pages of exculpatory evidence from them. Bragg is at risk of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2023, 05:48:55 pm »
Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2023, 05:56:07 pm »

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1638518273191837696

The Manhattan DA cancelled his planned arrest of President Trump when his final grand jury witness told the jurors that Bragg was hiding hundreds of pages of exculpatory evidence from them. Bragg is at risk of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct.

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It is criminal and he needs to be disbarred and charged.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2023, 05:58:19 pm »
Bragg may end up being “ Nifonged”
Would be a little bit of a breather for the people of New York City if he was forced out

That is who came to mind when I saw my Tweet. That dude in NC who got in a lot of trouble (actually ruined his life/career) for just this sort of nonsense.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2023, 07:01:26 pm »
This is why I hate woke Marxists to my core. I am a god amongst men, you are subhuman and racist, I don't have to follow the rules like you do.

It is criminal and he needs to be disbarred and charged.

Why is it criminal?  It is my understanding that even in NY, disclosure of exculpatory evidence to the grand jury is only obligatory in certain limited circumstances.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2023, 07:09:36 pm »
Prosecutors generally have limited obligations to disclose exculpatory information to a grand jury.

Federal case law:  U.S. v. Williams, 504 U.S. 36, 112 S. Ct. 1735 (1992)
NY:  People v. Patsy Mitchell, 82 N.Y.2d 509 (1993)

In NY, if the prosecutor introduces an inculpatory statement, the prosecutor is obliged to introduce an exculpatory statement that was given during the same interrogation.  People v. Falcon, 204 A.D.2d 181 (1st Dept. 1994).

So, perhaps the grand jury might be feeling a little less than friendly toward the DA if they feel they were denied exculpatory material, but that is a decision that is generally left to the prerogative of the prosecutor, and it is up to the grand jury, in the first instance, to take action if they feel that they should have been provided with the exculpatory material.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2023, 07:12:36 pm »
Why is it criminal?  It is my understanding that even in NY, disclosure of exculpatory evidence to the grand jury is only obligatory in certain limited circumstances.

I forgot it is a grand jury and not a trial. The rules are different I know.
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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2023, 07:16:30 pm »
I forgot it is a grand jury and not a trial. The rules are different I know.

Did not know that, thanks.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2023, 10:22:56 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2023, 10:40:31 pm »
A 2018 Letter from Michael Cohen’s lawyer states that Cohen used his own personal funds to pay $130,000 to Stormy Daniels and that the Trump Org nor Campaign was a party to the transaction did not reimburse Cohen for the payment directly or indirectly.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2023, 02:50:43 pm »
 March 23, 2023 10:29am EDT
NY grand jury not expected to consider Trump case Thursday, source says
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg had convened grand jury to hear evidence in case against former President Donald Trump

By Marta Dhanis , Chris Pandolfo | Fox News

A Manhattan grand jury will not hear testimony, deliberate or vote on the hush-money case against former President Donald Trump Thursday, a source has confirmed to Fox News.

Since the grand jury does not sit on Fridays, a vote on the Trump case is not expected this week, according to the source.

The grand jury will meet Thursday about a different case, the source said. This grand jury has been considering other cases and is also a special "investigative" grand jury.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg has been investigating whether Trump violated the law by making alleged hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels in 2016.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2023, 02:54:17 pm »
Prediction:

This goes nowhere and the media and Democrats work together to try to bury this. It’ll be just another in the long line of  “the walls are closing in on Trump.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2023, 02:55:20 pm »
March 23, 2023 10:29am EDT
NY grand jury not expected to consider Trump case Thursday, source says
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg had convened grand jury to hear evidence in case against former President Donald Trump



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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2023, 03:35:04 pm »
And if not next week,the week after. And maybe even the week after that, if the Dim polling tells them people are still buying it.
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« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2023, 03:36:33 pm »
And if not next week,the week after. And maybe even the week after that, if the Dim polling tells them people are still buying it.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2023, 03:53:21 pm »
There is an old saying that reminds me of Alvin's predicament.

It goes something like this, In a bacon and egg breakfast, what's the difference between the chicken and the pig?

The chicken is involved, but the pig is COMMITTED!

With all the time and effort Bragg has expended in this farce he can't not bring charges.  He is a committed pig.
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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2023, 03:59:01 pm »
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Bragg says Trump created ‘false expectation’ on potential arrest
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Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) for the first time on Thursday addressed a claim by former President Trump that he would be arrested in connection to an investigation into a hush money payment made to adult film star Stormy Daniels, calling it the creation of a “false expectation.”

Bragg, in response to demands by House Republicans to force his testimony and turn over all documents and communication on the case, wrote in a letter to Congress that such a move was an “unprecendent[ed] inquiry into a pending local prosecution.”

“The letter only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene,” Bragg wrote.

Trump wrote in a Truth Social post over the weekend that he expected to be arrested on Tuesday in connection to the probe, but as of Thursday morning, no charges have been announced and the grand jury weighing the case is not expected to meet for the rest of the week.

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Re: LIVE THREAD BREAKING...Trump Indicted
« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2023, 04:13:44 pm »
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BREAKING: Grand jury to reconvene in New York at noon— but charges against Trump won't be considered until next week

11:07 AM · Mar 23, 2023