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$400M U.S. Aid Package: Biden Announces 31 Abrams Main Battle Tanks for Ukraine

Kristina Wong 25 Jan 2023

President Joe Biden announced Wednesday afternoon he has approved sending 31 Abrams M1 main battle tanks to Ukraine, in an escalation of U.S. support for the war as it nears the one-year mark.

“With spring approaching, Ukrainian forces are working to defend the territory they hold and preparing for additional counter offenses to liberate their land. They need to be able to counter Russia’s evolving tactics and strategy on the battlefield in the very near term. They need to improve their ability to maneuver and open terrain, and they need an enduring capability to deter and defend against Russian aggression over the long term,” Biden said.

“Today, I’m announcing that the United States will be sending 31 Abram tanks to Ukraine, the equivalent of one Ukrainian battalion,” he said.

Biden did not mention the costs, but shortly after his remarks, the Department of Defense announced a package of $400 million under its Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI).

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This is probably to light a fire under Germany's ass.

If Germany won't provide Ukraine German tanks, America will provide American tanks, with the benefits going to American defense contractors.

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I guess they finally got enough money laundered into Rat campaign coffers that they can finally switch to weapons.
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Despite concerns, US to send 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine
AOL, Jan 25, 2023,  Associated Press

Just last week, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl told reporters that the Abrams is a complicated, expensive, difficult to maintain and hard to train on piece of equipment. One thing Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has been very focused on, he said, “is that we should not be providing the Ukrainians systems they can’t repair, they can’t sustain, and that they, over the long term, can’t afford, because it’s not helpful.”

For the Abrams to be effective in Ukraine, its forces will require extensive training on combined arms manuevuer — how the tanks operate together on the battlefield, and on how to maintain and support the complex, 70-ton weapon. The Abrams tanks use a turbine jet engine to propel themselves that burns through at least two gallons a mile regardless of whether they are moving or idling, which means that a network of fuel trucks is needed to keep the line moving.

The $400 million package announced Wednesday also includes eight M88 recovery vehicles — tank-like tracked vehicles that can tow the Abrams if it gets stuck.

But there were few answers about what U.S. tanks would be sent — whether they would be pulled from the existing stockpile of more than 4,000 Abrams and retrofitted, or whether the U.S. would use the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative to buy new systems to possibly backfill allies who send their own or buy new systems outright for Ukraine.

Either way, using the assistance initiative funding route means that while Abrams have now been promised to Ukraine, it will likely be many months before the tanks are actually on the battlefield, and not in time for Russia's anticipated Spring offensive.

Russian Ambassador to Germany Sergey Nechayev on Wednesday called Berlin’s decision to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine “extremely dangerous.”


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Ukraine will now push for F-16 fighter jets, government adviser says
MSN, Jan 25, 2023, The Hill

Yuriy Sak, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense secretary, told The Hill that he was optimistic about receiving western fighter jets such as the American F-16s, which Ukrainians have sought since early last year when Russia first invaded.

“Every type of weapon we request, we needed yesterday,” Sak said. “We will do everything possible to ensure Ukraine gets fourth-generation fighter jets as soon as possible.”

Reuters first reported the news that Ukraine was setting its sights on fighter jets.

Ukraine scored a major win on Wednesday with the announcement from President Biden that the U.S. will donate 31 American-made M1 Abrams main battle tanks to Kyiv.

Western fighter jets and longer-range artillery units, which would allow Ukraine to strike Russian forces deeper in occupied territory, will likely be the next debate for NATO.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ukraine-will-now-push-for-f-16-fighter-jets-government-adviser-says/ar-AA16K9pT

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Biden: "I shipped air defense systems all to help counter Ukraine's brutal aggression that's happening because of Russia.". (Video)


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Since Ukraine is getting well armed with our military equipment hopefully they will defend the US when we get attacked...
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Zelensky begs the West for jets and long-range missiles to fend off Putin's forces: Ukrainian President piles pressure on NATO allies after Germany and the US finally joined Britain in sending Kyiv tanks in bid to defend freedom

    'We must open deliveries of long range missiles to Ukraine,' Zelensky declared
    He also called on NATO countries to send jets to beef up Ukraine's air superiority
    The Ukrainian president thanked Germany and US for sending battalions of tanks

By David Averre

Published: 15:24 EST, 25 January 2023 | Updated: 17:56 EST, 25 January 2023

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky today declared he wanted NATO allies to send long-range missiles and jets to his war-torn country to help repel Russian troops, as the West finally united in a bid to defeat Vladimir Putin in a global fight for 'freedom'.

In a nighttime address, Zelensky said: 'I've spoken with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg today... We must also open deliveries of long-range missiles to Ukraine, it is important - we must expand our cooperation in artillery. This is a dream. And this is a task.'

In a devastating blow to the Kremlin, nine countries joined Britain in agreeing to send tanks to destroy Russia's forces in eastern Ukraine. The coalition came together just 48 hours after Boris Johnson's rallying cry in the Daily Mail, imploring the UK's allies to end their dithering.

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Since Ukraine is getting well armed with our military equipment hopefully they will defend the US when we get attacked...




I'm sure the Ukraine and Afghanistan will ride to the rescue./s

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Since Ukraine is getting well armed with our military equipment hopefully they will defend the US when we get attacked...

They've been treated like poor relations; given a song and dance, but received a lot less than promised.
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Likely junkers or decommissioned USMC tanks from the Army's Sierra boneyard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Army_Depot

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The depot and Anniston Army Depot will be the storage sites of the US Marine Corps' inventory of M1 Abrams tanks as well as other armored equipment as part of USMC Commandant Gen. David H. Berger's planning guidance "Force Design 2030".[4] The last tanks left for the depot from the U.S. Marine Corps' base at 29 Palms in California in July 2020.
 
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Since Ukraine is getting well armed with our military equipment hopefully they will defend the US when we get attacked...

The Ukrainians have actually stepped up for the U.S. before in Iraq.

Ukrainians complete mission in Iraq

https://www.army.mil/article/15056/ukrainians_complete_mission_in_iraq

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CAMP ECHO, Iraq - The Ukrainian Army hosted an end of mission ceremony at Camp Echo in Central Iraq, Dec. 9.

More than 5,000 Ukrainian troops have served in Iraq during Ukraine's five years of service in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

"Enduring peace, stability and prosperity are common values to fight for in the modern world. Your mission in Iraq has been successfully completed," said Viktor Nedopas, Charge d'Affairs of the Ukrainian Embassy in Iraq.

The Ukrainians served as the third-largest Coalition forces contingent in Iraq, with about 1,700 soldiers from 2003-2005.
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Likely junkers or decommissioned USMC tanks from the Army's Sierra boneyard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Army_Depot
 

I haven't heard anyone mention this...do you think that's where these tanks are coming from?
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Actual photo of the 31 Abrams entering Kyiv:



https://twitter.com/johnhackerla/status/1618375257823514630
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Whats next, a few aircraft carriers,  few battle ships, a few sr-72's, a star wars warfare satellite or two?  A semi-load of American money or two?  When does this madness finally end?  Afghanistan just wasn't enough?  Our socialist Communist pro-CZARS democrats seem to have utterly blinded our nation and working with their buddy Putin, leading us off the cliff to finally perish!  All by an innocent ignorant madman corrupting our institutions/government and all so innocently-dementedly so.
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The Ukrainians have actually stepped up for the U.S. before in Iraq.

Ukrainians complete mission in Iraq

https://www.army.mil/article/15056/ukrainians_complete_mission_in_iraq

Exactly.  They stood by us when a lot of other countries didn't.  We should remember our friends.

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Likely junkers or decommissioned USMC tanks from the Army's Sierra boneyard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Army_Depot
 

Yeah, the Marines have deactivated all their tank battalions, so they're just sitting there.   My guess is that we'll end up sending more once they trained enough people on this initial 31.

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Exactly.  They stood by us when a lot of other countries didn't.  We should remember our friends.

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Thirty-one tanks that the Ukrainians will struggle to use and maintain isn't going to turn the tide of the conflict. Our government would simply rather fund another endless war that makes a lot of people rich than try to make peace.

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Kirby: "We need to prepare ourselves to have to continue to support Ukraine for quite some time.". (Vidéo)


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If $0.4 billion yields 31 M-1 tanks, then what did the $40 billion yield?  3100 tanks would have made a huge difference last summer.  Yet so much money and nothing to show for it.
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He's pushing us to a nuclear war...

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The bipartisan DC consensus in favor of Biden's war escalation in Ukraine blissfully marches on, as usual, despite graver warnings of escalation. The more escalation there is, the less debate.

The key question remains: how are the lives of Americans improved from this war?👇

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Yesterday, the #DoomsdayClock was set to its lowest point in history, largely due to mounting dangers in Ukraine.

Yet, we continue to escalate our involvement—without debate, dissent, or discussion—flirting carelessly with nuclear disaster ☢️

And for what?

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The US spends 16 times more on its military than Russia. Russia's economy is smaller than Italy and Canada's.

The US has already committed more money to the war in Ukraine than *the entire Russia military budget for the year.*

What threat does Russia pose to the US?


2:09 PM · Jan 25, 2023