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Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« on: January 25, 2023, 02:36:04 pm »
 Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
by Alexander Bolton - 01/25/23 6:00 AM ET

Senate Republicans are pouring cold water on the idea that President Biden’s classified documents controversy rises to the level of an impeachable offense, heading off House conservatives looking for revenge after former President Trump’s two trials.

Even before Tuesday’s revelation that about a dozen classified documents had been found at former Vice President Mike Pence’s Indiana home, GOP senators were cool to the idea of impeachment.

“I don’t think you want to get into where it’s a tit for tat, every two years or four years you’re dealing with impeachment proceedings in the House and Senate,” Senate Republican Whip John Thune (S.D.) told The Hill. “There has to be a really good reason, obviously, the constitutional reasons and grounds for that. So we’ll see where it goes.”

Asked whether Biden’s possession of classified documents has the potential to rise to the level of an impeachable offense, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to the Senate GOP leadership team, gave a simple answer: “No.”

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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 02:39:22 pm »
It might not be a feel-good sentiment, but since there are clearly not enough votes in the Senate to convict Biden on an impeachment, the most likely result would be a failed impeachment that simply ended up ratifying Biden's actions.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 02:51:59 pm »
Actually agree.  The odds of getting 67 senators to convict is Infinity to 1.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 02:54:17 pm »
It might not be a feel-good sentiment, but since there are clearly not enough votes in the Senate to convict Biden on an impeachment, the most likely result would be a failed impeachment that simply ended up ratifying Biden's actions.

Clinton used his impeachment to his advantage in the '96 election.  And that was the turning point in this country, when we knew morality meant nothing in electing a POTUS. 
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 02:58:23 pm »
Well this is disappointing, but not surprising.
I would build my case based on the FACTS, which are overwhelming,  and force people to take a public stand rather than providing shelter for the same socialists over and over and over.....

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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 03:00:15 pm »
Actually agree.  The odds of getting 67 senators to convict is Infinity to 1.

I don't! The house should do its job without consideration of what the senate may or may not do.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 03:02:03 pm »
Democrats impeached Trump at the drop of a hat – even before it hit the floor in fact.  But, the GOP cowards get to skate because, you know, pragmatism, no conviction.  So what?  At least it would leave a stain on Biden.

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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2023, 03:03:15 pm »
Well this is disappointing, but not surprising.
I would build my case based on the FACTS, which are overwhelming,  and force people to take a public stand rather than providing shelter for the same socialists over and over and over.....

I share your anger too, but the Speaker vote showed one thing....   The dims vote in block, and in lockstep of how they are told.  There already is pretty compelling evidence that Joe is a Pedophile, and an influence peddler in Big Guy Fashion.

Still, you'll never get 29 dim senators to convict Biden under any circumstance.  And in my eyes, if the Senate really had conservative's interests at heart, they'd have laser focus to try to reverse Biden's agenda in an obsessive manner.

But we are talking the Turdle, so we'll get a complict POS instead.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 03:06:32 pm »
I don't! The house should do its job without consideration of what the senate may or may not do.

We agree 99.999% of the time, but you realize how much time and effort is needed to conduct impeachment proceedings?

I rather have them obsessively focus on reversing Pedo Joe's agenda instead.  That's the best bang for our buck.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 03:09:18 pm »
It's not just that there will never be a conviction in the Senate.  It's that the acquittal will play straight into the hands of the MSM and the other left-wing agit-prop outfits pimping for Biden and the democrats.  Americans would be deluged with the narrative that the acquittal represents a complete vindication of Biden, not just that it represents the depths of political partisanship in Congress.

And more strategically:  what happens if, mirabile dictu, there is a conviction?  Biden is removed, Harris becomes president, and the democrats then have the votes to put into the VP office one of their hard-left members, someone who could never in a million years get elected to office.  From there it's a short hop, skip, and a jump to, say, President Newsom of California.

So, the choices are these:  (i) impeach Biden and suffer an acquittal - Biden is vindicated and his re-election chances, and the election chances of democrats generally, go up, or (ii) impeach Biden and win a conviction - Gavin Newsom, or some other noisesome hard-left prog/lib, becomes VP and, in short order, president.

Yeah, I'd prefer not to start up that road in the first place.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 03:12:37 pm »
Democrats impeached Trump at the drop of a hat – even before it hit the floor in fact.  But, the GOP cowards get to skate because, you know, pragmatism, no conviction.  So what?  At least it would leave a stain on Biden.

Enough stains on his Depends on a daily basis anyway.

Things like reinstating Energy Independence, and reining in costs and waste are more important.  Impeachment proceedings will only give the MSM and Big Tech fodder to successfully paint the House GOP as going for revenge.  And getting 67 Senators to convict?  Never will happen, and in fact I'll bet you will get at least 2-5 RINO senators to vote against it.

And in any case, if there is anything to be believed of late from the media, it sounds like the rank and file are about to jettison Biden anyway.  We'd actually be doing them 2 favors, and helping the likes of Moochelle or Newsome.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2023, 03:14:59 pm »

So, the choices are these:  (i) impeach Biden and suffer an acquittal - Biden is vindicated and his re-election chances, and the election chances of democrats generally, go up

So many forget how the Slick Willie's impeachment worked to his advantage in '96.  The MSM had him looking like a victim in the eyes of the electorate by the end of the election.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2023, 03:16:54 pm »
Enough stains on his Depends on a daily basis anyway.

Things like reinstating Energy Independence, and reining in costs and waste are more important.  Impeachment proceedings will only give the MSM and Big Tech fodder to successfully paint the House GOP as going for revenge.  And getting 67 Senators to convict?  Never will happen, and in fact I'll bet you will get at least 2-5 RINO senators to vote against it.

And in any case, if there is anything to be believed of late from the media, it sounds like the rank and file are about to jettison Biden anyway.  We'd actually be doing them 2 favors, and helping the likes of Moochelle or Newsome.

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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 03:17:04 pm »
It's not just that there will never be a conviction in the Senate.  It's that the acquittal will play straight into the hands of the MSM and the other left-wing agit-prop outfits pimping for Biden and the democrats.  Americans would be deluged with the narrative that the acquittal represents a complete vindication of Biden, not just that it represents the depths of political partisanship in Congress.

And more strategically:  what happens if, mirabile dictu, there is a conviction?  Biden is removed, Harris becomes president, and the democrats then have the votes to put into the VP office one of their hard-left members, someone who could never in a million years get elected to office.  From there it's a short hop, skip, and a jump to, say, President Newsom of California.

So, the choices are these:  (i) impeach Biden and suffer an acquittal - Biden is vindicated and his re-election chances, and the election chances of democrats generally, go up, or (ii) impeach Biden and win a conviction - Gavin Newsom, or some other noisesome hard-left prog/lib, becomes VP and, in short order, president.

Yeah, I'd prefer not to start up that road in the first place.

Sorry but NO SALE!  IMHO an impeachment trial is the ONLY sure fire way to get the FACTS before the people and we should not shy away from doing that whenever warranted.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 03:19:22 pm »
Sorry but NO SALE!  IMHO an impeachment trial is the ONLY sure fire way to get the FACTS before the people and we should not shy away from doing that whenever warranted.

Yeah, because the impeachments of President Trump got all of the facts before the people.  Right.

How do you think those facts would get before the people?  Will the average Jane or Joe America stand around in groups reading the transcripts of the hearing, or will they simply swallow the MSM's presentation of those hearings on the evening news, with all of the leftist spin that entails?

An impeachment under these circumstances would simply work to Biden's benefit.  Do we really want to improve his re-election chances in 2024?
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2023, 03:23:46 pm »
Sorry but NO SALE!  IMHO an impeachment trial is the ONLY sure fire way to get the FACTS before the people and we should not shy away from doing that whenever warranted.

Since when has the MSM provided "the FACTS"?  By the end of the House impeachment proceedings they'll have Pedo Joe with a blended Moniker of these two with Jimmy Stewart and Bill Pullman....



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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2023, 03:26:04 pm »
Since when has the MSM provided "the FACTS"?  By the end of the House impeachment proceedings they'll have Pedo Joe with a blended Moniker of these two with Jimmy Stewart and Bill Pullman....





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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2023, 03:26:52 pm »
Since when has the MSM provided "the FACTS"?  By the end of the House impeachment proceedings they'll have Pedo Joe with a blended Moniker of these two with Jimmy Stewart and Bill Pullman....





CSPAN at least and likely others will carry the proceedings live.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2023, 03:27:16 pm »
Yeah, because the impeachments of President Trump got all of the facts before the people.  Right.

How do you think those facts would get before the people?  Will the average Jane or Joe America stand around in groups reading the transcripts of the hearing, or will they simply swallow the MSM's presentation of those hearings on the evening news, with all of the leftist spin that entails?

An impeachment under these circumstances would simply work to Biden's benefit.  Do we really want to improve his re-election chances in 2024?

My favorite example are how the MSM reported the COVID stats...   For 2 years the Evening news blasted the headline and graphics...  XXXXX More Dead in Trump's Pandemic.  Then after the '20 elections?  Poof...  gone

If Impeachment proceedings are stated, those same headlines and graphics will read...  President Biden.....  Held Hostage by GOP House Day 50!!!!!!

The MSM have mastered the process of brainwashing the Sheeple. 
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2023, 03:29:30 pm »
It's not just that there will never be a conviction in the Senate.  It's that the acquittal will play straight into the hands of the MSM and the other left-wing agit-prop outfits pimping for Biden and the democrats.  Americans would be deluged with the narrative that the acquittal represents a complete vindication of Biden, not just that it represents the depths of political partisanship in Congress.

And more strategically:  what happens if, mirabile dictu, there is a conviction?  Biden is removed, Harris becomes president, and the democrats then have the votes to put into the VP office one of their hard-left members, someone who could never in a million years get elected to office.  From there it's a short hop, skip, and a jump to, say, President Newsom of California.

So, the choices are these:  (i) impeach Biden and suffer an acquittal - Biden is vindicated and his re-election chances, and the election chances of democrats generally, go up, or (ii) impeach Biden and win a conviction - Gavin Newsom, or some other noisesome hard-left prog/lib, becomes VP and, in short order, president.

Yeah, I'd prefer not to start up that road in the first place.

Agreed. It would be a certain losing effort, and not worth wasting time on, as opposed to figuring out how to win elections again in the current environment of ballot harvesting and corrupt, fake news reporting.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2023, 03:29:34 pm »
I don't! The house should do its job without consideration of what the senate may or may not do.

Agreed!....He will still be impeached just not convicted by the Senate....They refer to Trump as a twice impeached President....Biden has actually committed crimes warranting impeachment.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2023, 03:31:08 pm »
I don't! The house should do its job without consideration of what the senate may or may not do.

Agree!

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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2023, 03:31:35 pm »
Agreed!....He will still be impeached just not convicted by the Senate....They refer to Trump as a twice impeached President....Biden has actually committed crimes warranting impeachment.

And just how much damage did being impeached do to Clinton?
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2023, 03:31:39 pm »
CSPAN at least and likely others will carry the proceedings live.

CSPAN and Fox.  And that will be about it.   The rest will resume their regularly scheuled pramming drivel of Drew, The View, and Ellen.
While CNN and MSNBC will hold the proceedings  in a 1 inch box in the top right of the screen, and will be screaming witch hunts and lies.

We all know the routine, and the left will use it to their advantage.
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Re: Senate GOP pours cold water on idea of impeaching Biden
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2023, 03:32:42 pm »
CSPAN at least and likely others will carry the proceedings live.

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Yeah, because CSPAN always gets higher ratings than, say, Dancing With The Stars, or Real Housewifes of Peoria.
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