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The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« on: February 09, 2023, 01:23:54 pm »
Uncoverdc By Kyle Seraphin -February 8, 2023

The FBI’s Richmond Division would like to protect Virginians from the threat of “white supremacy,” which it believes has found a home within Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass. An intelligence analyst within the Richmond Field Office of the FBI released in a new finished intelligence product dated January 23, 2023, on Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVE) and their interests in “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics” or RTCs. The document assesses with “high confidence” the FBI can mitigate the threat of Radical-Traditionalist Catholics by recruiting sources within the Catholic Church.

The acronym, new to many in the Domestic Counterterrorism field, comes with a footnote by the writer explaining RTCs are “typically characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council.” The writer makes an unsubstantiated leap that a preference for the Catholic Mass in Latin instead of the vernacular and a number of more traditional views on other world religions can amount to an “adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ and white supremacist ideology.” This writer draws the important distinction between “traditional Catholics,” who simply prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings, and RTCs, who espouse “more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric.”

A discerning reader may wonder why the writer believes such divisions exist and if there is evidence of the extremist and violent rhetoric within the Catholic church. The analyst’s note doesn’t provide specifics. When the FBI generates an intelligence product, it is important to note the analyzed sources. Typically, strict source vetting removes partisanship and bias, so a product is both consistent with federal law and can add value to the FBI’s overall mission. Of note, this document was reviewed and approved for release by the FBI Richmond Chief Division Counsel, who is the office’s top lawyer.

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2023, 01:40:06 pm »
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2023, 01:45:50 pm »
Well, how ironic that embracing "traditional values" is considered "radical".

While the FBI continues it's assault on the First Amendment...
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 11:51:07 pm »
The FBI’s Richmond Division
would like to protect Virginians from the threat of “white supremacy,”
which it believes has found a home within Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass.
An intelligence analyst within the Richmond Field Office of the FBI
released in a new finished intelligence product dated January 23, 2023,
on Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVE)
and their interests in “Radical-Traditionalist Catholics” or RTCs.
The document assesses with “high confidence” the FBI can
mitigate the threat of Radical-Traditionalist Catholics
by recruiting sources within the Catholic Church.


How many people get murdered each year in the USA
by ACTUAL "white supremacists"?
Fewer than fifty.
How many people get murdered each year in the USA
by gang bangers?
At least eight thousand.
(That's counting just the murders committed with guns.
There are many more committed with knives, clubs, etc.)
So who is the real threat to Americans' safety?
According to the FBI, it's "white supremacists"!

Of course, the people that the FBI are calling "white supremacists"
are NOT actual white supremacists.
Many of them are not even white!

Why do we hear so much propaganda about "white supremacists"?
Because The Swamp conducted some polls and focus groups,
asking the question, "What name can we call the people that we hate
that will incite everyone else to hate those people the most?"

So now they're using that lie to smear even
people who prefer the Latin Mass!

How many people have been murdered in the last TWENTY years
by people who prefer the Latin Mass?
There is NO record of ANY such murders having occurred!

There's a joke that people in the Soviet Union used to tell.
"A rabbit is fleeing as fast as it can run.
A second rabbit asks, 'Why are you fleeing so fast?'
The first rabbit replies, 'They've announced that
all wolves are going to be exterminated!'
The second rabbit asks, 'But we're rabbits! Why to WE have to flee?'
The first rabbit replies, 'Once someone has called you a wolf,
who is going to have the courage to say you're a rabbit?' "

The FBI is serving its master, the Global Corporate Collective,
and its branch agency, the Global Corporate Propaganda machine,
also known as the "mainstream" media,
helping them smear even The Little Sisters of the Poor as
"dangerous violent extremists"!

This is a good example of how COMPLETELY the Global Corporate Collective
has corrupted nearly EVERY organization that exists!
And is using all of them to ATTACK, in spite of ZERO provocation,
every innocent person who exists!

This shows how completely the Global Corporate Collective,
which is a HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER
has corrupted the FBI
and turned the agency into a COMPLETE liar
and enemy of - the USA, our people, our Constitution,
and of civilization itself!

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mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 01:18:05 am »
There have been RTC's since at least Vatican II.

The Papacy of Pope John Paul II was a reactionary response of conservative Catholics against the liberal permissive trends of the 1960s and 1970s.

Don't forget to get them Opus Dei folks, the Knights of Columbus, and parishes that still don't allow altar girls.

Again, the KKK would not consider Catholic to be proper Anglo-Saxon or Germanic Protestant whites.

Weaponization of the FBI against conservative Catholics has everything to do with their opposition to abortion, gay marriage, and other liberal social causes.


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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 02:13:15 am »
There have been RTC's since at least Vatican II.

The Papacy of Pope John Paul II was a reactionary response of conservative Catholics against the liberal permissive trends of the 1960s and 1970s.

Don't forget to get them Opus Dei folks, the Knights of Columbus, and parishes that still don't allow altar girls.

Again, the KKK would not consider Catholic to be proper Anglo-Saxon or Germanic Protestant whites.

Weaponization of the FBI against conservative Catholics has everything to do with their opposition to abortion, gay marriage, and other liberal social causes.
They can't feed Americans their version of the Globalist Bullcrap without tearing down every tradition that has any standards it adheres to. Immutable, or at least slow to change traditions are anathema to the situational ethics crowd and always have been.
Yep, (conservative) Catholics have held the line where other sects have faltered.
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2023, 02:52:17 am »
They can't feed Americans their version of the Globalist Bullcrap without tearing down every tradition that has any standards it adheres to. Immutable, or at least slow to change traditions are anathema to the situational ethics crowd and always have been.
Yep, (conservative) Catholics have held the line where other sects have faltered.


And the very same can be said on the Protestant side of the fence. Let's not paint with too small a brush...  :beer:

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2023, 02:56:16 am »

And the very same can be said on the Protestant side of the fence. Let's not paint with too small a brush...  :beer:
True, that.  :beer:
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2023, 03:52:38 am »
True, that.  :beer:

The Church (all of it) needs to wake up...

IIRC
On Sukkot in 2017, a great sign took place for only one day...
Jupiter was in retrograde in Virgo for 9 months.

On the day it burst forth, and only that day, there were 12 stars in Leo (usually 9+3 planets) and the moon was at Virgo's feet.

So ON the feast of Tabernacles, the virgin, with a crown of 12 stars, and the moon at her feet, gave birth to the king star... That conjunction happens roughly every 6000 years.

If that ain't a 'You are Here' in Revelation, I don't know what is.
And NOBODY in the Church knows it. No one.

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2023, 06:28:25 pm »
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BREAKING: Last August the Atlantic labeled the rosary an Extremist Symbol

The FBI cited this article as evidence in their targeting report on conservative Catholics



10:30 AM · Feb 10, 2023

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2023, 11:18:14 pm »
If Mr. Trump has the good fortune to get re-elected (a so-so chance, at best, I'll predict), one of the first things he does should be to close down the FBI, lock, stock and barrel. Just send all the employees home and lock the building. And then, start over.

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2023, 11:28:24 pm »
No wonder public schools don't teach Latin anymore. It's ray-cist!
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2023, 06:00:44 pm »
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The week after I proposed drop boxes in the back of churches, the FBI began making lists of traditional Catholic churches

This is by design

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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2023, 03:30:23 am »
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BREAKING: Last August the Atlantic labeled the rosary an Extremist Symbol

The FBI cited this article as evidence in their targeting report on conservative Catholics

(Image that wastes a vast volume of screen space,
and manages to STILL be unreadable, because
the type is microscopic, with near zero contrast.)

10:30 AM · Feb 10, 2023


In case anyone wants to see what's in the graphic that has horrifically bad quality,
I transcribed it here:


   How the Rosary Became an Extremist Symbol

The AR-15 is a sacred object among Christian nationalists.
Now "radical-traditional" Catholics are bringing a sacrament of their own to the movement.
By Daniel Panneyton


UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY
FBI INTERNAL USE ONLY - DO NOT DISSEMINATE EXTERNALLY

Endnotes

9  Website | Southern Poverty Law Center | "Radical Traditional Catholism" |
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/idology/radical-traditional-catholicism | Accessed on 12 December 2022.

10  Website | Salon | "White Nationalists Get Religion: On the Far-Right Fringe, a Catholics and Racists Forge a Movement" | 12 May 2022.

11  Website | Salon | "Traditional" Catholics and White Nationalist "Groypers" Forge a New Far-Right Youth Movement" | 13 May 2022 |
https://www.salon.com/2022/05/13/trad-catholics-and-nationalist-groypers-forge-a-new-far-right-youth-movement/ | Accessed on 5 December 2022.

12  Website | The Atlantic | "How Extremist Gun Culture is Trying to Co-opt the Rosary" | 14 August 2022 |
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/radical-traditionalist-catholic-christian-rosary-weapon/671122/ | Accessed on 5 December 2022.
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Re: The FBI Doubles Down on Christians and White Supremacy in 2023
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2023, 11:31:06 am »
Interesting that the SPLC (there's a walking hate crime for you) considers the very people the KKK would have spurned down to be a 'White hate group' when half or more of the Catholics I knew in my youth were black (not to mention the Hispanic folks elsewhere).

The SPLC are likely the sort of people who chased all the POCs off of packaging and left that old white guy alone on the Oatmeal box. They have been doing their damndest to find something that looks like a hate group on the Right, and who is White for a long time.

But a Rosary a sign of "Hate"?
Nope.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis